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[quote]dre wrote:
Damn, you guys make me chuckle. Let’s see, Bug lives in Texas, Josh lives in California and you two are talking about being “hardcore” doing cardio in the “chilly” morning air. lol

I’ll give you props (I hate saying that) for doing morning cardio, but let’s cut out the hardcore talk when it comes to it being cold outside.

For New Years we went to a friend’s house and grilled out for dinner. It
was -1, I wasn’t wearing gloves. haha[/quote]

We had a huge drop in temperature overnight and even the day was damn cold.
I did my am cardio at -25 degrees (Celsius you wussies) trying to fight my way through what used to be a nicely built road uphill through a boring 3 house-settlement in rural Germany but now looks like the site of an avalanche in the alps.

I’m surprised to be honest, we haven’t had any kind of “winter” in Germany the last 8 or 10 years… (before that Germany always used to have very cold winters… Considering that we aren’t exactly situated near the poles) Now suddenly global warming’s taking some time off work or what…

You guys been slacking with your CO2 production? :wink:

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C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha

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[quote]dre wrote:
C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha[/quote]

My last post didn’t go up, hmm.

Either way, it’s -13°F.
And that’s still less than your -1°, which makes me more hardcore than you.

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[quote]dre wrote:
What is your setup like when you bench? Do you arch, drive with your legs and keep your whole body tight? Since I switched to the powerlifting style bench, my numbers have improved dramatically.

Also, the lump in your wrist could be a cyst. My friend has them in his wrists.[/quote]

I bench powerlifting style as well, but I don’t use a crazy arch, I just keep my shoulder blades pinned together and my chest out.

And yeah, after doing some research, the only thing that lump could be is a “ganglion cyst”. Good thing they’re just more of an annoyance than a problem. (And mine doesn’t even show unless I bend my wrist forward.)

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[quote]Vegg wrote:
dre wrote:
What is your setup like when you bench? Do you arch, drive with your legs and keep your whole body tight? Since I switched to the powerlifting style bench, my numbers have improved dramatically.

Also, the lump in your wrist could be a cyst. My friend has them in his wrists.

I bench powerlifting style as well, but I don’t use a crazy arch, I just keep my shoulder blades pinned together and my chest out.

And yeah, after doing some research, the only thing that lump could be is a “ganglion cyst”. Good thing they’re just more of an annoyance than a problem. (And mine doesn’t even show unless I bend my wrist forward.)[/quote]

Didn’t even see Dre’s post before, could have saved myself the trouble of asking pretty much the same stuff lol.
Interesting about that cyst business, you sure though? Can’t hurt to get it checked anyway…

So where do you stall on the bench?

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha

My last post didn’t go up, hmm.

Either way, it’s -13°F.
And that’s still less than your -1°, which makes me more hardcore than you.

[/quote]

I wasn’t questioning your hardcoreness, I was just pointing out that you could have seemed even more hardcore. Or something like that. Either way, that’s f*ckin’ cold.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.
[/quote]

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever.

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[quote]dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha

My last post didn’t go up, hmm.

Either way, it’s -13°F.
And that’s still less than your -1°, which makes me more hardcore than you.

I wasn’t questioning your hardcoreness, I was just pointing out that you could have seemed even more hardcore. [/quote] I would never resort to such tactics. You sneaky little American… Besides, nothing’s more hardcore than a hamster doing fasted morning cardio outside of his hamster-wheel at -25 degrees. That doesn’t need exaggeration. ;D

:wink:

We used to get -40°C at times if I remember correctly. Not in recent years though… Kind of weird… As kids we used to play Ice-Hockey on the various frozen rivers, “lakes”, etc… In the last decade or so, the water hardly even froze in winter. If I were a kid these days I guess I’d have to make due with inline-skates…

Not that any of the kids here in this day and age do anything physical other than playing some lame-ass soccer every now and again, mind you (on the WII wobble-board lol).

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[quote]Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever. [/quote]

Erm, ok. Why do you care about your 1RM?
And if you wonder why you can’t do more for reps… Well, that’s just because you have a small upper body/small pressing muscles. You’ll just have to work your way up man, it doesn’t happen over night.

As for stalling below 90 on a single (you mean elbow bend?), that’s not far off the chest… Weak pecs and possibly weak delts?
Do I remember correctly that your overhead-pressing strength was lagging?

What grip-width do you use (for CGP’s and for bench), btw?

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[quote]Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever. [/quote]

I stall around the same spot. Coming off my chest. For instance yesterday, when I tried 315, about two or three inches of my chest I stalled, once the spotter got the bar moving a bit, I was able to finish once my triceps kicked in. I think that’s how it is for most raw benchers. Wearing a bench shirt gives you that pop off the chest.

My bench was stuck around 275-285 for quite some time. I’ve finally broke through that plateau. I didn’t do anything special for it. Just tried to eat more and keep working at the pressing movements. Instead of squats and milk man you need to focus on bench and milk. lol

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha

My last post didn’t go up, hmm.

Either way, it’s -13°F.
And that’s still less than your -1°, which makes me more hardcore than you.

