For people who live outside the U.S. ( I live in Australia), ordering products from the U.S., what method of shipping do you use? The price varies considerably.
Great thread. I am going to start with some Vinpo.
I feel I have had good results with Vinpocetine, but I may try some of the others suggested above.
I also feel the elimination and/or reduction of artificial sweetners (especially sucralose) helped lift that fog that had come over me lately. I felt I had AADD since I would be in meetings and loose track of the subject…not good.
An open question to the followers of this thread. . .
Has anyone here had some experience with RI for ordering noops? There are a few reasons that I ask this. For one I would like to know if anyone has experienced any fraudulent charges after ordering from them. The other reason is I am somewhat curious as to where they are based out of.
The backstory to this is that I made a purchace from them on Thursday. Today, my bank account was cleared out with fraudlient charges. I don’t normally conduct much buisness online (last time was 8mos ago). It appears to be too much of a coincidence to me. Anyway, I look forward to any responces people may have.
Peace,
An open question to the followers of this thread. . .
Has anyone here had some experience with RI for ordering noops? There are a few reasons that I ask this. For one I would like to know if anyone has experienced any fraudulent charges after ordering from them. The other reason is I am somewhat curious as to where they are based out of.
The backstory to this is that I made a purchace from them on Thursday. Today, my bank account was cleared out with fraudlient charges. I don’t normally conduct much buisness online (last time was 8mos ago). It appears to be too much of a coincidence to me. Anyway, I look forward to any responces people may have.
Peace,
The timing of the fraud charges are probably just a coincidence. Last year right before Christmas, someone had used a fake ATM card to empty my checking account…and I was always careful, never lost my card and never used it to make purchases at gas stations, etc. I only used ATMs at my banks’ branches. And yet somehow someone got my ATM and PIN #s. The bank reimbursed me after a month long investigation, but right after that I moved my money to another bank.
[quote]FishorLift wrote:
I feel I have had good results with Vinpocetine, but I may try some of the others suggested above.
I also feel the elimination and/or reduction of artificial sweetners (especially sucralose) helped lift that fog that had come over me lately. I felt I had AADD since I would be in meetings and loose track of the subject…not good.[/quote]
I would say the second logical step would be DMAE.
Just make sure to find a quality company to purchase from.
That is, given you already take creatine, Vitamin D3 and Fish Oil. Those are the essentials.
[quote]D3HT09 wrote:
I have just ordered some Phenylpiracetam [/quote]
Forgive my ignorance, but what is the difference between this and regular old piracetam
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Wise Guy wrote:
FishorLift wrote:
I feel I have had good results with Vinpocetine, but I may try some of the others suggested above.
I also feel the elimination and/or reduction of artificial sweetners (especially sucralose) helped lift that fog that had come over me lately. I felt I had AADD since I would be in meetings and loose track of the subject…not good.
I would say the second logical step would be DMAE.
Just make sure to find a quality company to purchase from.
That is, given you already take creatine, Vitamin D3 and Fish Oil. Those are the essentials.
And lets not forget B complex too.
BBB[/quote]
Good call bushy
My current standard stack is:
*caffeine
*D3
*creatine
*fish oil
*vinpo
*centro
Intermittently, I add in Power Drive, or oxi
I’m thinking about quitting caffeine and adding in Caffeine-Free Spike.
Question: I’ve had good experiences with Spike in the past - but never on top of vinpo/centro. Anyone have any positive or negative experiences with that?
Also, just curious: I haven’t visited this thread in a long time; reading quickly through the most recent posts, it doesn’t seem like Spike figures very prominently in people’s noop stacks these days. Pray, tell, why?
~katz
[quote]katzenjammer wrote:
My current standard stack is:
*caffeine
*D3
*creatine
*fish oil
*vinpo
*centro
Intermittently, I add in Power Drive, or oxi
I’m thinking about quitting caffeine and adding in Caffeine-Free Spike.
Question: I’ve had good experiences with Spike in the past - but never on top of vinpo/centro. Anyone have any positive or negative experiences with that?
Also, just curious: I haven’t visited this thread in a long time; reading quickly through the most recent posts, it doesn’t seem like Spike figures very prominently in people’s noop stacks these days. Pray, tell, why?
~katz
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i take Caffeine-Free Spike. not every day though, just if i need an extra mental alertness boost. what was wrong with taking Spike (regular or caff free) with vinpo/centro? i take it with my vinpo and DMAE and do fine… also when i take Caffeine-Free Spike i get motivated. not like i have energy motivation but like motivation that lasts a couple days.
The mention of halting intake of artificial sweeteners earlier brought up a point for me. I notice that when I’m drinking Crystal Light very often I get foggy and have trouble with my concentration. I was drinking my noops mixed in with Crystal Light, so now I’m suspecting that I was negating my efforts with it. Is that possible, or should I look elsewhere?
Many years ago I developed a bad habit of drinking a six pack of diet soda every day…when my speech started slurring occasionally I started to cut back, and I thankfully returned to normal.
Regarding choline and B vitamins for use when taking vinpo:
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How much choline should I be taking and how should I take it? (e.g. w/ or w/o food)
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What form(s) of choline should I use? I have seen choline citrate for cheap, but bitartrate referenced here.
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Is the full spectrum of B vitamins more important when taking Vinpo, or simply patethine (derived from B5, pantothenic acid) ?
Thanks!
Hello Folks,
Today was my first day with Phenylpiracetam.
I awoke at my usual time and had the usual breakfast (eggs, ham, orange juice, plain oatmeal). This was followed by my usual fish oil and vitamin D. Along with this I took 100mg of Phenylpiracetam (the smallest dose I can take, as it is 1 cap).
Initial observations
I don’t know how fast this stuff is “supposed” to kick in, but I felt a tad light headed 20 mins after ingestion.
40 minutes after ingestion, I feel a slight bump in energy. This is one of the reasons that I chose Phenylpiracetam over the other cheaper, and easier to find versions. I have read that the Phenyl- provides an actual stimulant effect. The slight light headedness has passed at this time.
60 minutes post ingestion and my muscles feel tension free. I normally carry tension in my muscles (from stress and lifting), and I guess I have gotten used to it. This feels a litle strange as I am not used to not carrying this tension around.
At around this time I had to jump right into the wonderful politics that dominate my job. I was a little leery of what to expect from the new chemical in my system. Well. . .I had the group rolling in laughter. This in of itself is sort of out of character for me. At work, I’m all buisness. When I do get people lauging, it is usually a select few that can appreciate my dry sense of humor. I felt more like I was “switched on” upstairs.
It is now 5 hours post ingestion, and I think things have passed. Overall the effects were mild. If I can compare this to my favorite of Adrafinil, it does not appear to provide as much of a stimulant or nootropic effect (even though Adrafinil is not classified as a “true” nootropic). I think that I will try a dose of 200mg tomorrow. This will either be 200 at once, or 100 after breakfast, and another 100 2 hours later.
If anyone has comments, questions or suggestions, please let me know.
Peace,
What would you say is the minimum amount of time between cetam dosages? Is it alright to take 2.5 hours apart, or is that more of a person to person thing?
[quote]D3HT09 wrote:
I think that I will try a dose of 200mg tomorrow. This will either be 200 at once, or 100 after breakfast, and another 100 2 hours later.
If anyone has comments, questions or suggestions, please let me know.
Peace,
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Cool, thanks for the report.
Whats the max daily dosage you can use?