[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Dude, I am feeling better as of Thurs or so. Had normal energy, so I lifted yesterday. Had a 30 min session…all 15 reps sets with little rest. First training in 2 weeks.
Also, started 100 CJC and 100 GHRP 6 yesterday before dinner time. Then again last night pre bed, and at wake this morning. Excited to see the two work together !
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Glad to hear you’re on the mend; I think the rest will definitely do you more good than anything else.
0730: walked dog and drank protein shake.
had another shake about 1000, maybe another at some point before training but I can’t remember
1400 four kit kat chunky’s and 2 sugar free red bulls pre workout
CHEST AND ARMS:
Incline BP: 50 x10, x10 60 x5, 70 x5, x5, x5, x6, x3 80 x5, x3
face pull x25 x25 x25
OH band ext x15, x15, x15
Hammer curl: x15, x15, x10
band crunch x20 x20
Started CJC GHRP6 combo Friday, reconst. a new vial of each to start it. Sat AM, DROPPED my vial of GHRP 6 on the tile floor in the bathroom, and the bottom broke out of it !!! Called my buddy who works for the co., and met him at the mall and he gave me a new one…and bought my daughters a cookie too !!!
Wonder why the CJC comes 2 mg in a vial, and the GHRP comes 5 mg? After just about three days of 3 x per day doses, I am noticing my hands are a little puffy…just a little. Got that from the GHRP 6 back a few months when I started. Good dreams too…and noticing my little fingers are tingling just a little bit. I have read several places that tingling in the little fingers is a sign that GH is working. I got it months ago when I started the GHRP…coming back again. All strong signs.
Friday, I did chest, Tri’s and even Bi’s. (Did Bi’s just to see if my elbows would hurt, and they didn’t. Mostly cause I only did some Cable Curls, like 4 x 18-20…used other hand to cup my working arm elbow, keep the arm from moving to the side at all…perfect form…and it doesn’t hurt…thinking I can just stay on 20 rep sets for a long while, if that’s what it takes, I still did it heavy enough to get sore the next day…)
For chest Friday, did Incline Bench Dumbells…did 4 sets of 20 beings it has been 2 weeks since I lifted.
First set 65’s, then 70, 75, and 80’s for the last set. For Triceps, did Cable Pushdowns, 4 x 20’s, and close grip Incline Pushups on a Bar…) Good workout, and no tendonitis pain.
That’s good going TX. I’m positive my RP-2 is actually RP-6, the hunger things is severe. I feel like it’s bloated me a little (GF says I’ve put alittle weight on my face, which I hate), but my body is the same, which is great because I’m up to 231LB’s for the first time since I was ill. I really don’t think I’ve put any fat on either because when I’m carb-less I do look just as lean as I was.
I’ve ordered 2 new RP-2’s from a different supplier on ebay, I hope they’re RP-2’s but I’m not THAT fussed either way. Mixing this shit with CJC takes it to a new level, I wouldn’t use GHRP on it’s own again…
TX: I hope the tendonitis doesn’t give you any more shit. I bet that rest did you the world of good. Have you ever done a proper cycle, or thought about one?
Hey Budda,
I have gotten that bloated look a little with GHRP 6. I see what you mean.
Question.
I am ordering more GHRP 6 and CJC… I am using CJC 1295 No DAC now, almost
gone. Then I have a vial of CJC 1295…reg with Dac to use…after that,
I am trying to decide which CJC to buy. I noticed I can get CJC 1293, 2 of them
with 2 - GHRP 6 for $ 18.95…and I know there is a reason, cause the 1293 only
lasts a few minutes. BUTTT, if I am dosing both together, 3 x day, does it really
matter how long the 1293 would stay in my system?
Or, another, which CJC 1295…Dac, or No Dac. I know one causes a continual “bleed”
and therefore stays in system a couple days…that one must be DAC. But, does that
mean that the NO Dac has to be dosed every time you dose GHRP?
Did notice that it costs about $ 12 for a vial of only 2 mg CJC 1295, and I will go
through a couple of those with each GHRP…so wondering if 1293 would work…
I know it is not as good, but wondering if GHRP WITH 1293, would be better than GHRP
alone…and if so…worth a try as it is bascially FREE with the GHRP 6.
Whaddayathink?
TX: I am NOT Mr current affairs when it comes to peptides; I did not even know there was anything other than CJC 1295, which you get as a powder and add bac water to. I usually try and read up on these things but there is SO MUCH conflicting information. Dats site is probably the best but there is a LOT to go through. I usually ask BBB about these things but I know he’s busy at the moment so I don’t want to pester him whilst he’s doing his contest prep on top of all his normal stuff.
