Well it looks vinpocetine has been triggering migraines for me lately, so I’m going to have to take a break from it. Been taking around 30mg/day on and off for a few months. It may not be the vinpo itself causing the migraines and headaches, but the weather, allergies, and sinuses with vinpo just potentiating it all. Anyone else have this problem?
Nope, current sups are
-Multi
-Fish Oil
-Rez V
-ZMA
-Creatine
And not a supp, but nasacort in the morning
All on a regular basis. Vinpo is BN brand, 10mg dose 3x day. I haven’t exactly been consistent with the dosing tho, with some days only taking 10mg in the morning and forgetting later doses and sometimes not taking it at all.
Not sure if the inconstancy should cause a problem tho. I’m a bit disappointed b/c I’m not getting much out of only 10 or 20mg but if the migraines continue I’ll have to drop it.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Headhunter wrote:
Wow, I can’t believe how good Vinpo makes me feel! Calm, clearheaded, happy,…wow!
Will this feeling last or does it level off? If it were to level off right here, I’d build a shrine to Vinpo and the guys who invented it!
That is excellent news my friend!
The beauty of vinpo in my eyes is that no one ‘invented’ it. It is a naturally occuring alkaloid, extracted and refined from the vinca minor plant (‘periwinkle’, I believe.
How many more such natural benefits are out there, we may never know, because who pays for the research? Not ‘big pharma’, since they can’t patent natural products, and make money from them exclusively.
Bushy[/quote]
Has anyone else tried Gotu Kola? Just started experimenting with it for memory enhancement. Seemed to give me a calm focus for 10 hours-12 hours yesterday with a slower heart rate. Took it this morning with Vinpo. Any thoughts?
Has anyone else tried Gotu Kola? Just started experimenting with it for memory enhancement. Seemed to give me a calm focus for 10 hours-12 hours yesterday with a slower heart rate. Took it this morning with Vinpo. Any thoughts?
I have never heard of it before, but the effects sound similar to bacopa monnieri.
Alas, I just don’t have the resources at present to experiment further.
Bushy[/quote]
Yeah, after reading about bacopa, it is similar. I read one study in Pubmed that gotu kola has AChE inhibitor activity similar to huperzine. For me the effect is stronger than with hupA. I will try the 2 together as an experiment. Regarding the gotu with vinpo I took this morning, I felt alert but very calm, maybe a little light-headed though. My physical reactions and reflexes were very fast! I will keep experimenting…
Ok some I’m orderiing my geran NOW! This thread is one of the few reliable resources for quality information I look to everyday! Keep up the good work all! Oh and Rowesk I saw you mentioned something about Britain’s decent into madness…any country that storms it’s metros for an all out drinking party to piss off their government sounds pretty sane to me!
I finally got my vinpo in yesterday. I can really tell it makes a difference in alertness, and focus. It also seemed to give me tunnel vision as well (not sure this is a plus).
Here is my current regiment during the week. I drop almost everything on the weekend right now.
centro 500mg
huprezine 10mg
vinpo 10 mg 2x a day
piracetam 900mg 2x a day
I start class at the end of the month i am looking forward to seeing how this goes.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Are you definite about that HupA dose?
My caps are 50mcg. I take 2 per day which equals 100mcg or 0.1mg.
If you are taking 10mg, then that is 100 times my own dose level.
Bushy[/quote]
Oops! your right. I don’t have the bottle in front of me. LOL I guess the memory hasn’t kicked in yet!
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
jakshafter wrote:
bushidobadboy wrote:
Are you definite about that HupA dose?
My caps are 50mcg. I take 2 per day which equals 100mcg or 0.1mg.
If you are taking 10mg, then that is 100 times my own dose level.
Bushy
Oops! your right. I don’t have the bottle in front of me. LOL I guess the memory hasn’t kicked in yet!
OK, so what is the dose you are taking?
Bushy[/quote]
50-100 mcg a day depending on the suitation. Due to the long half life i don’t take this on the weekend though.
Either the Vinpo or the Oxi is making me drowsy Now. Other than caffeine, is there some solution besides reducing the dose? Or is the drowsiness an indicator to reduce the dose, to get the optimum effects?
Just ordered some Hydergine, btw. Looking forward to that. Any dosage recomms? I weigh 270.
Oxi makes me tired, about an hour or so after it kicks in. This seems to be the general consensus too, so save it for when you really need to study hard 
Couldn’t tell you owt about the hydergine, but am looking into PEA and a MAO-B inhibitor, myself… Anyone any thoughs? Bush?
-Rowesk
Edit: What the frick do you teach? At 270 I bet you have no problems intimidating the little feckers into shape, eh!
I would like to spend under 100 a month on these type of supplements (Although I can spend more, what do you think would be the best stack, I have an idea, but would like to see how it compares.) I am a student and it is for classes and what not mainly.
Under $100 US? Easy peasy!
Vinpo ~$24
Huperzine A ~ $9 for 2 months supply @ 100mcg ed
DMAE ~$12 400mg ed
Oxiracetam 25g ~$20 lasts me two months at least…
Aniracetam ~$15
That’s a grand total of $65.50 per month! And you could get away with not taking half the stuff on that list. Most notably the oxi and ani, especially if it’s not ‘exam season’.
Go forth and learn with the assistance of chemicals, young one!
-Rowesk
Ha, much appreciated. I’ve found a couple sites, and just wanted to know if perhaps you had one you preferred. If there is any referral type program for you I will gladly put your name down.
I have been looking for an alternative to alcohol so I gave Phenibut a shot.
I went off an reccomendation from a guy on BN’s forum to use 7.5 grams to reach euphoria. I took 6 grams instead… which I still think was way too much.
(note: I was already tired before I took this==bad idea)
took it at 7 15
started kicking in around 9
I was definately feeling the “drunkness”…I was very impaired. I decided to play lumosity.com to see if my brain was still there.
scored 9740 and 1040 (tied record) on speed match.
Than played lost in migration- scored 5925. So even though I felt slow and unintelligent, I wasnt. During this whole time, my eyelids were very heavy. My body was telling me to go to sleep but I was waiting on some friends to go out.
Needless to say, I fell asleep at 10 45 and woke up at 2 the next day…still very much tired…still can sleep alot.
I have heard much about the bad hangover that you get from a 1 gram or more. And let me tell you–this is pretty tame. No headache, no icky feelings, …just tired.
I definately have to try this stuff out when I am not already drowsy to get an accurate description.
I wish!
bulknutrition and bodybuilding.com are the places i shop. With a small amount of research you’ll find some of the prices off: i.e. vinpo - forgot to mention, thats $24 on vinpo and not for one tub.
Bit of foot in mouth there, just buy two tubs from BN Same with DMAE, except from BB.
Enjoy.
-Rowesk