Brain Function Boosters

There is a legal, addictive stimulant drug that has taken the world by storm. Millions of users habitually use this drug every day, and it is taken orally in liquid suspension form, which provides a direct hit straight to the human central nervous system.

After oral administration this drug appears in the blood in about 5 minutes after ingestion. Peak plasma concentrations usually occur in 15-120 minutes after ingestion.

It produces a profound CNS stimulation. Many individuals use it to reduce drowsiness and fatigue, improve mood, alertness and productivity. It increases capacity for sustained intellectual effort with clearer flow of thought.

Doses above 250mg produce nervousness, insomnia, restlessness, and tremors. At higher doses focal and generalized convulsions have been observed.

It is chemically known as 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

Look out for it on department store shelves near you.

[quote]NewDamage wrote:
Just wanted to say that I took an Adderal the other day, and the difference in how I felt, thought, and acted was so profound, that I decided to do some more research into nootropic agents. I have been struggling with possible signs of depression and lack of focus for a long time, but was not sure if it was just stress, or whether it was something I needed to look at. Combine that with the fact that I am usually notoriously “anti”-anti-depressant, and the result was that I never seriously traveled down the path to cognitive enhancement.

After noticing the extreme contrast between how I normally feel and how I felt while on Adderal, I decided that perhaps my struggles with studying and social anxiety are perhaps not normal byproducts of my life, and thus I devoured this thread for information. While I have not ruled out possible evaluation and medical treatment, I will go that route as a last resort. In the meantime, I am going to research these nootropic agents thoroughly, and attempt to increase my cognitive abilities through natural means if I can. I will report back the progress.

The main point of this post, however, is to thank you guys for the awesome discussion you have been having and the great resource you have created through that discussion. Keep up the good work![/quote]

Thanks, stay with this thread for more info.

Just letting you know about Adderall, the good and the bad:

Amphetamines are very powerful stimulants, second only to cocaine in effect. It seems like increased dopamine is your thing, judging by the positive effects you experienced - it was mine too.

I remember when I first tried some dexamphetamine which I swiped from my cousin’s “ADD medication” bottle; I felt invincible, confident, euphoric, outgoing, loving towards everyone and enthusiastic.

Studying and reading while on it felt like the best thing in the world too. While I could think very in-depth and prolifically, I never really produced completed assignments while on it, because I became hyper-focused on the smallest detail of a topic, and would spend hours trying to resolve a single, mind-bendingly difficult, concentrated question, without coming to a satisfactory answer.

Eventually my road led to habitual use and the purchasing of dirty ‘street’ speed. I kicked the habit three years ago, but cracked a tooth and lost a tooth because of it. I still get butterflies in my stomach when I think of the rush.

Just be careful and don’t let it lead to abuse, that’s all I’m saying. It can become a slippery slope of self-deception.

Some people can use drugs like Adderall responsibly, some can become full blown addicts and ‘tweakers’. I ended up somewhere in between.

In regards to Adderall for children, I personally don’t believe that ADD/ADHD is a real disease at all. It is just a blanket term psychiatrists/psychologists use to explain certain behavioural patterns in children who do not fit in at school, or are having problems, thus labelling them as having a brain-based biological disorder. This justifies the administration of high doses of amphetamines to millions of children, as young as 5 years old. It is a performance-enhancing drug, which explains why their concentration and focus improves while on it.

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
There is a legal, addictive stimulant drug that has taken the world by storm. Millions of users habitually use this drug every day, and it is taken orally in liquid suspension form, which provides a direct hit straight to the human central nervous system.

After oral administration this drug appears in the blood in about 5 minutes after ingestion. Peak plasma concentrations usually occur in 15-120 minutes after ingestion.

It produces a profound CNS stimulation. Many individuals use it to reduce drowsiness and fatigue, improve mood, alertness and productivity. It increases capacity for sustained intellectual effort with clearer flow of thought.

Doses above 250mg produce nervousness, insomnia, restlessness, and tremors. At higher doses focal and generalized convulsions have been observed.

