Has anybody purchased a good batch of Phenibut recently? I used to order the powder from BulkNutrition and it was great… but they’ve changed the formula (taste and consistency is different and effects diminished. I tried the caps offered there as well and they’re no better.
Any suggestions for an alternative brand/source?
I should add that the other Phenibut brands I’ve tried and been disappointed in are UniqueNutrition and Primaforce - both capsules. I couldn’t believe how amazing my first couple of batches from BN.com were, so I’m willing to try just about everything. Anyone tried the phenibut from www.phenibut.net?
Whats the word on vasopressin or desmopressin?
Has anyone given these a fair shot?
Also, if you combine oxi , ani, pira…do you get a super racetam? or atleast better than 1 alone?
and is Adrafinil the generic brand of Adderall?
If anyone could answer these than I would be much obliged.
Adrafinil (brand name: Olmifon) is unrelated to ampetamine (brand name: Adderall); it is instead a precursor to modafinil.
On the first question: combining drugs that work by the exact same mechanism of action, when that is the case as it may well be here, usually is of no value compared to taking an appropriate dose of whichever one works best for the individual.
anyone here have any issues with nootropics not working together? more specifically, taking something that blunts the effects of l-tyrosine?
i’ve read that tyrosine should not be taking with any other amino acids, and am wordering if ALCAR and choline are included as well. i’ve compined tyrosine with caffeien, and combined it with the aforementioned nottrpics with less of an effect.
perhaps nootropics that are cholergenic and nootropics that are dopaminergenic should not be combined??
So, in response to the mention of Vinpocetine from Bulk Nutrition and Primaforce-
What are some good places to get some quality Vinpo?
I did notice little improvement from the Phenibut that I bought there. Disappointing, actually. Naturally, no one wants to spend money on a poor product when something better is likely available. I did buy from Anti-Aging systems… got some Hydergine. I imagine that the effects are more preserving than improving for the most part based on what I’ve read.
I do take bodyquick, and I do recommend the warning that basically says NO CAFFEINE while taking it. I blew that off and drank some coffee. Basically, I had an overload experience. It is impossible to think straight when you’re that stimulated.
A question for the Aniracetam users: based on your experiences, is it better to consistently take it at a certain time daily, or is it better to use it only before intense concentration/study periods? I ask because I was taking it consistently during morning work sessions where I was multi-tasking and jumping from task to task like an ADD patient (I work in an ultra-chaotic environment) and suddenly switched over to an afternoon-only usage habit for when I’ve already put in a difficult day and needed to focus on studies (included Oxi with this period). I’ve put off the usage for my irregular study periods or times of pre-planned concentration-heavy work times.
Now, since I have resorted to irregular usage, I really don’t know if it has lost it’s usefulness since I tend to get the impression that consistency may be necessary. Am I correct, or has your experience shown differently? I really have no insight since every day that I work is an ass-kicker and very draining.
That last sentence opens up a new question: Does Vinpo or any other nootropic seem to make days easier to cruise through and perhaps provide a better adaptation to mental stress? Do you ever have those days that seem to bend the fabric of time to give you a week’s worth of stress in only 10 hours? You ever feel like you want to pepper-spray people for even thinking about dropping one more “super-duper-critically-important-top-priority” task that is supposedly just as important as every other high-priority no-fail task that needs to get done this very instant?
Yeah, part of that is just some venting but I still wanted to ask about those supps and your experiences. I also feel like I’m asking for a miracle too.
i dint real this entire thing, so if this has been mentioned then never mind.
i just think its worth telling everyone
Dosage: 800mg to 5000 mg per day often taken with 350 mg to 2000mg choline.
choline supplementation is suggested to maintain adequate levels of acetylcholine which piracetam seems to lower. The effects of this depletion in some users are headaches.
Effects: immediate effects include mild stimulation and added vividness to mental imagery. Some users report increased mental activity during sleep. Longer term effects include increasingly vivid memory, rich dreams, overall improvement in motivation.
Contraindications(side effects): while the majority of users report benefits to ADD symptoms, some report enhancement of distracting thoughts. Without choline supplemention some users report mild headaches. when taken in the morning, some users report significant drops in blood sugar by mid afternoon resulting in sleepiness.
Drug Combinations: Reports indicate that piracetam significantly potentiates the effects of alcohol, weed and caffeine.
THIS SHIT ROCKS… first off, lemme say ive done my fair share of supplements and this by far blows them all out the door.
within my first 4 days of usage, my cognitive abilities have already made an improvement, things like the vocabulary i use when talking, my short term memory seems to have improved twofold. On the way home from work yesterday i was remembering license plates from multiple cars back that i had just passed (i was playing a memory game if that makes sense to see if i could notice a difference) And my mental clarity has improved twofold.
The best part is you can buy 700grams (over a years worth of supply) for under 20 dollars shipped.
I think its insane that this isnt used more or more popular in the states, its pretty big over in the uk as you can find it just about anywhere over the counter. but who needs this shit when you have alpazoram or or adderall.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Oxiracetam
Do a search on pubmed.
Good luck with the classes mate.
Bushy[/quote]
Rolipram also looks promising
ell’ good luck dude
[quote]djoh615893 wrote:
So, in response to the mention of Vinpocetine from Bulk Nutrition and Primaforce-
What are some good places to get some quality Vinpo?
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Couple more days on the labor day sale (buy 1 get 2 free) from Puritan’s Pride. I picked up 6 bottles of Vinpo from there, I usually use BN, but I got a bunch of other stuff at puritan that I needed restocked on.
Now then. I’m a first time poster, long time reader (two days on this thread).
I’ve spent the last couple of days reading this thread about brain boosters and based on the 42 pages of zealotry I think it would be worth my while to join the Nootropic Collective.
Basically, I’m starting college tomorrow and I know from past experiences that my mind starts to wander after an hour or so of revision. I also go through mid morning tiredness / lazy afternoon syndrome.
Anyway, what it boils down to is that I want to dip my toe in Lake Nootropic and I was thinking of giving Vinpocetine and Choline a try first. As I am new to this game I am unaware of which website are trusted for UK buyers. Can somebody point me in the right direction, as I’m sick of being pinky and want to be the brain for a change!
Sorry If I’ve babbled on, but thanks in advance guys!
there is always amphetamine but…its catabolic and extremely addictive …I can attest to that 
Cheers Bushy, I will order some tonight!
[quote]AlteredState wrote:
cycobushmaster wrote:
anyone here have any issues with nootropics not working together? more specifically, taking something that blunts the effects of l-tyrosine?
i’ve read that tyrosine should not be taking with any other amino acids, and am wordering if ALCAR and choline are included as well. i’ve compined tyrosine with caffeien, and combined it with the aforementioned nottrpics with less of an effect.
perhaps nootropics that are cholergenic and nootropics that are dopaminergenic should not be combined??
I don’t think that it has so much to do with chol. Vs dopa. since these different actions should serve to create a synergistic effect.
I think it probably has more to do with absorbtion and transmission across the GIT wall.[/quote]
hmmm…that makes sense. maybe my doses are just way too low as well…