Brilliant Men Betray Wives

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[quote]Typhoon wrote:
If you make the decision to not be monogomous more power to you. But you are pathetic if you are doing behind your partners back. If you want to be able to be with more then one woman make it clear from the begining there are women out there that would be all for an open relationships. But then its not cheating anymore is it.

We are talking about cheating having a partner thats committed to you and then you going behind their back and screwing someone else.

I am all for not thinking in social norms, living all over the world teaches you a lot of things. But when it comes to being with another person its pretty simple, dont be selfish enough to do stuff behind your parnters back when they are commited to you and monogomy is expected.[/quote]

Agreed

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for those who want to write it out…

the integral of e ^ x = f of U to the n

einstein knew math, and he knew this fundamental formula to be very true

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Einstein also stole most of his work from his brilliant wife. And after they split he spent the rest of his life arguing against new developments in science. But hey the world would rather think of the genius with crazy hair and wild eyes and a funny accent, instead of the brilliant and quiet housewife.

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The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH[/quote]

I’m here!

; )

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If Einstein was so brilliant and pioneering, why the hell did he get married in the first place? I’l like to think his wife was having a good time with someone better looking than the old man!

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH[/quote]

You teach them Hunter!

…Somebody stop me, I’m loving this thread !!! : )

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[quote]Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH[/quote]

Sure. But not loving someone and going around boinking every vacuous slut do not have to be the same thing. It could be that, or someone you are in a casual relationship with that you respect but aren’t ready to make that committment to. Or someone you love and you are married to or plan to marry or anywhere in between. I also don’t think sex has to reflect a mental state. It can be an intensly pleasuarble experience without being more than that. It won’t be meaningful. But that doesn’t translate to a general lack of courage and integrity. And it doesn’t mean it can’t be meaningful with someone else that you do love and do make that committment to. You just have to recognize things for what they are.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH

You teach them Hunter!

…Somebody stop me, I’m loving this thread !!! : )

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Ah, he is more or less quoting Rand, forgetting that she was a woman.

What Ayn Rand cries for in every page of “Atlas Shrugged” is a dominant, intelligent, aggressive Alpha Male, and her heroine is willing to leave her partner at a moments notice if someone more dominant and competent comes along, like a bitch in heat.

In other words she shamelessly follows her genetic programming.

If I, being a man, being programmed differently, shamelessly follow mine, I am insecure, inmature, I do not live up to her “rational” ideas and expectations…

Yeah, right…

Plus, if nobility, courage and integrity where a necessity for the human mating process we hardly would have hit the 6 billion mark…

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Einstein was married to his first cousin.

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[quote]orion wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH

You teach them Hunter!

…Somebody stop me, I’m loving this thread !!! : )

Ah, he is more or less quoting Rand, forgetting that she was a woman.

What Ayn Rand cries for in every page of “Atlas Shrugged” is a dominant, intelligent, aggressive Alpha Male, and her heroine is willing to leave her partner at a moments notice if someone more dominant and competent comes along, like a bitch in heat.

In other words she shamelessly follows her genetic programming.

If I, being a man, being programmed differently, shamelessly follow mine, I am insecure, inmature, I do not live up to her “rational” ideas and expectations…

Yeah, right…

Plus, if nobility, courage and integrity where a necessity for the human mating process we hardly would have hit the 6 billion mark…[/quote]

Uh, if that’s what you take from it, ok…

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[quote]orion wrote:

Ah, he is more or less quoting Rand, forgetting that she was a woman.

What Ayn Rand cries for in every page of “Atlas Shrugged” is a dominant, intelligent, aggressive Alpha Male, and her heroine is willing to leave her partner at a moments notice if someone more dominant and competent comes along, like a bitch in heat.

In other words she shamelessly follows her genetic programming.

If I, being a man, being programmed differently, shamelessly follow mine, I am insecure, inmature, I do not live up to her “rational” ideas and expectations…

Yeah, right…

Plus, if nobility, courage and integrity where a necessity for the human mating process we hardly would have hit the 6 billion mark…[/quote]

Aha! I was suspecting you were quoting a woman’s idealist toughts, Mr Hunter… ; )
Like pop singers with love songs writen by women for women and the female fans think he wrote that stuff from HIS SOUL…yeah, my deadlifted gluts

I’m on to you Hunter - you do have a “head hunting” tough, nice one!

I, on the other hand, am swinging and swimming in my female hormonal soup, folLowing the scent of the Alpha Male already controling and blunting my perceptive powers…

I hate to admit it but you guys are dominating me…I acquiesce.

Ok, Orion, I have to give it to you again - you are right, perhaps I am “like a bitch in heat”
( I blame the HOT-ROX Extreme for this )

But I disagree on the point about nobility, courage and integrity. It isn’t a necessity for procreation but desirable qualities I would attribute to the Ultimate Alpha Male and Female

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:

Uh, if that’s what you take from it, ok…[/quote]

I did not say that this isn`t a respectable point of view, I said that is a primarily female one and that others are equally valid.

