TXH that is very interesting about the ghrp. You had that good of results? How long did you run it before you saw the fat buring results? Did your joints do well healing better and feeling better? budda have you had the same experience?
Glad to see your hitting it hard in the gym again brother. Keep it up.
I was curious as too if yo have ever tried benching in the style CT advocates? I use to flat bench, especially for pec development, but after adopting his style, and emphasizing explosiveness, I get a solid chest pump from it.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Budda, speaking of sickness, which we have talked about at length here…dig this quality timing that just happened. Two girls, one 9, the other 8. Goint to Disneyworld a week from today. Can not move trip, it is planned… thats a hint… 
Three weeks ago, both girls caught Strep at school for the second time in 6 months. Both started Antiobiotics, and kicked it in 8 days or so. About the 15th day, my thin, tall 9 year old’s sinuses, tonsils and glands all puff up. We go to Doc last Tuesday, approx. 11 days pre vacation. She has Mono, which 50 % of the time happens right after Strep.
NOTHING can be done for it, cept rest, liquids, etc, etc. We googled the shit out of it, and started her on a sequence of about ten things in a row that she takes, all natural supps, twice a day. She has literally gotten a little better every single day. And she has never exhibited the horrible tired part of it.
Olive Leaf Extract in a capsule, Coconut Oil, protein, Choloidal Silver, Green (veggie) powder, ALLLL Natty, Natty, Natty stuff…and Cows milk, actually, Farmer Albert just had a cow give birth, so he sold me two half gallons of Collostrum Cows Milk. They drink that twice a day. Sounds utterly GROSS, but its just creamy milk. And FULLLLL of stinking good stuff that makes Calves grow fast to keep up with the herd.
It’s working !!! I don’t know if Mono gets over there much, but it is the most depressing sickness,
that usually lasts a couple months, minimum. We will have it gone in a week at this pace.
And you can bet Mom and Dad are taking some of the stuff too…to keep from getting sick before the trip.[/quote]
TX: I’ve ordered some Cal-mag and zinc and vitamin C (1 gram tabs) to help me sleep. I didn’t sleep too badly last night thanks. I’m a creature of habit and my routine has been all over the place the last 7 days. I always try and go to bed early but I’ve had a few late nights with my GF (I picked her up last night and got head driving home through London) didn’t get to sleep until about 0230 which is late for me. This just throws me off but I’ll try and improve things next week. I hopefully wont be ill again for a while but I’ll pass on that info to my GF and I’ll be sure to try that should the need unfortunately arise again.
Just top clarify: Olive leaf extract, coconut oil, protein, Choloidal silver, green veggie powder, ALL ORGANIC and top quality cows milk? Administered twice a day?
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm… I’m listenin… Combining the GHRP 2 and CJC, what is the expected outcome?
[/quote]
I’ve not tried this yet, CJC is supposed to compound the effects of the RP-2, so I’m hoping for sleep benefits and some increased fat loss whilst trying to gain muscle. The stuff is dirt cheap so I figured it must be worth a try. I’m basically expecting fat loss from the RP-2, and expecting it to be accelerated by the CJC.
What are your thoughts?
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Glad to see your hitting it hard in the gym again brother. Keep it up.
I was curious as too if yo have ever tried benching in the style CT advocates? I use to flat bench, especially for pec development, but after adopting his style, and emphasizing explosiveness, I get a solid chest pump from it.[/quote]
Spidey, I’ve not seen it. When I do bench I endeavor to bench the way LS advises in the video I posted. What do you think? I’m all ears as I see you are quite strong on the bench from reading your log.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
TX: I’ve ordered some Cal-mag and zinc and vitamin C (1 gram tabs) to help me sleep. I didn’t sleep too badly last night thanks. I’m a creature of habit and my routine has been all over the place the last 7 days. I always try and go to bed early but I’ve had a few late nights with my GF (I picked her up last night and got head driving home through London) didn’t get to sleep until about 0230 which is late for me. This just throws me off but I’ll try and improve things next week. I hopefully wont be ill again for a while but I’ll pass on that info to my GF and I’ll be sure to try that should the need unfortunately arise again.
Just top clarify: Olive leaf extract, coconut oil, protein, Choloidal silver, green veggie powder, ALL ORGANIC and top quality cows milk? Administered twice a day?
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Yessir, I think that is it ! I have been loving the addition of Cows milk for the last few months…it has good fat in it for me, and I burn it pretty well. Plus all the other good stuff. The Collostrum is another step. That is the first milk that comes thru the cows tits after she gives birth. It is full of all kinds of good stuff, to make little calfs grow fast and “keep up with the heard moving.”