The best advice I can give you is that CJC 1295 worked well for me, and perhaps ask that question in your GHRP thread? Or start a peptide question thread? We need a peptide sticky in the steroid forum really…
Thanks. I put it on my thread too…
Legs today at the commercial gym, much too cold to train in my shed/home gym (although I would have it I really had, and have done) I prefer to train legs at home as I have my bars but I’m enjoying the variation.
I got interrupted though by another kid asking for help squatting (whilst I was squatting) so It really broke things up, although I was happy to help.
Front squats: 60 x8 x5 70 x3 x5 80 x5 90 x5 -got interrupted after this set-
slanted calf raise: 40 x20, 70 x10, 100 x10 x10 70 x15 x10 x10
leg press: I HATE leg presses and smith machines, I only use them as a last resort for calves but this HS copy is not too bad for pumping, and is a good BB exercise for the quads. 80 x20 x10 drop set 120 x15, 80 x25 no lock out 80 x20 quads nicely sore around the knee
hyper ext x20 x20 x20 x10 x10 x10 x10
standing cable crunch x10 x15 x15 x15
Upper body in home gym:
Just tried benching again after wrist was hurting
Speed bench (flat with chains) 50Kg x10 x10 x10 (warm-up, no chains)
50kg plus 30kg chains each side 10 sets of 2-3 -felt faster towards the last few sets, these are totally new to me but didn’t feel too taxing until I moved onto the next exercise…
steep incline barbell bench- 60kg x10, 70 x5, 80 x5 x5, 70 x6 HARD!
overhead band triceps ext x10, x10, x15, x15, x10
hammer curl triceps bar x15, x15, x17, x15
rear delts x10, x18 x15
I posted in my GHRP thread, I think I am finally seeing something worthwhile from the GHRP 6 and CJC 1295 combo.
Legs and back:
I was in the commercial gm and got sidetracked AGAIN when some young guy asked me to spot him. I’m leaving this gym I think and going back to training at home again. I think I’m paid up until the end of March, but I’m making the most of the equipment and stuff.
I wanted to do a finisher like timed squats or something but it was too busy so I just got the fuck out.
Slanted calves: 70 x15, x15
front squat onto 16 inch box: 60 x5, x5, 70 x5, 80 x5, 90 x5, 100x5, 110 x3 (abs straining like fuck!)
Conventional DL off of one plate (so slightly raised, like 2 inches) this is where I got interrupted, once moving back so a guy could use the squat rack, then again to spot for someone.
60 x5, 80 x3, 100 x3, 120 x3, 140 x5 (mixed grip from now on) 160 x3, 180 x3, 200 x1 I definitely had more in me but didn’t want to strain too much; plus, seeing as I sumo DL’ed 200KG off of the floor last week I 'spose this is actually quite conservative.
calf raise on leg press x20 x15 x12 x10 (like 30 second max rest between sets
leg ext x15 x12 x12 x12
Slept badly Friday night and was busy all day; drunk a couple of bottles of wine saturday night at a small social gathering which wasn’t much fun and slept poorly again on Saturday night. Felt like shit all day Sunday, more from sleep deprivation than alcohol consumption.
I wouldn’t normally train Monday evening after work but needs must as I had the weekend off and needs must. The following workout was done very quickly with short rest periods.
Flat bench with chains:
warm-up no chains: 60 x6, x8, x10
plus 30kg chains each side: 60 x3, 70 x3, 80 x1, 70 x5, x5
1 board press: 60 x5, 80 x3, 100 x3, 90 x5, x5, x3
flat bench close press (SS with triceps ext) 60 x10, 60 x10
OH band ext x16 x12 x15 x20
hammer curls: x15, x17 x10
rear delts x15 x15
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
Legs and back:
I was in the commercial gm and got sidetracked AGAIN when some young guy asked me to spot him. I’m leaving this gym I think and going back to training at home again. I think I’m paid up until the end of March, but I’m making the most of the equipment and stuff.
I wanted to do a finisher like timed squats or something but it was too busy so I just got the fuck out.
Slanted calves: 70 x15, x15
front squat onto 16 inch box: 60 x5, x5, 70 x5, 80 x5, 90 x5, 100x5, 110 x3 (abs straining like fuck!)
Conventional DL off of one plate (so slightly raised, like 2 inches) this is where I got interrupted, once moving back so a guy could use the squat rack, then again to spot for someone.