It is chemically known as 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

Look out for it on department store shelves near you.[/quote]

Caffeine. Do I win??

[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
There is a legal, addictive stimulant drug that has taken the world by storm. Millions of users habitually use this drug every day, and it is taken orally in liquid suspension form, which provides a direct hit straight to the human central nervous system.

After oral administration this drug appears in the blood in about 5 minutes after ingestion. Peak plasma concentrations usually occur in 15-120 minutes after ingestion.

It produces a profound CNS stimulation. Many individuals use it to reduce drowsiness and fatigue, improve mood, alertness and productivity. It increases capacity for sustained intellectual effort with clearer flow of thought.

Doses above 250mg produce nervousness, insomnia, restlessness, and tremors. At higher doses focal and generalized convulsions have been observed.

It is chemically known as 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

Look out for it on department store shelves near you.

Caffeine. Do I win??[/quote]

LOL. Yes, you have won the prize!!! Tell him what he’s won, Johnny!

  • A holiday to Phuket with $5,000 spending money
  • A year’s supply of AAS and PCT goodies OR Biotest supplements
  • Some sexy girlfriend pics

Actually, there never was a prize involved - but you can feel proud of yourself for your astute observation.

:wink:

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
There is a legal, addictive stimulant drug that has taken the world by storm. Millions of users habitually use this drug every day, and it is taken orally in liquid suspension form, which provides a direct hit straight to the human central nervous system.

After oral administration this drug appears in the blood in about 5 minutes after ingestion. Peak plasma concentrations usually occur in 15-120 minutes after ingestion.

It produces a profound CNS stimulation. Many individuals use it to reduce drowsiness and fatigue, improve mood, alertness and productivity. It increases capacity for sustained intellectual effort with clearer flow of thought.

Doses above 250mg produce nervousness, insomnia, restlessness, and tremors. At higher doses focal and generalized convulsions have been observed.

It is chemically known as 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

Look out for it on department store shelves near you.

Caffeine. Do I win??

LOL. Yes, you have won the prize!!! Tell him what he’s won, Johnny!

  • A holiday to Phuket with $5,000 spending money
  • A year’s supply of AAS and PCT goodies OR Biotest supplements
  • Some sexy girlfriend pics

Actually, there never was a prize involved - but you can feel proud of yourself for your astute observation.

:wink:
[/quote]

YEA!!! I won!

Who’s girlfriend’s pictures can I expect? Haha.

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
I tried the Get Smart formula two years ago. It’s changed from their original formula, which was released a few more years back. Each capsule contains:

Vinpocetine 10mg
Centrophenoxine 250mg
Pyritinol 200mg
Picamilon 100mg
Aniracetam 200mg
Oxiracetam 50mg
Idebenone 10mg
Galantamine 300mcg
Huperzine A 100mcg

They even threw in a free bottle of Piracetam as well, which was an unexpected bonus.

It contains a good amount of centro, but the other active ingredients in small amounts. I think it’s meant to have a synergistic effect.

I found that I got a bit overstimulated on the stack and could not sleep if I took it with Piracetam, but if I took it on its own, honestly I didn’t notice much difference. Well, I have to admit that while I didn’t feel any immediate effect - I did ace a couple of tests and quizzes at university while I was on it.[/quote]

I started looking up some information on Picamilon and that looks interesting. It seems to have a calming effect that allows increased focus. I know wiki isn’t the best source, but here ya’ go.

[quote]Brant_Drake wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
I tried the Get Smart formula two years ago. It’s changed from their original formula, which was released a few more years back. Each capsule contains:

Vinpocetine 10mg
Centrophenoxine 250mg
Pyritinol 200mg
Picamilon 100mg
Aniracetam 200mg
Oxiracetam 50mg
Idebenone 10mg
Galantamine 300mcg
Huperzine A 100mcg

They even threw in a free bottle of Piracetam as well, which was an unexpected bonus.

It contains a good amount of centro, but the other active ingredients in small amounts. I think it’s meant to have a synergistic effect.

