Brotherhood of Iron 2.0

Friday�??s Chest

HS Incline:

4plates x14
4plates x12
4plates x10 (failed lockout)
4plates x9.5 (don�??t say anything dre, lol)

HS Flat:

6plates x12
6plates x9.5
6plates x9
6plates x8

Cable X Over (not flies, pushing inward at a ~45 degree angle, weight per side):

120x14
120x14
120x13
120x12

Pec-deck

130x13
130x13
130x12
130x12

*Notes: Hadn�??t used the HS machines since I was a hardcore newbie and don�??t know what it is about them but it�??s the most chest stimulation/activation I have ever felt. I think it might be the fixed ROM allows me to really concentrate on contracting the proper muscles, whatever it is I like it!

Saturday�??s Back

Oldschool T-bar Row:

6plates x11
6plates x9
6plates x9
6plates x9

Wide-grip Rack Chin:

90x18
90x16
90x14
90x13

*Note: The EZcurl bar�??s max at 90lbs at my gym (lame I know). Think I�??m going to have to figure out a solution for more weight to put in my lap�?�the reps are getting higher than I�??d like.

Seated Cable Row:

190x11
190x11
190x10
190x10

Close, neutral-grip Lat Pulldown:

180x13
180x12
180x11
180x10

Solid session Josh. No wonder your back is so fucking thick!

Just got done with legs! Fucking wrecked that bitch. Such a solid session throughout.

Monday - LEGS

Squat

135lbs x 10
185lbs x 10
225lbs x 8
275lbs x 6
315lbs x 4
385lbs x 2
wait 2 minutes
315lbs x 8 (had more in the tank)

Hack squat machine

1 pps x 10
2 pps x 10
3 pps x 8
2 pps x 30 (feet close together btw)

RDL

225lbs x 15
315lbs x 12 (slow, low)

Lying leg curl

110lbs x 10
150lbs x 6
170lbs x 4
150lbs x 8 + 5 + 2 (RP) / 40lbs x 10 (chest off the machine, better isolates hammies)

Leg extensions

150lbs x 10
230lbs x 30 (ooohohhh tight quads, literally fell off the machine onto the ground)

2 sets of DC calf raises on leg press @ 470lbs

hobble home.

Amazing. Amazing.

EDIT: by the way, when I weighed myself before the gym (post taking a shit) I was 223… so I’m thinking I’m 220 dry. So I’m fucking happy.

Thanks bug - now if only I could get everything else just as thick. haha

Deadlift
135x3
185x3
225x2
245x2
275x2
315x2
325x2
335x2
345x2
375xmiss

T-Bar Rows
2 platesx15
2 plates+25x12
2 plates+25x10

Pinwheel Curls
25’s x 12
35’s x 10

Hammer Curls
35’s x 10/10

Back day I guess.

Mid Shin Rack Deadlifts
135x5
225x3
315x3
365x3
405x2
405x1
385x3
385x1
315x5
315x5

Kroc Rows
100x13 L
100x11 R

80x20 L
80x20 R

Alternating DB curls
45x6
45x6
45x6

Notes: I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but has anyone ever tried the mid shin rack pulls, and find they can actually do LESS then a regular pull?

I havn’t done rack pulls from the knees, but from what I’ve heard you get more poundage, anyone have any experience with either position?

Been busy…on bench a couple days ago I missed 315 for the seconds session in a row. I was pissed. Setup felt solid, nothing “wrong”…so I don’t know. Westside thus far has seemed good for my deadlift (then again, low reps always have been), but squat and bench don’t seem to be moving much. I know, only been doing it for 7 weeks or so…it’s frustrating though.

As much as I love getting my deadlift higher…I really should be working on bringing up my weak points. All that to say, I’m trying to decide if I should give Nate’s program a spin, or go back to a traditional bodypart split. Decisions decisions…

Nate, if I remember correctly, you said you BUILT a lot of your strength on this kind of program?

xb nice job on the sumo pulls. I think you would’ve hit 375 if you’d only done one rep with 345. Next time, right?