60 x5, 80 x3, 100 x3, 120 x3, 140 x5 (mixed grip from now on) 160 x3, 180 x3, 200 x1 I definitely had more in me but didn’t want to strain too much; plus, seeing as I sumo DL’ed 200KG off of the floor last week I 'spose this is actually quite conservative.
calf raise on leg press x20 x15 x12 x10 (like 30 second max rest between sets
leg ext x15 x12 x12 x12
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Dude, I feel for you. Suggest you wear a black hoodie to gym, with it pulled up over your head. And put headphones in loud. Ignore anyone who asks you to spot who isn’t bigger than you are ! 
BB,
Gonna do chest today. I saw this cool bench excercise where a guy has a flat bench in the middle between the two cables. He attaches the wrist/ankle collar to the cables, puts them on about his forearms, then grabs two Dumbells and does Flat or Incline Bench with the cables attached. Makes him pull in toward his chest as he goes up, kinda like a fly, and at the same time he is benching. Pretty cool.
I also saw this workout called Squats and Milk that I want to try. Its wayyy Old School, but it looks like it might give my elbows a break. I could sub in Cable pushdowns for the dips, and some kinda curls for the Pull ups( they kill my elbows). Super Squats 20 Rep Squat Routine
I can’t remember, but they may zap that link out. If they do, I’ll put more in there. But it is really simple, and really old school. And the diet calls for a glass of milk every single meal. I have the farm milk, love it, and would love to do that too.
Thinking I might do the chest thing today with Tri’s, and maybe Calves, then start the squat milk deal Thursday? Do that for 3-4 weeks to buy some time to find a new program.
Glad to see you’re back in the gym making progress, brother. Where’s your weight at right now??
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Glad to see you’re back in the gym making progress, brother. Where’s your weight at right now?? [/quote]
Thanks Spidey, last weighed myself about a week ago and was 231LB, about an all time high, but at my strongest all time too, and possibly leanest. I’ll get a pic up after tomorrows workout to measure progress. I saw a good friend the other day and he said I looked the biggest he’s ever seen me, though I was pumped up my arms are starting to get bigger so that may have had something to do with it.
LOWER BODY: Conventional DL: warm-up: 60 x10, 80 x10
Purple bands + 80 x3, x3, x3, x2, x2
blue bands +80 x2 (hard) x3, x3, x3
These ‘proper’ WS bands are good. I’m noticing the difference when I get my traps involved proper, how much smoother the bar goes and how much higher when the technique is spot on. These took a lot out of me.
Front squat down to 12" box (hard, gonna regulate depth with a box all the time now for consistency
60 x5, 70 x5, 80 x5, 90 x5, 100 x3, x4, x3, x3
belt squat 70 x10… FINISHED!.. Nothing left…
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BB,
Gonna do chest today. I saw this cool bench excercise where a guy has a flat bench in the middle between the two cables. He attaches the wrist/ankle collar to the cables, puts them on about his forearms, then grabs two Dumbells and does Flat or Incline Bench with the cables attached. Makes him pull in toward his chest as he goes up, kinda like a fly, and at the same time he is benching. Pretty cool.
I also saw this workout called Squats and Milk that I want to try. Its wayyy Old School, but it looks like it might give my elbows a break. I could sub in Cable pushdowns for the dips, and some kinda curls for the Pull ups( they kill my elbows). Super Squats 20 Rep Squat Routine
I can’t remember, but they may zap that link out. If they do, I’ll put more in there. But it is really simple, and really old school. And the diet calls for a glass of milk every single meal. I have the farm milk, love it, and would love to do that too.
Thinking I might do the chest thing today with Tri’s, and maybe Calves, then start the squat milk deal Thursday? Do that for 3-4 weeks to buy some time to find a new program.
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If you want big strong legs with no strain on the elbows then a safety squat bar is the way to go my friend. I’ve done a few of those 20 rep old school programs, I used to do them when I was starting out before I got on the 'roids… They DO work.
The most effective thing I find though TX is the change of pace, maybe specialize on your legs a bit to rest your elbows? At our height you can’t really overdevelop your legs, and your upper body is pretty decent, along with your pressing strength; and there is no point fucking yourself up and depriving yourself of pain-free living.
I’m not sure if I told you or not but when I had RSI my recovery was greatly aided by (apart from those foam roller exercises BBB prescribed me) was this infa red treatment applied with a handheld device, it’s quite painful but it is effective and the difference is noticeable in a couple of weeks. The ‘rays’ (for want of a better expression) penetrate through the skin and break up the scar tissue. It sounds like you have exhausted all the other options and would benefit from this kind of therapy.
