[quote]Stuntman Mike wrote:
dre wrote:
Had two good sessions over the weekend. Don’t remember the poundages or anything.
Question, I did rack pulls for the first time of Saturday. I suck at them. I did them from about 1 inch below the knee. The heaviest I could go was 315. WTF? Aren’t you suppose to be stronger on rack pulls?
My legs were almost straight so I couldn’t get any leg drive to start the movement. So, does that mean my back is weak?
Dre, I have the same problem. I think we are either missing something huge, or we simply aren’t built for the movement.
Bug can do reps with about a billion pounds, so why the hell can’t we do at least twice that?
I think we’re missing something.[/quote]
I need something to work with guys… Shoot me a vid.
Think I have a few ideas as to what you’re doing wrong… But a vid to see what’s really going on would be better.
[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:
Stuntman Mike wrote:
dre wrote:
Had two good sessions over the weekend. Don’t remember the poundages or anything.
Question, I did rack pulls for the first time of Saturday. I suck at them. I did them from about 1 inch below the knee. The heaviest I could go was 315. WTF? Aren’t you suppose to be stronger on rack pulls?
My legs were almost straight so I couldn’t get any leg drive to start the movement. So, does that mean my back is weak?
Dre, I have the same problem. I think we are either missing something huge, or we simply aren’t built for the movement.
Bug can do reps with about a billion pounds, so why the hell can’t we do at least twice that?
I think we’re missing something.
I need something to work with guys… Shoot me a vid.
Think I have a few ideas as to what you’re doing wrong… But a vid to see what’s really going on would be better.
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Stuntman Mike - According to my body type, long arms and legs, deadlifting is more natural for me. Maybe that doesn’t carry over to rack pulls?
C_C - Next time I do them I’ll try to bring my camera and get a vid. What ideas do you have C_C? Does it matter where you are pulling from? Like say mid-shin is harder than just above the knee?
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.
Official diet day begins today. Weighed in at at whopping 219 today, so I think I’ve already lost a couple of pounds of water.
Getting a late start today but my sleeping schedule should get pretty consistent for the next 4 weeks. Made myself a nice hearty protein shake with 2 scoops Metabolic Drive, 1 scoop Grow!, 5g creatine, about 1/4c rolled oats, ~2 tbsp peanut butter, a little honey, a little milk and water. Not good but edible. In a couple hours, chicken and beef with olive oil and some whole wheat pasta and veggies! God I’m such a douchebag.
I’ll post some pics later today to mark the start of this whole thing.
Good luck Bug, I’m looking forward to seeing how you turn out at the end of the diet.
Today marks the beginning of my new cleaned up PWO nutrition to see if I can work on slowly leaning out while still progressing weight each week on my lifts. Basically the only thing I’m changing with my entire diet is I’m putting in a PWO carb/protein shake and then a cleanish PWO meal instead of the typical whatever I feel like PWO megameal I had been doing.
If that alone doesnt work in a few weeks I’ll start reducing the amount of whole milk I drink every day while still making sure to keep protein above 400g/day (which I already do). I’m definitely not going to be doing an all out diet or “cut” for a while though. Not until its closer to summer…hopefully if this plan works though I wont need to at all.
[quote]josh86 wrote:
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.[/quote]
Ok, that makes sense. I was pumped to load up a ton of weight on the bar. So, I’m warming up, 135, 225, 315, dang that feels a bit heavier than normal, put on another 50 lbs. to 365 and BAM! Couldn’t even budge the shit. I was pissed. lol
[quote]dre wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.
Ok, that makes sense. I was pumped to load up a ton of weight on the bar. So, I’m warming up, 135, 225, 315, dang that feels a bit heavier than normal, put on another 50 lbs. to 365 and BAM! Couldn’t even budge the shit. I was pissed. lol[/quote]
It seems absurd that your rackpull is lighter than your deadlift… My rackpull was literally 200lbs more than my deadlift the first time I did them, haha.
My guess is that your legs are stronger than your back, which is the complete opposite of my situation…
[quote]Vegg wrote:
dre wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.
Ok, that makes sense. I was pumped to load up a ton of weight on the bar. So, I’m warming up, 135, 225, 315, dang that feels a bit heavier than normal, put on another 50 lbs. to 365 and BAM! Couldn’t even budge the shit. I was pissed. lol
It seems absurd that your rackpull is lighter than your deadlift… My rackpull was literally 200lbs more than my deadlift the first time I did them, haha.