I found that I got a bit overstimulated on the stack and could not sleep if I took it with Piracetam, but if I took it on its own, honestly I didn’t notice much difference. Well, I have to admit that while I didn’t feel any immediate effect - I did ace a couple of tests and quizzes at university while I was on it.

I started looking up some information on Picamilon and that looks interesting. It seems to have a calming effect that allows increased focus. I know wiki isn’t the best source, but here ya’ go.

[/quote]
Yes indeed, that was a very interesting read Brant, thanks for the link.

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
NewDamage wrote:
Just wanted to say that I took an Adderal the other day, and the difference in how I felt, thought, and acted was so profound, that I decided to do some more research into nootropic agents. I have been struggling with possible signs of depression and lack of focus for a long time, but was not sure if it was just stress, or whether it was something I needed to look at. Combine that with the fact that I am usually notoriously “anti”-anti-depressant, and the result was that I never seriously traveled down the path to cognitive enhancement.

After noticing the extreme contrast between how I normally feel and how I felt while on Adderal, I decided that perhaps my struggles with studying and social anxiety are perhaps not normal byproducts of my life, and thus I devoured this thread for information. While I have not ruled out possible evaluation and medical treatment, I will go that route as a last resort. In the meantime, I am going to research these nootropic agents thoroughly, and attempt to increase my cognitive abilities through natural means if I can. I will report back the progress.

The main point of this post, however, is to thank you guys for the awesome discussion you have been having and the great resource you have created through that discussion. Keep up the good work!

Thanks, stay with this thread for more info.

Just letting you know about Adderall, the good and the bad:

Amphetamines are very powerful stimulants, second only to cocaine in effect. It seems like increased dopamine is your thing, judging by the positive effects you experienced - it was mine too.

I remember when I first tried some dexamphetamine which I swiped from my cousin’s “ADD medication” bottle; I felt invincible, confident, euphoric, outgoing, loving towards everyone and enthusiastic.

Studying and reading while on it felt like the best thing in the world too. While I could think very in-depth and prolifically, I never really produced completed assignments while on it, because I became hyper-focused on the smallest detail of a topic, and would spend hours trying to resolve a single, mind-bendingly difficult, concentrated question, without coming to a satisfactory answer.

Eventually my road led to habitual use and the purchasing of dirty ‘street’ speed. I kicked the habit three years ago, but cracked a tooth and lost a tooth because of it. I still get butterflies in my stomach when I think of the rush.

Just be careful and don’t let it lead to abuse, that’s all I’m saying. It can become a slippery slope of self-deception.

Some people can use drugs like Adderall responsibly, some can become full blown addicts and ‘tweakers’. I ended up somewhere in between.

In regards to Adderall for children, I personally don’t believe that ADD/ADHD is a real disease at all. It is just a blanket term psychiatrists/psychologists use to explain certain behavioural patterns in children who do not fit in at school, or are having problems, thus labelling them as having a brain-based biological disorder. This justifies the administration of high doses of amphetamines to millions of children, as young as 5 years old. It is a performance-enhancing drug, which explains why their concentration and focus improves while on it.[/quote]

I can vouch for all this. Ritalin had precisely the effects you just described to me. Playing guitar on the stuff was heavenly and classes that would otherwise put me to sleep suddenly cintillated and had me locked in. Risky, risky stuff.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Well I fianlly got my ‘mega selection’ of nootropics, thanks to customs and their charges.

I have begun the quest for a planetary-sized intelligence and memory by commencing with 1000mg of centrophenoxine.

I have already noticed a mild effect in terms of alertness.

I think I will also pop 500mg of aniracetam too, cos I’m freaky like that :wink:

Now, what do you guys think about vinpocetine as an essential synergyst for nootropics? Since it increases blood supply to the brain, and since all these nootropics first have to make it to the brain before crossing the BBB, then I think that to get your moneys worth from any nootropic, a little vinpo is going to be a must have addition.