For the girls, and the Mono, your list is right. You can get all of it at a natural health store. And if you stop and look up each one, they are all very good stuff for you, especially for fighting colds, Mono, viruses…Olive Leaf Ext is supposed to be a natural Antibiotic. The Silver is supposed to be able to kill a cold when it is just getting started. Etc, etc…
I can verify too, it is working well. The rate we are going, the swollen glands, swollen tonsils, puffy sinuses will all be completely gone in a weeks time. My daughter looks wonderful since we started, getting better every single day. You can see it. Her glands around her neck are not swollen any more…been only 4 days. And I know you all can get Cows milk at the store, can’t you?
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm… I’m listenin… Combining the GHRP 2 and CJC, what is the expected outcome?
[/quote]
I’ve not tried this yet, CJC is supposed to compound the effects of the RP-2, so I’m hoping for sleep benefits and some increased fat loss whilst trying to gain muscle. The stuff is dirt cheap so I figured it must be worth a try. I’m basically expecting fat loss from the RP-2, and expecting it to be accelerated by the CJC.
What are your thoughts?[/quote]
I read and read yesterday about CJC 1295 (no DAC) and it in combination with GHRP 6 and 2. LURX I think was suprised I was not using CJC with GHRP…gonna throw him a P M on it. We are on vacation soon, but when I get back, gonna start some CJC to use with the CJC.
My question is (and I love how cheap they both are) can you dose like 300 mcg a couple times a week of the CJC, and then keep doing the 3 x day with the GHRP? I know some guys do 100 mcg each time they do GHRP, but I also read that the CJC stays in your system for a few days… Read where one 42 year old was doing a total of 700-900 a week of CJC (with his GHRP) but only doing it in three total doses…like every other day… There is something about the CJC and that you can do it less often, cause it stays in your system.
Def. supposed to make your pulses better and longer with the GHRP if you use CJC and get it into your system. I know GHRP stays in your system only 8-10 minutes…but I have read the CJC keeps it working for over an hour, AND magnifies the pulse.
But DEFINITELY, try the GHRP for sleep. YOu will like it.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]Spidey22 wrote:
Glad to see your hitting it hard in the gym again brother. Keep it up.
I was curious as too if yo have ever tried benching in the style CT advocates? I use to flat bench, especially for pec development, but after adopting his style, and emphasizing explosiveness, I get a solid chest pump from it.[/quote]
Spidey, I’ve not seen it. When I do bench I endeavor to bench the way LS advises in the video I posted. What do you think? I’m all ears as I see you are quite strong on the bench from reading your log.[/quote]
Here’s the video of how CT recommends raw lifters bench:
I bring my feet a bit more ‘behind’ my knees then he advocates, but other then that, I really like it. As long as I bench this way, with focus on making the reps explosive (no ‘grinders’), I get a pretty solid chest pump.
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm… I’m listenin… Combining the GHRP 2 and CJC, what is the expected outcome?
[/quote]
I’ve not tried this yet, CJC is supposed to compound the effects of the RP-2, so I’m hoping for sleep benefits and some increased fat loss whilst trying to gain muscle. The stuff is dirt cheap so I figured it must be worth a try. I’m basically expecting fat loss from the RP-2, and expecting it to be accelerated by the CJC.
What are your thoughts?[/quote]
I read and read yesterday about CJC 1295 (no DAC) and it in combination with GHRP 6 and 2. LURX I think was suprised I was not using CJC with GHRP…gonna throw him a P M on it. We are on vacation soon, but when I get back, gonna start some CJC to use with the CJC.
My question is (and I love how cheap they both are) can you dose like 300 mcg a couple times a week of the CJC, and then keep doing the 3 x day with the GHRP? I know some guys do 100 mcg each time they do GHRP, but I also read that the CJC stays in your system for a few days… Read where one 42 year old was doing a total of 700-900 a week of CJC (with his GHRP) but only doing it in three total doses…like every other day… There is something about the CJC and that you can do it less often, cause it stays in your system.
Def. supposed to make your pulses better and longer with the GHRP if you use CJC and get it into your system. I know GHRP stays in your system only 8-10 minutes…but I have read the CJC keeps it working for over an hour, AND magnifies the pulse.
But DEFINITELY, try the GHRP for sleep. YOu will like it.[/quote]
TX: I think it was MODOK (who posts regularly in your thread) said there seems to be (don’t quote me on this) no increased effect beyond 300Mcg GHRP: CJC. I am NOT up to date on peptides so cannot really advise but I am going to use GHRP (1&2 separately) with CJC as soon as my CJC arrives so I will let you know how I get on, I’ll prolly just log here.