My guess is that your legs are stronger than your back, which is the complete opposite of my situation…[/quote]
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. I know that my lower back is a weak point so that’s probably why the rack pulls were so shitty.
[quote]dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
dre wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.
Ok, that makes sense. I was pumped to load up a ton of weight on the bar. So, I’m warming up, 135, 225, 315, dang that feels a bit heavier than normal, put on another 50 lbs. to 365 and BAM! Couldn’t even budge the shit. I was pissed. lol
It seems absurd that your rackpull is lighter than your deadlift… My rackpull was literally 200lbs more than my deadlift the first time I did them, haha.
My guess is that your legs are stronger than your back, which is the complete opposite of my situation…
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. I know that my lower back is a weak point so that’s probably why the rack pulls were so shitty.[/quote]
how high up are you setting the bar with rack pulls? You should still be able to get considerable drive with your legs and move more weight than a real deadlift.
Maybe it’s just the feeling of the movement your not used to. A proper rack pull is just a deadlift that starts higher than from the floor. Nothing should be changing besides this.
thats definitely strange lol Thatd be my only guess…lol
[quote]Dirty Gerdy wrote:
dre wrote:
Vegg wrote:
dre wrote:
josh86 wrote:
Dre - mid shin is definitely a harder pull than just above the knee. I usually do mine from right at knee level just because that’s how it works out with the safety bars at my gym. I could slightly adjust by standing on plates and moving the safety bars around but I’m too lazy for that. I just go with the knee level pull. Plus I do them for my back and the higher I pull from the more load I can use to overload my back.
Ok, that makes sense. I was pumped to load up a ton of weight on the bar. So, I’m warming up, 135, 225, 315, dang that feels a bit heavier than normal, put on another 50 lbs. to 365 and BAM! Couldn’t even budge the shit. I was pissed. lol
It seems absurd that your rackpull is lighter than your deadlift… My rackpull was literally 200lbs more than my deadlift the first time I did them, haha.
My guess is that your legs are stronger than your back, which is the complete opposite of my situation…
That’s exactly what I’m thinking. I know that my lower back is a weak point so that’s probably why the rack pulls were so shitty.
how high up are you setting the bar with rack pulls? You should still be able to get considerable drive with your legs and move more weight than a real deadlift.
Maybe it’s just the feeling of the movement your not used to. A proper rack pull is just a deadlift that starts higher than from the floor. Nothing should be changing besides this.
thats definitely strange lol Thatd be my only guess…lol
DG[/quote]
The bar was set a couple of inches below my knees.
This week I’m going to move the bar to just about my knee and see if that makes a difference.
Did 3 circuits of pullups, pushups and crunches. My recovery is definitely getting better with time.
I’ve been eating a bit more food, and I’m hanging right around 180 right now…If my run times keep on getting better like they have been, I may even go to boot camp at 180. I’ll just have to wait and see how that goes.
Speaking of knees, my knees gave me hell today. Warmed up on squats up to 365 but I felt a strange pressure in my right knee (I have knee pain off and on since about 2 years ago when I took a bad fall and another dude fell on my knee during jujutsu training). So I nixed squats and front squats.
Romanian deadlifts (about an inch above the floor)
225lbs x 10
315lbs x 10
365lbs x 10
405lbs x 8
Lying leg curls
90lbs x 10
130lbs x 8
155lbs x 10 + 5 + 4 (19RP)
Leg extensions
130lbs x 10
240lbs x 45
Seated calf raises to finish. Blah. My eating has been on point today be proud. I feel small. The end.
yeah maybe i should start training my shoulders again too. they feel really tight when i do the DB presses like right in the shoulder/pec area. but my chest is never sore when i do them…eh idk, shoulders are so fucked up anyway. i think im just going to save up and buy new ones, fuck a car.
Ok fuckers, I posted pics on my T-Page… Every lighting provides different problems and this one creates some shadows that makes shit disappear or look smaller, but whatever, it’s pretty fuckin accurate. Sitting at around 219lbs.
I’m gonna take some every 3 weeks. Then, get to fix all my fucking weaknesses! Woo.
lol Thatd be my only guess…lol