What do you guys reckon?

bushy[/quote]
That makes sense to me, great to hear you’re up and running with the goods bud. Can’t wait to hear about it. I should be getting my stuff from p.pride today or tomorrow, and some Moda,(200mg tabs), should arrive today as a sampler. If they come today, I’ll pop one and report back in on studying later. This is great news as I have a difficult exam coming up fast on all of this brain/nerve topic. Lots of shit to remember and comprehend. The end of these semesters gets a little hectic. Good to hear from you, and let us know how things go big guy.

                 peace mate,
                    ToneBone

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Well I fianlly got my ‘mega selection’ of nootropics, thanks to customs and their charges.

I have begun the quest for a planetary-sized intelligence and memory by commencing with 1000mg of centrophenoxine.

I have already noticed a mild effect in terms of alertness.

I think I will also pop 500mg of aniracetam too, cos I’m freaky like that :wink:

Now, what do you guys think about vinpocetine as an essential synergyst for nootropics? Since it increases blood supply to the brain, and since all these nootropics first have to make it to the brain before crossing the BBB, then I think that to get your moneys worth from any nootropic, a little vinpo is going to be a must have addition.

What do you guys reckon?

bushy[/quote]

I reckon that’s a good question because I don’t have any. Like many others here, this thread has inspired me to experiment with various nootropics. I started with piracetam and choline bitartrate (I add GABA to the mix at night). I just received my aniracetam, inositol, L-Tyrosine and melatonin. I’m trying out the compounds singly and in various combinations in an effort to acheive the best synergistic mix for my personal needs.

I’ll let you know how it goes but I must say that the simple piracetam/choline combo is nothing short of amazing. My almost lifelong (and sometimes debilitating) anxiety-depression cycles have almost completely faded out leaving me in a happy/focused place all day long. I’m solving work problems at light speed.

My writer’s blocks (lyrics used to be such an Achilles’ heel!) have turned into inspired creative sessions. About the only negative (besides spending money) is that I’m sore all the time since my workouts have become so intense. Especially those last reps. Has anyone else noticed this???

My sincere thanks to all (except that moronic tanizaki troll 8^), especially InTheZone and of course, Bushy.

Two questions: 1) Where is the best place to get the vinpo since I don’t see it at BulkNutrition. 2) Has anyone tried adding chromium to their mix?

[quote]Kruiser wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Well I fianlly got my ‘mega selection’ of nootropics, thanks to customs and their charges.

I have begun the quest for a planetary-sized intelligence and memory by commencing with 1000mg of centrophenoxine.

I have already noticed a mild effect in terms of alertness.

I think I will also pop 500mg of aniracetam too, cos I’m freaky like that :wink:

Now, what do you guys think about vinpocetine as an essential synergyst for nootropics? Since it increases blood supply to the brain, and since all these nootropics first have to make it to the brain before crossing the BBB, then I think that to get your moneys worth from any nootropic, a little vinpo is going to be a must have addition.

What do you guys reckon?

bushy

I reckon that’s a good question because I don’t have any. Like many others here, this thread has inspired me to experiment with various nootropics. I started with piracetam and choline bitartrate (I add GABA to the mix at night). I just received my aniracetam, inositol, L-Tyrosine and melatonin. I’m trying out the compounds singly and in various combinations in an effort to acheive the best synergistic mix for my personal needs.

I’ll let you know how it goes but I must say that the simple piracetam/choline combo is nothing short of amazing. My almost lifelong (and sometimes debilitating) anxiety-depression cycles have almost completely faded out leaving me in a happy/focused place all day long. I’m solving work problems at light speed.

My writer’s blocks (lyrics used to be such an Achilles’ heel!) have turned into inspired creative sessions. About the only negative (besides spending money) is that I’m sore all the time since my workouts have become so intense. Especially those last reps. Has anyone else noticed this???

My sincere thanks to all (except that moronic tanizaki troll 8^), especially InTheZone and of course, Bushy.

Two questions: 1) Where is the best place to get the vinpo since I don’t see it at BulkNutrition. 2) Has anyone tried adding chromium to their mix?
[/quote]

           Hey good to see you here Kruiser, I just ordered my vinpo at a great price from a place I had seen but not ordered from till bushy gave me a new heads up on it the other day.

