Statistically woman cheat more often then men, so I don’t get the big demonisation of cheating men on shows such as Oprah and Dr Phil or on this forum. For millions of years we have been polygamous why should things change over 30 years (or present day)…
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Aha! I was suspecting you were quoting a woman’s idealist toughts, Mr Hunter… ; )
Like pop singers with love songs writen by women for women and the female fans think he wrote that stuff from HIS SOUL…yeah, my deadlifted gluts
I’m on to you Hunter - you do have a “head hunting” tough, nice one!
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I can’t prove my thoughts to anyone, but those were and are what I hold true. My wife of 18 years has the very qualities I described.
HH
brilliant or not brilliant men who cheat or be unfaithfull to the woman that they say they love are fuckwits…its simple, you confess to a lady that you love her and she feels the same way then you keep it that way…and if you not content then you dont deserve that lady.
Thank you alpha fem, did that bring something (someone) to mind? It did for me. Pretty much been looking for that since the last time
Maybe men who can only use/cycle women haven’t been privileged to feel such a rapport, so can’t understand it’s effects, or meaning
When you feel so connected through touch and sight, i think your attitude will shift forever, to caresses of support and gentle treatment of every woman.
ps I’ve ordered Spike, hope it comes sonn 
[quote]Kailash wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Your choice of words in "most elegant, pure " reminds me of the Spike article where Tim says the energy burn of Spike is a clean and elegant burn, making this supplement more elegant and sophisticated than ephedrine and free from its jitters…That’s the kind of sexual energy I’d rather experience and share.
Wha-HaHa-t? After mentioning HOT-ROX previously (as making you horny) I seriously hope you aren’t working for Biotest.[/quote]
No, I don’t work for Biotest.
Biotest works, for me.
[quote]Headhunter wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Aha! I was suspecting you were quoting a woman’s idealist toughts, Mr Hunter… ; )
Like pop singers with love songs writen by women for women and the female fans think he wrote that stuff from HIS SOUL…yeah, my deadlifted gluts
I’m on to you Hunter - you do have a “head hunting” tough, nice one!
I can’t prove my thoughts to anyone, but those were and are what I hold true. My wife of 18 years has the very qualities I described.
HH
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I am extremely happy for you.
Please, please, please - I beg you write a book for males.
We need role models like you.
I will write a book on the manipulative “powers” of women and how they should get real about their concealed agressions and should go lift something heavy insted of berating their male kind and trying to “change” them - men are wonderful as they are, if you’re not happy with their make-up go get a lifting life…
…its women more then men that should be lifting iron, they agress me too - but that’s another book… ; )
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Thank you alpha fem, did that bring something (someone) to mind? It did for me. Pretty much been looking for that since the last time
Maybe men who can only use/cycle women haven’t been privileged to feel such a rapport, so can’t understand it’s effects, or meaning
When you feel so connected through touch and sight, i think your attitude will shift forever, to caresses of support and gentle treatment of every woman.
ps I’ve ordered Spike, hope it comes sonn
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You should DEFINITELY write a book!!
You don’t need Spike, Spike is already running through you.
Any more of you out there?..Please, come out.The world is a big place, there is enough room for everyone.
And to those who think sex without a meaningful emotional connection is “fun”, well…women are bored and deeply dissatisfied - they just won’t tell you ( or admit to it themselves - it’s that capacity to bullshit ourselves we humans posses that Orion spoke of ) because they think that sex just for pleasure/ “fun” is all men are capable of so they sell out. It isn’t just men though culturaly it’s what is expected of them - some women are not capable either so both men and women who “cycle”, as dannyrat said, should stop preaching that sex is “fun” and admit they are afraid/unwilling/uncapable of a higher/intimate and more sophisticated sexual expression - Aaah… that elegant, clean ride of Spike… I should work for Biotest, shouldn’t I, ; )
I don’t see anybody winning in this “game”. As for “fun”, fun should fill you up - all I observe is people coming home from these encounters lonely and empty and hungrier for the next “fix”.
To each his own.
[quote]Mad Titan wrote:
brillant men do but wise men don’t[/quote]
excellent
[quote]Alpha F wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
Not just with sex, but i think delayed gratification is a lot of what separates human beings from animals anyhow.
…and children from adults.
Dominant males are in control of their sexual drives ;
They drive. They are not driven…
Self-mastery
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The master of one’s domain. OHHHHYEAAHH!
[quote]dannyrat wrote:
Thank you alpha fem, did that bring something (someone) to mind?
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Yes it did, and he remains in my heart still.
I just hope he has the presence of mind to see that my spirit has already embraced him because he was the man who made my heart smile - and therefore his fear is unfounded and obsolete.
He said to me: " I am ashamed of myself, your words are so beautiful…you have more courage then I do"
I stopped being angry and dissapointed when a man doesn’t “have the balls” to act with the courage I am expecting of him because I know that I, myself, haven’t always been that brave.
Before him, I was once in fact, just like him.
And having loved him unconditionally I counted the bars of my own cell and earned my freedom.
He is my bundle of joy!
Because he makes my heart smile and I absolutely love the way he lifts.
…I just love his way.
It’s that simple for me. : )
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Mad Titan wrote:
brillant men do but wise men don’t
excellent[/quote]
Indeed.
[quote]jsbrook wrote:
rumblefish wrote:
So the majority here seem to think that men who marry and cheat are scum, hardly men, definately not T-men. What about men who never marry and take different women on a regular basis, avoiding relationships? I think that fits the T-Nation man just as well as monogamous marriage. If anything is Alpha Male, its that.