I wasn’t questioning your hardcoreness, I was just pointing out that you could have seemed even more hardcore. I would never resort to such tactics. You sneaky little American… Besides, nothing’s more hardcore than a hamster doing fasted morning cardio outside of his hamster-wheel at -25 degrees. That doesn’t need exaggeration. ;D
Or something like that. Either way, that’s f*ckin’ cold.

:wink:

We used to get -40°C at times if I remember correctly. Not in recent years though… Kind of weird… As kids we used to play Ice-Hockey on the various frozen rivers, “lakes”, etc… In the last decade or so, the water hardly even froze in winter. If I were a kid these days I guess I’d have to make due with inline-skates…

Not that any of the kids here in this day and age do anything physical other than playing some lame-ass soccer every now and again, mind you (on the WII wobble-board lol).

[/quote]

pulls pants up to chest

Yeah, well, when I was a kid we use to have to walk to school uphill in the snow, both ways, and barefoot because we couldn’t afford shoes.

And we didn’t have video games either, we had to use our imagination. In fact, we were so poor that if I didn’t wake up with a boner, I’d have nothing to play with all day. lol

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Erm, ok. Why do you care about your 1RM?
And if you wonder why you can’t do more for reps… Well, that’s just because you have a small upper body/small pressing muscles. You’ll just have to work your way up man, it doesn’t happen over night.

As for stalling below 90 on a single (you mean elbow bend?), that’s not far off the chest… Weak pecs and possibly weak delts?
Do I remember correctly that your overhead-pressing strength was lagging?

What grip-width do you use (for CGP’s and for bench), btw?[/quote]

I care about my 1RM because I want to compete in powerlifting in a couple years.
And I realize it doesn’t happen overnight, I’m just wondering why my presses are always lagging behind everything else.

Like I said, I don’t think it’s my chest… I can chest fly more than guys in my gym who bench in the 300s.

My overhead press is definitely weak, but it’s actually proportionally better than my bench. (Seated is around 145lbsx8-10 and progressing fast) And I’ve only been overhead pressing for about 1/4 the time I’ve been benching.

Close grip I go just inside shoulder width, and normal grip I have my middle fingers on the rings.

Oh well, I still have four years that I can compete in the junior category. That’s a long time to be able to bring my bench up. :stuck_out_tongue:

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[quote]dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever.

I stall around the same spot. Coming off my chest. For instance yesterday, when I tried 315, about two or three inches of my chest I stalled, once the spotter got the bar moving a bit, I was able to finish once my triceps kicked in. I think that’s how it is for most raw benchers. Wearing a bench shirt gives you that pop off the chest.

My bench was stuck around 275-285 for quite some time. I’ve finally broke through that plateau. I didn’t do anything special for it. Just tried to eat more and keep working at the pressing movements. Instead of squats and milk man you need to focus on bench and milk. lol[/quote]

What’s your DB press look like?

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[quote]josh86 wrote:
crod266 wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Yesterday’s Legs

Leg Press:

895x9 (this is maxed weight I can put on + a 40 lb. dumbbell on top), 625x20

*895x9 was the most intense, hardest I’ve ever pushed myself on a leg lift. I mean I really brought that last rep down low and grinded it out, HARD! I grunted sooo fuckin hard my throat hurt and I gave myself a headache. Friend was watching and said pretty much everyone in the weight room was staring. Cheers for me!

Lying Leg Curl:

130x12, 5, 4 (21 RP)

*YAY! I can finally do leg curls again! Lost a bit of strength after not being able to do em for 4 weeks, but I’ll be back!

During shoulder rehab stuff I decided that the following day it just still wouldn’t be ready for heavy pressing. So out of desperation I decided to see if I could do Pec-deck without any shoulder pain and I could! So I did 1 all out set of Pec-deck.

At least I have an exercise I can do now to maintain my chest mass while the shoulder heals…gotta see if there’s any shoulder exercises that don’t hurt next.

josh, what angle do you do leg presses on?

Pretty sure its 45 degree…

If you want to see the actual leg press machine I use you can go to Youtube and search “515 hack squat” it will pull up a video of me doing 515 lb. hack squats for 7 reps. The leg press I use is located right next to that Hack Squat machine I’m using in the video.[/quote]

o ok thanks ya the reason i ask is because my gym has like 5 so i wanted to see which one was working for you

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[quote]dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
C_C - -25 Celsius is -12 Fahrenheit. It would have been more hardcore if you wouldn’t have pointed that out. haha

My last post didn’t go up, hmm.

Either way, it’s -13°F.
And that’s still less than your -1°, which makes me more hardcore than you.

I wasn’t questioning your hardcoreness, I was just pointing out that you could have seemed even more hardcore. I would never resort to such tactics. You sneaky little American… Besides, nothing’s more hardcore than a hamster doing fasted morning cardio outside of his hamster-wheel at -25 degrees. That doesn’t need exaggeration. ;D
Or something like that. Either way, that’s f*ckin’ cold.