Try puritanpride.com. prices are pretty good there. The other place I have used is physicianformulas.com they have excellent quality vitamins bro. Great stuff. They have also had great prices on CoQ10 in the past.

                   cheers,
                    ToneBone

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I was going to say caffeine, but I thought everyone got it, so I didn’t bother.

Damn I want a prize.

Oh wait, I went to phuket last christmas, and I have pretty much a lifetime supply of AAS already, plus I don’t need any sexy GF pics as my own GF now has ‘super-boobs’ due to the trip to phuket!

Sometimes I’m just a smug c*nt :slight_smile:

Bushy[/quote]

Well, you can wipe that smug grin off your face ye c*nt, because if you were the first to answer correctly, the trip to Phuket would have also been redeemable for other options such as an all-expenses paid, first class trip to Vegas with $5,000 worth of playing credit and free beverages all round. OR a skiing trip to the Swiss alps in a romantic chateau getaway…

Not to mention all the Biotest supplements you could poke a stick at!

Bet you’re wishing you’d answered it now!

j/k mate :-P, the smugness is totally justified

[quote]BigRagoo wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
BigRagoo wrote:
JohnnyBlaze wrote:
There is a legal, addictive stimulant drug that has taken the world by storm. Millions of users habitually use this drug every day, and it is taken orally in liquid suspension form, which provides a direct hit straight to the human central nervous system.

After oral administration this drug appears in the blood in about 5 minutes after ingestion. Peak plasma concentrations usually occur in 15-120 minutes after ingestion.

It produces a profound CNS stimulation. Many individuals use it to reduce drowsiness and fatigue, improve mood, alertness and productivity. It increases capacity for sustained intellectual effort with clearer flow of thought.

Doses above 250mg produce nervousness, insomnia, restlessness, and tremors. At higher doses focal and generalized convulsions have been observed.

It is chemically known as 1,3,7-trimethylxanthine.

Look out for it on department store shelves near you.

Caffeine. Do I win??

LOL. Yes, you have won the prize!!! Tell him what he’s won, Johnny!

  • A holiday to Phuket with $5,000 spending money
  • A year’s supply of AAS and PCT goodies OR Biotest supplements
  • Some sexy girlfriend pics

Actually, there never was a prize involved - but you can feel proud of yourself for your astute observation.

:wink:

YEA!!! I won!

Who’s girlfriend’s pictures can I expect? Haha.[/quote]

Mine. Hehehe

(oh wait, I sold the digital camera on ebay… :slight_smile:

Ok so whats the verdit on what one should take to focus and stimulate brain activity? Their were a thousand terms thrown at me and Im sort of confused. I sometimes take my friends 30mg Aderal pills and i can get a weeks homework done in about 4 hours upon taking it.

[quote]Kruiser wrote:
I’ll let you know how it goes but I must say that the simple piracetam/choline combo is nothing short of amazing. My almost lifelong (and sometimes debilitating) anxiety-depression cycles have almost completely faded out leaving me in a happy/focused place all day long. I’m solving work problems at light speed.

My writer’s blocks (lyrics used to be such an Achilles’ heel!) have turned into inspired creative sessions. About the only negative (besides spending money) is that I’m sore all the time since my workouts have become so intense. Especially those last reps. Has anyone else noticed this???

[/quote]

It’s great to hear that the piracetam/choline combo has worked such wonders for you. Wow.

I wouldn’t see the soreness as a negative. Being sore from intense workouts is actually a positive for me; I like the feeling of knowing that I’ve worked as hard as possible at the gym. If I’m not sore, I haven’t blasted my muscles hard enough. It just shows that the muscle tissue is broken down, undergoing hypertrophy. The soreness is caused by microtears in the muscle fibers, which adapt by growing and healing. It’s not caused by lactic acid as was previously thought.

As you get stronger, the body has adapted, the weight you’re lifting no longer works you as hard, the soreness subsides, so you raise the weight until you’re sore the next day again. That’s my philosophy anyway. A productive week for me at the gym, is a week of soreness. See this link for confirmation:
http://www.ironmagazine.com/article118.html

For anyone else who is interested in other nootropics or supplements that combat depression, some of the effective ones are SAMe, 5-HTP ( a serotonin precursor), Picamilon (as mentioned on this page), and also Deprenyl or Tianeptine.