Sure, if you get fulfillment from that and aren’t hurting anyone. But don’t think scoring lots of women makes you anymore of an Alpha Male than being happily married. it ain’t that hard. I think casual sex is fun too.
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How could you possibly not be hurting anyone? Every time you have sex there is the possibility you will create a human life.
30% of children in America today are being raised in a single parent home, 87% of which are single mothers.
Some brilliant men (and women) may.
Low life, chain smokin, ripple drinkin,
skuz ball, men (and women) may.
Brilliance does not produce morality.
IMO if a man will cheat on his wife he will certainly have no problem cheating a business partner or anyone else.
DISCLAIMER: This was in no way intended to infer that chain smokin, ripple drinkin, skuz balls are necessarily low life cheaters or that they are less able to conduct themselves in a moral way. And there is absolutely nothing wrong with having been married 5 or 6 times or not at all. And anyone else who may have been offended by the above statement. And I understand that some of the spelling may have been incorrect in the above post.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
How could you possibly not be hurting anyone? Every time you have sex there is the possibility you will create a human life.
30% of children in America today are being raised in a single parent home, 87% of which are single mothers.
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Vasectomy
[quote]Magarhe wrote:
Einstein also stole most of his work from his brilliant wife.
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I was not aware that this had been conclusively proven.
Why is it taken for granted that sex and love are so deeply connected? I mean, let’s not sit around and pretend that this isn’t completely rooted in Judeochristian values. When you have sex with someone you love, it takes on a completely different meaning. It satisfies the yin side, for lack of a better term. When you fuck the hot blonde you met at the bar, it satisfies the yang–the masculine drive to spread seed and conquer. You can’t ignore either aspect and be successful.
Men “cheat” because the term is misdefined. You’re only being unfaithful if you’re also in love with the “other” woman. Otherwise it doesn’t mean anything in the context of the relationship. And this is neglecting the reality that there’s no reason why you can’t love and share your time between more than one woman. I understand the rationale behind only choosing one woman with whom to procreate (even though it’s certainly not the only way to structure society), but complete monogamy is utterly unrealistic.
Only a few posters acknowledge that woman cheat just as often as men, yet the “men” bashers on this thread are mostly men. Fucking crazy. Who are you guys trying to kid?
Men get caught because they feel guilty and are compelled to confess their “sin”.
Women are more discreet.
The act of procreation has nothing to do with love. Humans, like animals, are programmed to fuck so we don’t die out. Period.
All the male morale police on this thread probably get in trouble by their wives for looking at porn. Is that cheating also? Lusting and maybe…gasp…masturbating to the images of another woman. Infidelity also?
Whether man fights for territory, food or banging a woman, it’s all human fucking nature!
If you think it’s wrong, blame your God for programming you that way.
[quote]doogie wrote:
JPBear wrote:
How could you possibly not be hurting anyone? Every time you have sex there is the possibility you will create a human life.
30% of children in America today are being raised in a single parent home, 87% of which are single mothers.
Vasectomy[/quote]
I’m glad JPBear brought this out, I held back not to mention it.
And yes, vasectomy. Though that doesn’t rule out;
1.AIDS
2.Sexual diseases
3.Tubs of Haangen Dazz ice cream to fill the empty void and heartache in women.
4.Cocaine and Ecstasy to avoid The Void and any conciousness pains to keep the dilusion going in men.
5. Alcohol abuse for both sexes to numb the pain of self-abuse.
[quote]JPBear wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
rumblefish wrote:
So the majority here seem to think that men who marry and cheat are scum, hardly men, definately not T-men. What about men who never marry and take different women on a regular basis, avoiding relationships? I think that fits the T-Nation man just as well as monogamous marriage. If anything is Alpha Male, its that.
Sure, if you get fulfillment from that and aren’t hurting anyone. But don’t think scoring lots of women makes you anymore of an Alpha Male than being happily married. it ain’t that hard. I think casual sex is fun too.
How could you possibly not be hurting anyone? Every time you have sex there is the possibility you will create a human life.
30% of children in America today are being raised in a single parent home, 87% of which are single mothers.
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Birth control. Condoms. If something fails [very unlikely] you embrace and love the child for which you are responsible for bringing into the world.
[quote]wfifer wrote:
Why is it taken for granted that sex and love are so deeply connected? I mean, let’s not sit around and pretend that this isn’t completely rooted in Judeochristian values. When you have sex with someone you love, it takes on a completely different meaning. It satisfies the yin side, for lack of a better term. When you fuck the hot blonde you met at the bar, it satisfies the yang–the masculine drive to spread seed and conquer. You can’t ignore either aspect and be successful.
Men “cheat” because the term is misdefined. You’re only being unfaithful if you’re also in love with the “other” woman. Otherwise it doesn’t mean anything in the context of the relationship. And this is neglecting the reality that there’s no reason why you can’t love and share your time between more than one woman. I understand the rationale behind only choosing one woman with whom to procreate (even though it’s certainly not the only way to structure society), but complete monogamy is utterly unrealistic.[/quote]
I don’t agree. I do agree sex can be enjoyable without being meaningful. No, I don’t think it’s a sin eitehr. That does not mean that it’s not cheating when the other person expects fidelity. It’s a betrayal. It doesn’t matter if you love the person you cheat on. Or don’t love the person you cheat with. Or you don’t love the person you’re in a relationship with. In that case, you should not be in a relationship with that person.