:wink:

We used to get -40°C at times if I remember correctly. Not in recent years though… Kind of weird… As kids we used to play Ice-Hockey on the various frozen rivers, “lakes”, etc… In the last decade or so, the water hardly even froze in winter. If I were a kid these days I guess I’d have to make due with inline-skates…

Not that any of the kids here in this day and age do anything physical other than playing some lame-ass soccer every now and again, mind you (on the WII wobble-board lol).

pulls pants up to chest

Yeah, well, when I was a kid we use to have to walk to school uphill in the snow, both ways, and barefoot because we couldn’t afford shoes.
[/quote] lol at the "uphill in the snow, both ways [quote]
And we didn’t have video games either, we had to use our imagination. In fact, we were so poor that if I didn’t wake up with a boner, I’d have nothing to play with all day. lol[/quote]

There’s no way you’re gonna beat me with “kids in the snow” stories, I have a ton of them and don’t even need to make them up.
Pick your battles ;D

Unfortunately, I’m starring in most of them and my role is never a glamorous one haha

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[quote]Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Erm, ok. Why do you care about your 1RM?
And if you wonder why you can’t do more for reps… Well, that’s just because you have a small upper body/small pressing muscles. You’ll just have to work your way up man, it doesn’t happen over night.

As for stalling below 90 on a single (you mean elbow bend?), that’s not far off the chest… Weak pecs and possibly weak delts?
Do I remember correctly that your overhead-pressing strength was lagging?

What grip-width do you use (for CGP’s and for bench), btw?

I care about my 1RM because I want to compete in powerlifting in a couple years.
And I realize it doesn’t happen overnight, I’m just wondering why my presses are always lagging behind everything else.

Like I said, I don’t think it’s my chest… I can chest fly more than guys in my gym who bench in the 300s.

My overhead press is definitely weak, but it’s actually proportionally better than my bench. (Seated is around 145lbsx8-10 and progressing fast) And I’ve only been overhead pressing for about 1/4 the time I’ve been benching.

Close grip I go just inside shoulder width, and normal grip I have my middle fingers on the rings.

Oh well, I still have four years that I can compete in the junior category. That’s a long time to be able to bring my bench up. :P[/quote]

That overhead press is only 66Kg’s for 8-10, it’s bound to progress fast at that stage man :slight_smile: Just drive the numbers up there and also check if you aren’t missing something when it comes to bench form.

Do you do your flyes like sort of a neutral grip press (forearms perpendicular to floor at all times) or like an actual fly (arms almost straight)?

Either way, DB Press numbers?

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever.

I stall around the same spot. Coming off my chest. For instance yesterday, when I tried 315, about two or three inches of my chest I stalled, once the spotter got the bar moving a bit, I was able to finish once my triceps kicked in. I think that’s how it is for most raw benchers. Wearing a bench shirt gives you that pop off the chest.

My bench was stuck around 275-285 for quite some time. I’ve finally broke through that plateau. I didn’t do anything special for it. Just tried to eat more and keep working at the pressing movements. Instead of squats and milk man you need to focus on bench and milk. lol

What’s your DB press look like?
[/quote]

You asking me or Vegg?

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[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
Wow, nice squatting SteelyD

I am kind of interested in why your squat is higher then your deadlift though.

Im going to being starting a 4 day a week 5/3/1 tomorrow.

My maxes are 465 deadlift, 375 squat, 285 bench, and 185 military. Im going to take 90% of those and base my numbers off them. Should be fun.[/quote]

You’ll enjoy hitting PR’s on a regular basis.

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[quote]dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever.

I stall around the same spot. Coming off my chest. For instance yesterday, when I tried 315, about two or three inches of my chest I stalled, once the spotter got the bar moving a bit, I was able to finish once my triceps kicked in. I think that’s how it is for most raw benchers. Wearing a bench shirt gives you that pop off the chest.

My bench was stuck around 275-285 for quite some time. I’ve finally broke through that plateau. I didn’t do anything special for it. Just tried to eat more and keep working at the pressing movements. Instead of squats and milk man you need to focus on bench and milk. lol

What’s your DB press look like?

You asking me or Vegg?[/quote]

Both, since you’re suffering from the same sticking point.

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Where do you stall on your bench (if we’re talking rep work then you just need to put in the time and actually keep getting better for reps instead of complaining that you’re weak… )

Get that lump checked out. I have no idea what it could be, haven’t encountered that before.
Is it any other color than that of your skin?
Either way, go to the doc.

I stall just below 90 degrees, and I’m just weak in general at bench. (max is around 255…) I would expect it to be in the 295-315 range judging from everything else.

I’m 99% sure the wrist lump is this a ganglion cyst, and I just didn’t notice it before. There’s no pain or discoloration whatsoever.

I stall around the same spot. Coming off my chest. For instance yesterday, when I tried 315, about two or three inches of my chest I stalled, once the spotter got the bar moving a bit, I was able to finish once my triceps kicked in. I think that’s how it is for most raw benchers. Wearing a bench shirt gives you that pop off the chest.

My bench was stuck around 275-285 for quite some time. I’ve finally broke through that plateau. I didn’t do anything special for it. Just tried to eat more and keep working at the pressing movements. Instead of squats and milk man you need to focus on bench and milk. lol

What’s your DB press look like?

You asking me or Vegg?

Both, since you’re suffering from the same sticking point.
[/quote]

Overhead press?