I have some Reboxetine at home as well - tried it but it wasn’t for me. I would’ve sent it to anyone at no charge, except I just checked the box and it expired.

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Well I fianlly got my ‘mega selection’ of nootropics, thanks to customs and their charges.

I have begun the quest for a planetary-sized intelligence and memory by commencing with 1000mg of centrophenoxine.

I have already noticed a mild effect in terms of alertness.

I think I will also pop 500mg of aniracetam too, cos I’m freaky like that :wink:

Now, what do you guys think about vinpocetine as an essential synergyst for nootropics? Since it increases blood supply to the brain, and since all these nootropics first have to make it to the brain before crossing the BBB, then I think that to get your moneys worth from any nootropic, a little vinpo is going to be a must have addition.

What do you guys reckon?

bushy[/quote]

At this rate Bushy, your brain is going to become so far developed that you’ll become a super genius and develop abilities such as telekinesis and psychic powers…

I reckon the vinpo makes sense, I suppose it would improve efficacy, although I wouldn’t think it to be an absolutely necessary part of a stack.

Here is my speculation:

IMO, any nootropics will make it to the brain without vinpo, since the brain holds about 20% of the body’s blood anyway.

Blood flow in a healthy person is 54 milliliters per 1000 grams of brain weight per minute. There are 740 milliliters of blood circulating in the brain every minute. (Love & Webb, 1992)

With vinpo improving cerebral blood flow through its vasodilation effects, you may get an extra couple of ml to the brain, plus more oxygen which increases brain cell energy, and this could make a difference to the amount of nootropic uptake.

But even without vinpo, whatever substance is in the blood stream that is capable of crossing the blood-brain barrier will make it there anyway and still do it’s work.

[quote]JohnnyBlaze wrote:
Tanizaki wrote:
Reread my first post again, brain surgeon. I never said anything about anyone being hard-wired.

You may not have said ‘hard-wired’, but the fact that you were comparing smoking-damaged lungs to drug-impaired cognitive function, draws an implied parallel between the structure of the lung and the structure of the brain. The lung is a fixed structure with multiple passageways and tubes. I was debunking your comparison. The neuronal circuits within the brain are not fixed in the same way as the bronchi and bronchioles within the lungs.

That having been said, if you were familiar with neuroplasticity, you would know that it has only been observed in the hippocampi and the olfactory area of the brain. You might have learned that if you had sources above medterms.com

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, wooooohaaaaa. You ripped that straight from Wikipedia, I know because I found the sentence where it says that. Sure, there’s nothing wrong with a bit of plagiarism in the forum, as this is not a full-on academic environment. Everyone does it from time to time.

The only thing is, you did not comprehend the information correctly- it says “The evidence for neurogenesis is restricted to the hippocampus and olfactory bulb.” Not neuroplasticity. Ooops, huh? Somebody made a big booboo.

If you’re going to rip information off the net, at least make sure you understand what it means and get the facts straight before presenting them. It looks pretty bad when you’re trying to act of superior intellect and make a major mistake like that.

It just shows that you don’t really understand what neuroplasticity is. I just mentioned a whole paragraph, referenced to a perfectly credible source, where it says that an entire hemisphere can take on the functions of a damaged hemisphere by forming new connections through the ability of neuroplasticity, and you go and say that neuroplasticity only occurs in the hippocampus/olfactory area - mixing up the term with neurogenesis. Sorry, but that is LAME.

If neuroplasticity, the ability to adapt and change, were limited to only two areas of the entire brain, how do you think that thinking, learning and acting on novel information would even be able to occur? We’d be just like factory assembly robots, and would unable to change, or adapt to different circumstances and new environments or learn new languages.

Eat any good books lately?

Books? Don’t get me started on books. I’m one of those individuals who actually reads for FUN. You have no idea how many books I have read. I eat books for breakfast. When I was a kid, I used to read the encyclopaedia just for kicks.

