[quote]roweski wrote:
JK,
He answers half of your question there: “I use citrate.”
I do too, or did before i ran out. Taking it with the racetams isn’t essential but, in simple terms, it lubricates the neural ‘slides’ so that the -racetams can go as fast as possible/most efficiently into the ‘thought’ pool
If you want to get the most from your -racetams, i suggest AT LEAST a gram of choline citrate every day…
-Rowesk[/quote]
I just ordered some ani and oxi and centro, I have vinpo and huperzine. I guess I should take all of these in the am, but the vinpo I will divide 10mgs 3x/day. Should the 1 gram of choline be added in the am too?
i do suffer from migraines and wonder if i got one in result of taking either the 5-htp yesterday or the brane octane?
do you think either one could cause a migraine the next day after taking them,(constricting blood vessels?) as oppsed to what you have said regarding healing ones migraine with 5-htp?
“Thus adding more seratonin should effectively reduce any symptoms associated with your ailement.”
maybe the 5-htp added a lot of seratonin and today my levels dropped alot?
Edit: Not sure of when to take to maximise absorbtion, but i always threw 2g in my ‘wake-up’ shake, then took the oxi about 20 minutes later after a shower. Seemed to work well enough…[/quote]
What is this “wake up shake”?
I have been taking phosphatidyl serine because I read it is good to take post workout. Is this similar to the choline?
i would suspect the brain octane and its many ingredients were at hand, or even perhaps a synergism between taking both for the first time that caused a bad reaction. only way to find out is to stop one and see if the condition persists.
rusty,
thanks but yeah after this migraine, (one of the worst i have ever had!)
i will have to try just the 5-htp and only take brain octane when i am studying!!
Ido suffer from migraines, actually a disability rating from the military. And sometimes they are bad! I always get them with an aura, and cannot see for a long time. It then hurts for 3-4 hours or all day long.
I still have a bit of a risidual from yesterdays, and it hurts to cough and bend over.
I guess i should have mentioned it. I cannot take beta aline due to the fact it says not to if you have migraines and i wonder if maybe i should not take other stuff?
any suggestions from you on stuff i should not take?
row,
, yeah beta alanine(new creatine type stuff @ Biotest)
i just re-edited my post and added what happends when i get one!
it usually hurts only 1 whole half of my head at a time, behind one eye(which ever side the migraine is on) then i get narrowed vision, and spots on that side, and i get dizzy, and nauseas (sp) i almost barfed yesterday! And i have to go to a dark room and try to sleep, and take some stuff.
I am on meds for migraines but they make me so drowsy that i only take excedrin maigrane, and not the meds.
i used to take imitrex and now it is zomig(only taken zomig 1 time due to the sleepy effect)
may have to ask the doc for new stuff that does not cause drowsyness.
I do not know if it is vessels? I guess so because the one yesterday i can feel a pounding in 1 location and it is about 2-3 inches in length. Probably a vessel?
and i could not cough, and bend over. Still have to bend slowly and coughing hurts a bit.
No your not being a prick row, its cool, i have just read and re-read this stuff so many times!! That there is so much info that i get confused with it all!!
The thing i would be concerned about with opening up vessels… is when the stuff wears off and the vessels close, or go back to normal.
i think this may be what happened to me?
I took the brain octane and the 5-htp and it may have opened everything up and closed and constricted the vessels in the right side of my head?
i will try it and let you guys know what happends!!
I have ordered ani and oxi and was going to get some choline as suggested but I realized I am already taking “PS”, just wondered if I should still get the choline.
A while ago I posted that I had some side effects with taking Huperzine. I said that I had flu like aches when I started trying it. Um, well, IT WAS THE FLU. All better now.
Sorry.
I am snappy a lot of times and do not know why? It seems as though nothing makes me happy? on the other hand i have a hard time getting out of bed some days and getting anything done around our house, such as projects and stuff.
I just want to be able to get up and start working on the house, and finishing things i start (especially my diet and excercise) and have a great attitude about everything!
I just want to interject here and say…what a great thread!! Thanks to all who have contributed! This is the premier source for this stuff as far as I can tell because everybody here is testing this stuff in the field.
Let me add my own experiences:
Both Huperzine A and Vinpo gave me headaches. I am now convinced it was the dosage. These guys are not joking when they say you should increment dosages slowly!
I concur with almost everybody else that Modafinil is the shit. I was surprised to find, however, that I reacted better to some brands than others (even though marketed as the same thing). Maybe somebody has had similar experiences.
My brain supps are on the way so I look forward to contributing to this awesome thread.