Spidey: Thanks I will try this and let you know how I get on.
LEGS AND BACK:
Conventional DL (in converse) with chains: 60x10, x4 (warm-up no chains yet)
+30kg chains L&R: 80 x3 x3, 90x3, x3, x2, x3, x6, x3
The chains are a new stimulus to me and I tried to be fast and explosive like with the bands to beat the stretch reflex but I still felt slow. I felt like I’d done some work after though and my lower back was sore in a good way, similar to the good morning.
Safety bar squat in olympic weight lifting shoes with chains: warm up 60x5 no chains
+30kg chains L&R 60 x3, 80 x5 x5,90x3, 100x3 (hard but easier than I expected, haven’t done these for a while) 100x3 (hard) 100x3 (hard and slow)
Dips 10x5 (I was going to do calves but they’re still a bit sore and I wanted to decompress my spine a bit)
Belt squat: 60 x10 x10 x10 80 x6 x6
I feel crushed now those chains literally are heavy duty. I think I’ll alternate 3 week cycles with chains and bands to vary the stimuli.
I had 2 snickers pre workout but I had a hot chocolate earlier and fucked up my insulin sensitivity so I’m a bit soft, I’ll get a new progress pic up soon as its been over a month now.
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
[quote]txhawkeyes wrote:
Hmmmmmm… I’m listenin… Combining the GHRP 2 and CJC, what is the expected outcome?
[/quote]
I’ve not tried this yet, CJC is supposed to compound the effects of the RP-2, so I’m hoping for sleep benefits and some increased fat loss whilst trying to gain muscle. The stuff is dirt cheap so I figured it must be worth a try. I’m basically expecting fat loss from the RP-2, and expecting it to be accelerated by the CJC.
What are your thoughts?[/quote]
I read and read yesterday about CJC 1295 (no DAC) and it in combination with GHRP 6 and 2. LURX I think was suprised I was not using CJC with GHRP…gonna throw him a P M on it. We are on vacation soon, but when I get back, gonna start some CJC to use with the CJC.
My question is (and I love how cheap they both are) can you dose like 300 mcg a couple times a week of the CJC, and then keep doing the 3 x day with the GHRP? I know some guys do 100 mcg each time they do GHRP, but I also read that the CJC stays in your system for a few days… Read where one 42 year old was doing a total of 700-900 a week of CJC (with his GHRP) but only doing it in three total doses…like every other day… There is something about the CJC and that you can do it less often, cause it stays in your system.
Def. supposed to make your pulses better and longer with the GHRP if you use CJC and get it into your system. I know GHRP stays in your system only 8-10 minutes…but I have read the CJC keeps it working for over an hour, AND magnifies the pulse.
But DEFINITELY, try the GHRP for sleep. YOu will like it.[/quote]
TX: I think it was MODOK (who posts regularly in your thread) said there seems to be (don’t quote me on this) no increased effect beyond 300Mcg GHRP: CJC. I am NOT up to date on peptides so cannot really advise but I am going to use GHRP (1&2 separately) with CJC as soon as my CJC arrives so I will let you know how I get on, I’ll prolly just log here.[/quote]
I’ll be interested to see how often you use the CJC…cause the GHRP has to be used 2-3 times a day…but have read you can either piggyback the CJC with it, or use the CJC periodically during the week.
I’ve read conflicting information on CJC use. I’m gonna fish around and see what answers/info I get. I’m sure I asked in your thread TX and MODOK advised me. I’ll let you know when I make a decision my friend.
TX, this is a copy and paste from your thread, you wont sue for copy-write will you?
BUDDABOY wrote:
Thanks guys, I’m definitely picking up what you’re putting down.
At the risk of sounding stupid here: If CJC doubles the effectiveness of GHRP-6 i.e 100mcg CJC makes 100mcg GHRP-6 twice as effective, will it be MORE effective than just doubling the GHRP-6 dose? Am I making sense? My understanding is that CJC amplifies the results of GHRP-6; or is a case where when you have reached saturation point with GHRP-6, adding the CJC will take you further by amplifying the results past your bodies capacity for utilization without it (CJC)? Or is it the synergistic effect of combining the two which is desirable?
I hope this makes sense…
LURXALOT REPLIED:
"It is well documented and established that the concurrent administration of Growth Hormone Releasing Hormone (GHRH) and a Growth Hormone Releasing Peptide (GHRP-6, GHRP-2 or Hexarelin) results in synergistic release of GH from pituitary stores.