Bug every time I see one of your chest/tricep sessions it makes me increasingly jealous, in case that makes you feel good. You suck.

[quote]hungry4more wrote:

xb nice job on the sumo pulls. I think you would’ve hit 375 if you’d only done one rep with 345. Next time, right?

[/quote]

I think I might just go for 350x2.
I will see how I feel though.
The weights felt heavy, but upon looking at the vids everything seemed to move fast.

I feel that when I just go all out on my deadlifts, as in shooting for a 1RM I have to take a week or more off because my back feels real banged up.

That hasn’t been that case too much so far, I’ve been doing back raises on this 45 degree hyper I got and I believe it has helped strengthen my lower back tremendously the last few weeks of using it. Plus I eat for size now and that also is helping.

I’d like to just stick with the basics, just bare bones old school type stuff. Get my big 3 up and on accesosry type stuff go to failure or as close as possible to failure.

I havn’t back squatted in over 2 months and would like to add those into the rotation of things too. I know my 300 max was with knee wraps, I don’t care if that makes it any less impressive or not, I had them so I figured I would put them to use. I will however only wear them for max attempts.

What is this program Nate has that everyone is talking about?
Someone shoot me a PM or somethin.

And my house is getting remodeled so it has been kind of stressfull the last 2 weeks. People banging on my roof at 7 in the morning.

hungry, why’s that? Cuz they’re so damn fun? Hahaha… you fucking strong motherfucker! Keep at it bro. Soon you’ll be reppin’ 315 like it’s nothin.

xb, keep hammerin away at it bud. I enjoy watching your workout clips when you post them!

Qaash, dre, jstines, keep on goin with the program. You guys are gonna be blowing your old PRs out of the water soon! I hope to try it some day.

Nate, where the fuck you been big guy?

Scott, Ceph, I’d love to see some sample workouts that you guys do. You guys are like “big brother”. Ha.

Have a good evening guys.

[quote]bugeishaAD wrote:

Scott, Ceph, I’d love to see some sample workouts that you guys do. You guys are like “big brother”. Ha.

Have a good evening guys.[/quote]

I have been thinking this a lot aswell. I’d love to see one of your guys’ sessions!

Back and Biceps

Wide grip pullups-
12/10/8

Hammerstrength pulldown-
225x10
295x10
315x8
365x6
315x7

Old school T-bar row

2 plates x 12
3 plates x 12
4 plates x 8
4 plates x 8

Underhand cable pulldown

3x10 @ 160 lbs

Hammer preacher curl-

8 reps @ 70 lbs
8 reps @ 80 lbs
6 reps @ 90 lbs
5 reps @ 90 lbs

Pinwheel curls

60 lb DB’s x 6/8/7/7

Keep up the hard work guys, we seem to be hitting a good stride right now as a group.

–JB

xb - is there a reason you use the double overhand grip on deads instead of the traditional one over, one under? it seemed like your grip gave out on the 375 pull. nice work though!

Last night’s session.

squat - 6x5 @ 265
got all 6 sets
my lower back was fried doing these, damn. I’m not looking forward to 6x6! lol

bench - 6x2 @ 230
feels lighter every week! i will be hitting 315 by the end of the year. book it.

dre, those heavy squats 2 days after deads are a test of your testicular fortitude, huh? lol I’d love to tell you the 6x6 week isn’t so bad, but I don’t want to lie to you.

5x5 wasn’t exactly a cakewalk either, but I feel really good today, getting ready to start my 4x4 week tomorrow (or tonight if I get bored with the wife being out of town).

[quote]jstines wrote:
dre, those heavy squats 2 days after deads are a test of your testicular fortitude, huh? lol I’d love to tell you the 6x6 week isn’t so bad, but I don’t want to lie to you.