You may wish to review, among others:

Adult neuron survival strategies - slamming on the brakes. SC Benn and CJ Woolf. (2004)
A Role for HSP27 in Sensory Neuron Survival. Lewis, Mannion, et al. (1999)
What is the functional role of adult neurogenesis in the hippocampus? Wiscott, Rasch, et al. (2004) (this one has some particularly good passages summarizing neurogenetic research in general.

Now, not all of this might be available free online. You might actually have to go to a library.

Now, what’s the bet that you just googled for books on “neurogenesis”, or did a search on a library site with your student account and posted up a few relevant titles, to make yourself sound all superior and book-learned? I was asking for specific passages WITH the reference - not just a list of references. References are not evidence.

Anyway - As if I’d go to a library and start pulling up books, just to participate in an online debate with some random anonymous dude on the internet? I save the effort of real research for more important things. What I can find on the internet is sufficient to deal with the likes of you.

Please see above regarding the limited nature of neurogenesis. The brain and lungs have very limited reparative abilities, and the brain’s have only been observed in two areas, as I have already named.

I’ve already pointed out your mistake above. Neurogenesis isn’t the only mechanism by which the brain can adapt to new stimuli or repair any damaged functions. Not just that, but neurogenesis can also occur in the caudate nucleus.

Even FURTHER more, in your first post, you criticized a man for thinking that possible deterioration of his brain cells could be repaired after marijuana use, saying that “marijuana mostly affects areas for memory formation and retention”, and that there is nothing he can do to restore it. Guess which area of the brain is responsible for memory formation and retention? The hippocampus. So now you are contradicting yourself by pointing out neurogenesis occurs there and that the brain does have reparative abilities in the area.

Research is even showing that new neurons in the hippocampus DO survive when new skills are learned. For them to be incorporated into the brain, they become connected to other neurons, and begin to receive support in the form of blood and nutrients.

Lastly, calling me “Sherlock” doesn’t work because he was a detective, not a doctor or even a scientist. You should have tried calling me something like “Quincy” or “Dr. Cliff Huxtable”. Do you like Coke, Kodak film, and Jell-O pudding pops?

I don’t know how clued on you are, but as you should be able to observe, I am not American. I am not familiar with “Quincy” or Jell-O pudding pops.

Sherlock was the first thing that came to mind, and in my opinion it fit perfectly fine. Holmes made deductions and presented them to others as elementary. That is what you have been doing here as well. Except, at least Holmes was correct with his deductions - I called you Sherlock in a tongue-in-cheek way because unlike him, the things you deduce and present as elementary facts are not correct.

The blunders you have made here on this site show that you are not the sharpest tool in the shed, no matter how intellectually superior you try to make yourself out to be. You are just a tool - in the slang sense of the word.[/quote]

ahhahahahahaha!!! I LOVE IT!!

JohnnyB, I would like to shake your hand mate.

Quite possibly the greatest intellectual ass-kickin of a troll I have ever seen on this site. Kudos to you my man…you really handed that plagiarist intellectual-wannabee’s ass to him.

Tanizaki is probably in the process of creating a new username at this moment.

Fantastic thread by the way…just wandered into it now.

I have always loved MOdafinil. It is my version of a “morning coffee”…200mg works good for me with 400mg being REALLY good…although it can sometimes cause me insomnia. The 400mg dose can be expensive though…expecially since I can no longer get the raw powder from china ultra-cheap. Workin on it though. With Moda I feel much more alert, confident and WAY more motivated. On higher doses I get a massive thirst for knowledge and literally jump onto amazon.com and order all sorts of books on random subjects I would never usually be interested in or have the motivation to read (I just have to take another large dose to actually read them though…lol)

Tried piracetam…never got much out of it to be honest.I will likely try the oxiracetam now that this thread has reignited my interest in the subject.

I reckon I may try a stack like the one bushy outlined earlier.

Is anyone else really looking forward to the arrival of ampakines, such as CX717??? Stuff seems like it is set to take the cognitive enhancement world by storm!