In other words if GHRH contributes a GH amount quantified as the number 2 and GHRPs contributed a GH amount quantified as the number 4 the total GH release is not additive (i.e. 2 4 = 6). Rather the whole is greater than the sum of the parts such that 2 4 = 10."
-DatBtru
im not sure if Dat would not like me posting this or the citing is incorrect but some one let me know if so and i will change it…
LURXALOT:
for a 100kg male (220 lbs i believe) 100mcg of each is saturation BUT say bumping up to 200mcg each may increase the effectiveness by ~50% (just an example) and increasing again to 300mcg may increase by another ~25% (another example) but 400mcg may not cause any more response than 300mg
Cool. I have looked at Dat’s long article and threads on it…
In the end, he says point blank, that you can dose CJC 2-3 times a week, and it stays in your system.
THEN, he says right after that, that in his opinion that you get a def. benefit of combining 100 CJC with
every dose of GHRP 6 too…
I am thinking I will dose both every morning, together…but then the after noon and pre bed doses will be just GHRP 6. I think I will get some benefit from this type a deal…enough to see if the GHRP 6 really
does something for me. I am on the fence right now on it…the only thing I have proven is that the
GHRP helps me sleep better. More concentrated sleep, that goes through all the sleep stages including REM, to give me “complete” sleep cycle(s). That I can verify. And that is why I am taking it on vacation for the pre bed dose, cause I don’t sleep well in hotels.
If it only gives me a sleep benefit then I’m happy
UPPER BODY
jacked insulin sensitivity right up this morning and had loads of caffeine upon waking, rushed to a quick meeting then came back hungry, ate three chocolate bars and hit my commercial gym.
Started on the Hammer strength shoulder press doing sets of 10-12, doing sets of standing cable crunches between sets; incline bench press up to 80kg x 6 (I think, quite easy but made harder by compressed rest periods) with slanted calf raises between sets; bicep curls on the EZ bar and with the OLy bar super-setted with over-head cable extensions.
I must have been doing something right because a (very pleasant-no gay) slim youngish kid came over ad started asking me how to get bigger saying he wanted bigger arms but didn’t want to get (and he put a strong emphasis on this) ‘too big’. I told him NO-ONE gets too big by accident (not entirely true, my best friend grows from sniffing steroids and just looking at weights, he’s got arms almost like holy mac and a 400LB bench and he doesn’t even train seriously, but slim kid didn’t need to know this). It was kind of strange as I haven’t trained in a commercial gym for a while, if I see him again I’ll train with him and try to help him out a bit.
My arms felt pumped to absolute fuck by the end of the session, I think they are improving from the direct work; the work capacity of my biceps has improved, it only took three sets on one exercise and they were spent, I’m now hitting them with three to four sets on two exercises.
I am almost on vacation…had been on GVT 10 x 10’s the last 10 days or so…
Went in and did a quick workout this morning. 10 sets of 10 Incline Bench with
the 75 lb Dumbells. Started something new couple weeks ago with the Track Team
I help coach…went to WalMart and bought two of those 5" x 7" … couple inch
thick sponges. Doc advised me to use more padded gloves, so I went another step.
Put the sponges in my hands, and then gripped the Dumbells to do the excercise.
I have found, it works my forearms, obviously, and my shoulders a little bit too.
And I didn’t get sore elbows after. Helps keep my grip straight too.
Gonna do Triceps and Squats tomorrow night with the H S Track team I coach, to finish
out the week. Can’t do Bench with them…they are young and it is almost impossible to
concentrate trying to herd them around. But I can jump in on Triceps, and will hammer
them with Goblet Squats.
TX: FUCK! I’ve been meaning to tell you this, luckily it’s not too late!
When you take your GHRP-6 away with you, take it in the powder form, not re constituted, do NOT let it get warm, I’ve done this twice and each time I got spots that didn’t go for like three fucking months, in the sam place on my face, it actually took them about six months to clear completely. Warm peptides are NOT good!
[quote]buddaboy wrote:
TX: FUCK! I’ve been meaning to tell you this, luckily it’s not too late!
When you take your GHRP-6 away with you, take it in the powder form, not re constituted, do NOT let it get warm, I’ve done this twice and each time I got spots that didn’t go for like three fucking months, in the sam place on my face, it actually took them about six months to clear completely. Warm peptides are NOT good![/quote]
Hey, Thanks man !!!
I have been thinking about when, or if, I was gonna break out another vial and reconstitute it… down to my last few days of the one I am on. I will pack it all, the BAC, Vial, pin to reconst it with, etc. Thanks for saying that.