5x5 wasn’t exactly a cakewalk either, but I feel really good today, getting ready to start my 4x4 week tomorrow (or tonight if I get bored with the wife being out of town). [/quote]

Does your program have you doing the heavy squats after deads? I do the heavy higher rep squats on Mondays, Wednesdays I dead and then Fridays I do the same weight for squats but only 2 reps.

dre, I think yours got mixed up.
I have heavy bench on Monday, then deads Wed, then heavy squats on Friday.

I have moved things around as far as my start day for each week, but I’m still keeping the same spacing on the days.

[quote]jstines wrote:
dre, I think yours got mixed up.
I have heavy bench on Monday, then deads Wed, then heavy squats on Friday.

I have moved things around as far as my start day for each week, but I’m still keeping the same spacing on the days. [/quote]

Maybe it’s YOURS that got mixed up! Ever think of that? Huh, did ya… lol

I was actually wondering about that from the get go. When Nate sent the program to me it was listed Friday, Wednesday, Monday. Oh well. Now we can see who makes better progress between the two of us since we are doing it differently.

[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
Back day I guess.

Mid Shin Rack Deadlifts
135x5
225x3
315x3
365x3
405x2
405x1
385x3
385x1
315x5
315x5

Kroc Rows
100x13 L
100x11 R

80x20 L
80x20 R

Alternating DB curls
45x6
45x6
45x6

Notes: I don’t know, maybe it’s just me, but has anyone ever tried the mid shin rack pulls, and find they can actually do LESS then a regular pull?

I havn’t done rack pulls from the knees, but from what I’ve heard you get more poundage, anyone have any experience with either position?[/quote]

I’d start rack pulls at knee level (or even a little above if you do 'em in the vertical smith), take the exercise to it’s strength limit (or where it becomes too dangerous to do… Like 680-750 lbs for 6-10… More if you do max-strength training with lower reps on it, though I’d consider that somewhat foolhardy… I do my 6-9 and 9-12 sets in breathing fashion as it is, so I’m lifting my 3-8 RM up to twice already as much as I could with a regular straight-set…),
then, once you’ve managed that feat, lower the pin one hole and take the exercise to it’s limit again… Repeat until you find that you’re starting too low (have fun trying to get to the last hole, it’s not possible ;D).

[quote]dre wrote:
xb - is there a reason you use the double overhand grip on deads instead of the traditional one over, one under? it seemed like your grip gave out on the 375 pull. nice work though!

Last night’s session.

squat - 6x5 @ 265
got all 6 sets
my lower back was fried doing these, damn. I’m not looking forward to 6x6! lol

bench - 6x2 @ 230
feels lighter every week! i will be hitting 315 by the end of the year. book it.[/quote]

His grip will adjust fast enough (though I’d use a pair of good straps on those sets anyway, your forearms won’t magically grow weak due to that…

If you’re pulling some weight, that is), it was me who originally suggested the dual-overhand if I remember correctly (seen far too many people tear a bicep just because the bar caught on their trousers and such).

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
(seen far too many people tear a bicep just because the bar caught on their trousers and such).
[/quote]

Who wears trousers to the gym? I mean, Dockers are comfortable and all, but the pleats just don’t fit in at the gym :wink:

[quote]jstines wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
(seen far too many people tear a bicep just because the bar caught on their trousers and such).

Who wears trousers to the gym? I mean, Dockers are comfortable and all, but the pleats just don’t fit in at the gym ;)[/quote]

Forget the who wears trousers to the gym question, who wears trousers at all? And what exactly are trousers? haha

[quote]jstines wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
(seen far too many people tear a bicep just because the bar caught on their trousers and such).

Who wears trousers to the gym? I mean, Dockers are comfortable and all, but the pleats just don’t fit in at the gym ;)[/quote]

Language barrier, sorry :wink: Wear clown pants, then :stuck_out_tongue_winking_eye:
No seriously, what do you call that, just pants?