Bruce Lee Today?

To quote Dana White verbatim:

“It?s a little tough for the traditional martial artists to swallow, because one system doesn?t do it. You?ve got to cross-train in many different systems. Actually, the father of mixed martial arts, if you will, was Bruce Lee. If you look at the way Bruce Lee trained, the way he fought, and many of the things he wrote, he said the perfect style was no style. You take a little something from everything. You take the good things from every different discipline, use what works, and you throw the rest away.”

One of the best posts I’ve ever read on here.

[quote]malonetd wrote:
Bruce Lee didn’t even start out doing the fight scenes in his own movies. He had a stunt double named Bot Chong, who was actually Tommy Chong’s brother. Anyway, Bot did all Bruce’s fight scenes and sex scenes. Bruce was originally really more a director than an actor.

In 1968, before any of his major American films, Bruce and Bot have a fallout because Bot had fallen in love with Bruce. Although there is supposedly a sex tape of the two on the internet, Bruce denies everything.

When Bruce started his American films and American martial art studios in the late 60’s, early 70’s, he used some styles unheard of in America at the time. One of these styles was to have the student practice explosive punches and explosive kicks on separate days, and on two other days, practice striking for strength.

Bruce had a student that mastered this technique to perfection. His name was Louie Simmons and he later began to teach similar techniques that eventually developed into what is now known as Westside training.

Once Bruce hit the height of his American popularity, he found himself amidst scandal once again. One of his former students, Stanley Williams, had a lead role in forming a major L.A. street gang. That lead to Lee developing his “Kick Out Crime” campaign.

His son remained active in anti-gang campaigning even after Bruce Lee’s death. In fact, it was Brandon Lee that negotiated the Watts peace treaty.

In 1973, Bruce Lee was at the height of his American popularity. He was also at the height of his fighting success having just defeated a heavy weight boxer, an Olympic wrestler, two street fighters, a Navy SEAL, Ric Flair, and Mean Joe Greene in a Battle Royal exhibition match. However his success wouldn’t last long. He soon died from what is now known as complications from AIDS.

Long Live Bruce Lee!![/quote]

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
Was he some kind of transcendent god of a man who could beat any mortal into submission? Come on…anyone can be touched…even Rickson/Fedor etc. But Bruce studied and trained hard to minimize his vulnerabilities and maximize his strengths. Compact punching, high speed strikes, great range and mobility, stamina unprecedented in martial arts at the time.

These days everybody studies and trains hard. And since Bruce never accomplished anything professionally it is just speculation. And how that speculation somehow comes to the conclusion that Bruce has abilities not possessed by other people I cannot understand.
Compact punching is something practiced by every person in a boxing gym for the past 100 years. Strikes are supposed to be fast.
The problem is martial arts in America. The image that was created in America made martial arts out to be something it was not. Look at karate. It is garbage in America. Poor instruction, misguided intepretation. It is a combat sport period, not some ancient mystical self help crap.
Muay Thai was around and developed when Bruce was alive. Judo, wrestling, bareknuckle karate. Japan sent a team of Karateka(Kyokushin) to Thailand in the sixties to face their champs under Muay Thai rules. The Karate-ka won. Antonio Inoki was fighting strikers in his day with grappling, that also in the early seventies. Which led to UWF, to Rings, to Shooto, than finally Pride.
These are all sports, and should be treated that way. In Japan when someone mentions Karate they most likely would think of Kyokushin Karate, full-contact. They might be able to mention Andy Hug(K-1 World GP champ and former Kyokushin Karate-ka), Francisco Filho, Feitosa, Sam Greco. If they followed the sport more closely they couild point out Pride LW champ Gomi(does karate), and if they were big fans they would mention GSP(considered a Karate-ka in Japan and also considered in Japan the Octogon’s first champ with a karate background). Face contact karate has been around for years, with gloves and without. Karate with submissions and throws and groundwork also. What do Americans think of when asked about karate(and by extension other traditional martial arts)? That is the problem.
Was Bruce Lee groundbreaking? Yes, to an extent in America’s martial arts scene.

[quote]Petedacook wrote:
To quote Dana White verbatim:

“It?s a little tough for the traditional martial artists to swallow, because one system doesn?t do it. You?ve got to cross-train in many different systems. Actually, the father of mixed martial arts, if you will, was Bruce Lee. If you look at the way Bruce Lee trained, the way he fought, and many of the things he wrote, he said the perfect style was no style. You take a little something from everything. You take the good things from every different discipline, use what works, and you throw the rest away.”[/quote]

Amen to that…What is not understood about Lee is that he could’ve given a good goddamn about competition fighting (except to study techniques being used)…All Lee cared about was surviving in actual combat (after learning a few hard lessons in streetfights), film fight setups, and teaching, all else was considered irrelevant bullshit, and rightly so IMVHO…(BTW, I saw his GungFu demo live in person, finger pushups and 1 Inch punch included, and have proof too)…(Oh and this thread?-TSB/:wink:

[quote]Donut62 wrote:
Bruce Lee sucks at good mornings.[/quote]

Shows how much you know, he actually hurt his back having sex. Yes, it’s true.

[quote]FFB4Life wrote:
anyone know if Bruce Lee ever fought Chuck Norris in real life?

that i’d like to see…[/quote]

Norris has said many times over that Lee was an amazing figher. 1 in 2 million, amazing athlete. Bruce lived for training & the martial arts. It was a way of life for him.

[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
Gotta love senseless anachronism.

What if Gengis Khan was the leader of the free world today? Do you think he’d invade Iraq? And what would his views be on stem cell research?[/quote]

Sounds like a better thread than most of the stuff in the political forum these days.

At least it is more realistic.

[quote]brucevangeorge wrote:

Bruce Lee would kick ASS. Sure he weighs as much as an average chick. (150lbs.)

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Damn son, what kind of chicks you hangin with?

[quote]Easy E wrote:
Damn son, what kind of chicks you hangin with?[/quote]

… of the same height. The dude was what 5’10ish ?

[quote]Easy E wrote:
brucevangeorge wrote:

Bruce Lee would kick ASS. Sure he weighs as much as an average chick. (150lbs.)

Damn son, what kind of chicks you hangin with?[/quote]

LMAO, yah! No kidding…DAMN!