I had to train around a fucked up lower back for years, which then got re fucked up in a really serious car accident (which is why my DL is far behind where it could be, it’s the only lift I’m suited to) so I know how frustrating injuries can be, but stay positive and use this as an opportunity to specialize on your legs of calves or a body part you can train and would like to develop.
Good luck, please keep me informed
Upper body: I feel knackered after this workout but managed to jack my insulin sensitivity right up before hand which is probably why it went quite well.
incline BP bar x35, 50 x10, 60 x5, 70 x5, 80 x5, 90 x3 x3 x3 x3 x3 (new PR’s)
Pull up machine HS 40 x15, 60 x12, 80 x11, 100 x8 thirty seconds rest then 80 x10, 80 x12 x12
slanted calf 70 x15, x12, x10, 90 x12, x10 x10, 50 x20 - ouch!
wide chest press machine 50 x12, 70 x10, 80 x12, 100 x8, x10
seated shoulder DB press 20kg x10, x12, x10 x6
EZ bar curls x10 x10 x11 x8
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
BB,
Gonna do chest today. I saw this cool bench excercise where a guy has a flat bench in the middle between the two cables. He attaches the wrist/ankle collar to the cables, puts them on about his forearms, then grabs two Dumbells and does Flat or Incline Bench with the cables attached. Makes him pull in toward his chest as he goes up, kinda like a fly, and at the same time he is benching. Pretty cool.
I also saw this workout called Squats and Milk that I want to try. Its wayyy Old School, but it looks like it might give my elbows a break. I could sub in Cable pushdowns for the dips, and some kinda curls for the Pull ups( they kill my elbows). Super Squats 20 Rep Squat Routine
I can’t remember, but they may zap that link out. If they do, I’ll put more in there. But it is really simple, and really old school. And the diet calls for a glass of milk every single meal. I have the farm milk, love it, and would love to do that too.
Thinking I might do the chest thing today with Tri’s, and maybe Calves, then start the squat milk deal Thursday? Do that for 3-4 weeks to buy some time to find a new program.
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If you want big strong legs with no strain on the elbows then a safety squat bar is the way to go my friend. I’ve done a few of those 20 rep old school programs, I used to do them when I was starting out before I got on the 'roids… They DO work.
The most effective thing I find though TX is the change of pace, maybe specialize on your legs a bit to rest your elbows? At our height you can’t really overdevelop your legs, and your upper body is pretty decent, along with your pressing strength; and there is no point fucking yourself up and depriving yourself of pain-free living.
I’m not sure if I told you or not but when I had RSI my recovery was greatly aided by (apart from those foam roller exercises BBB prescribed me) was this infa red treatment applied with a handheld device, it’s quite painful but it is effective and the difference is noticeable in a couple of weeks. The ‘rays’ (for want of a better expression) penetrate through the skin and break up the scar tissue. It sounds like you have exhausted all the other options and would benefit from this kind of therapy.
I had to train around a fucked up lower back for years, which then got re fucked up in a really serious car accident (which is why my DL is far behind where it could be, it’s the only lift I’m suited to) so I know how frustrating injuries can be, but stay positive and use this as an opportunity to specialize on your legs of calves or a body part you can train and would like to develop.
Good luck, please keep me informed
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I love that quote, “At your height, you can’t really overdevelop your legs…” Cracks me up. Serious TRUTH brother. I work them hard, and they are slow twitch, long muscle, and they do NOT bulk up like some guys !!! You are right on with that statement !!! LOL
You know how much I love milk, and we get Cow’s milk from the farm…think I am gonna try and get 4 gallons this week. I have been drinking a glass of milk every meal when I am home, and I hope it will do some good. Makes sense, it should.
The problem is…here’s an example… I started Tuesday morning up in my attic installing a Furnace Humidifier. Ended up taking about 8 hours over two days. Up and down the attic stairs probably 30 times, put in new duct work, etc, etc. In those 2.5 days, I lost 6 pounds !!!
I ate and ate every time I could…but with a deal like that it ends up acting like 8 hours of cardio with my system.
Liking my CJC and GHRP 6 combo. My muscles are looking bigger !!!
TX, what that should have said was, ‘At OUR height, we can’t really overdevelop our legs’ LOL. As far as legs go I cannot recommend bet squats enough to tall people, one of the biggest benefits is the reduced recovery time, as there is no strain on the CNS as the spine isn’t loaded, plus you can truly work until the legs are fatigued with no concern for lower back health. I’m just suggesting these as you mentioned that your upper body training may well be limited now by your elbow tendonitis.
Perhaps eat two chocolate bars before doing anything physically strenuous? This should protect against weight loss (though a fair portion of that six pounds may well have been water) and provide you with some extra energy for your work.