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If you found a woman like the one you describe headhunter, i can’t imagine anything to stop that, or confuse this feeling.

I believe men who cheat are fuckers, (they even know that its a power trip) but let’s not discount the ways of lesser women than this ideal one, who make u feel bad, manipulate, so much that ur only freedom is some inches beneath ur bellybutton.

There’s a primal system going on, still, the most elegant, pure relationship we can aspire to is the monogamy where you can spend minutes at a time just looking in each others eyes

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So the majority here seem to think that men who marry and cheat are scum, hardly men, definately not T-men. What about men who never marry and take different women on a regular basis, avoiding relationships? I think that fits the T-Nation man just as well as monogamous marriage. If anything is Alpha Male, its that.

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[quote]rumblefish wrote:
So the majority here seem to think that men who marry and cheat are scum, hardly men, definately not T-men. What about men who never marry and take different women on a regular basis, avoiding relationships? I think that fits the T-Nation man just as well as monogamous marriage. If anything is Alpha Male, its that.[/quote]

Sure, if you get fulfillment from that and aren’t hurting anyone. But don’t think scoring lots of women makes you anymore of an Alpha Male than being happily married. it ain’t that hard. I think casual sex is fun too.

But I think most people once they’ve had their fun seek something more. Seems to me that most people who’ve reached a certain age without any significant relationships and having had any lasting attachments tend to feel pretty empty. Even Hugh Hefner has relationships, albeit sometimes with more than one woman/plaything 1/4 his age. lol

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[quote]dannyrat wrote:
If you found a woman like the one you describe headhunter, i can’t imagine anything to stop that, or confuse this feeling.

I believe men who cheat are fuckers, (they even know that its a power trip) but let’s not discount the ways of lesser women than this ideal one, who make u feel bad, manipulate, so much that ur only freedom is some inches beneath ur bellybutton.

There’s a primal system going on, still, the most elegant, pure relationship we can aspire to is the monogamy where you can spend minutes at a time just looking in each others eyes[/quote]

I agree with all you said - and yes, we could start a whole new thread only on the manipulative “powers” of women.

I particularly like your last paragraph. But then again, I am an idealist aware of the objective reality that very few people understand that you don’t have to forefeit the quality of innocence ( as in simplicity and clarity ) to enjoy the intensity of a pleasurable sexual experience. If anything it makes one’s sexual drive all the more powerful as it is all-embracing.

Your choice of words in "most elegant, pure " reminds me of the Spike article where Tim says the energy burn of Spike is a clean and elegant burn, making this supplement more elegant and sophisticated than ephedrine and free from its jitters…That’s the kind of sexual energy I’d rather experience and share.

I truly miss this particularity of which you spoke of as “the most elegant pure relationship is the monogamy…”

Thank you for that. I couldn’t have put it better.

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[quote]Alpha F wrote:
Your choice of words in "most elegant, pure " reminds me of the Spike article where Tim says the energy burn of Spike is a clean and elegant burn, making this supplement more elegant and sophisticated than ephedrine and free from its jitters…That’s the kind of sexual energy I’d rather experience and share.[/quote]

Wha-HaHa-t? After mentioning HOT-ROX previously (as making you horny) I seriously hope you aren’t working for Biotest.

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brillant men do but wise men don’t

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[quote]orion wrote:
Alpha F wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
The person with whom you have sex should reflect your values. If you have sex with a mindless slut, then this reflects your mental state.

If nobility, courage, and integrity mean something to you, then a person who has these values will be attractive to you.

Imagine a woman who overcomes every obstacle, who looks at every fresh challenge as an adventure, who never gives up and never gives in. Isn’t she WAY more attractive than a giggling vacuum who ‘just loves your new car and hot clothes’? Yep.

HH

You teach them Hunter!

…Somebody stop me, I’m loving this thread !!! : )

Ah, he is more or less quoting Rand, forgetting that she was a woman.

What Ayn Rand cries for in every page of “Atlas Shrugged” is a dominant, intelligent, aggressive Alpha Male, and her heroine is willing to leave her partner at a moments notice if someone more dominant and competent comes along, like a bitch in heat.

In other words she shamelessly follows her genetic programming.

If I, being a man, being programmed differently, shamelessly follow mine, I am insecure, inmature, I do not live up to her “rational” ideas and expectations…

Yeah, right…

Plus, if nobility, courage and integrity where a necessity for the human mating process we hardly would have hit the 6 billion mark…[/quote]

All that reading and you missed her point entirely: you cannot disconnect the values of your mind from your body. Your emotions are a reflection of your values. The heroine in the novel finally finds her ideal man, the summation of all that she values, and she goes to him. I’d not call such a woman a ‘bitch in heat’.

There is, of course, much more to the book than her discussion of love.

The values Ms. Rand expresses have also been my values for as long as I remember. She is the first person I’ve read who wrote what I’ve always thought, and for that I’m deeply indebted to her.

HH