Hi, i’m pretty new to nootropics, i’ve only tried Anaricetam so far but to be be honest I didn’t really feel anything, it also seemed to make me a bit anxious too.
I really want to give a stack a try but nootropics don’t seem very popular in the UK at the moment, i’ve even thought of buying in bulk and selling on ebay.Can anyone in the UK recommend a place to order from?
Cheers
[quote]Wooderson wrote:
Hi, i’m pretty new to nootropics, i’ve only tried Anaricetam so far but to be be honest I didn’t really feel anything, it also seemed to make me a bit anxious too.
I really want to give a stack a try but nootropics don’t seem very popular in the UK at the moment, i’ve even thought of buying in bulk and selling on ebay.Can anyone in the UK recommend a place to order from?
Cheers[/quote]
I placed an order with nootropichub. They came through, although I cannot give feedback on quality as I haven’t tried the products yet. Seems legit stuff though.
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
so been taking vinpo for about 2 weeks now and, i dont know if they’re related, i’ve started getting random sharps pains in the top of my head. just an inch or two left of the crown. the pain is under the skull, it feels like…
i also take stims pre workout but this only started recently. has any one else had this happen with vinpo?[/quote]
Just to cover the basics: magnesium deficiency is widespread, I found taking mag reduced frequency intensity and duration of my headaches.
Vinpo gave me no headaches, but Hup A I cannot take w/o getting a headache; biochemical individuality…
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
Other supps I’m on now are:
Pyritinol
Magnesium Glycinate before bedtime
Vitamin B3 before bedtime
The occasional dose of caffeine[/quote]
I make sure to restrict caffeine to the morning (although the song “caffeine” by FNM is good anytime).
Niacin (B3) I find is better for me in the afternoon than at night (other b-complex in morning or will keep me up).
[quote]MAF14 wrote:
[quote]Barret wrote:
2) Has any of you observed any differences between taking the stack (Ani+vinpo+choline) with a liquid meal (containing fat) rather than a solid meal?
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x2 I usually take the majority of my BFB’s with fish oil/whey/fiber but ive been wondering…[/quote]
The mechanical act of chewing sends a signal to the digestive system to prepare for new arrivals; if no chewing, when food shows up, the GI is like “wtf?”.
Finally got the chem marks back, I got 77%, class average was 59%.
Again, I’m surprised b/c I thought I probably did worse than that.
Got a biology midterm tomorrow, I’ll know later this week how I did on that and will post again.
I’m really liking alpha GPC as a choline source, best I’ve ever tried, besides egg yolks. It also seems to have some anti-anxiety effects. Tried DMAE, CDP choline, choline chloride, choline bitartrate, citicholine, TMG and nothing else worked. Of course I stack it with other things: vinpo, piracetam, etc.
Got an 80% on the second bio mid term.
Anyone have problems focusing while on this stuff? I feel like I have a lot of energy and can do things fast but when I try to sit down and focus and learn something I have trouble. ex: Like I can read really fast but can’t necessarily absorb the info because my brain can’t keep up with that level of energy or something like that.
On Centro 3 x 1g a day, aniracetam 2 x 750mg a day, vinpocetine 10-20mg 3 times a day.
Tweak your stack.
[quote]Jeffrey of Troy wrote:
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
Other supps I’m on now are:
Pyritinol
Magnesium Glycinate before bedtime
Vitamin B3 before bedtime
The occasional dose of caffeine[/quote]
I make sure to restrict caffeine to the morning (although the song “caffeine” by FNM is good anytime).
Niacin (B3) I find is better for me in the afternoon than at night (other b-complex in morning or will keep me up).[/quote]
Do you have your Niacin with that B-complex? If not, any particular reason you it’s better in the afternoon for you?
I take it in the evening for relaxation.
On another note, I’ve found that taking magnesium glycinate 400mg in the evening makes me very groggy the morning after. I thought it was just initially but after having done it for 4 weeks I still felt it more difficult to get up and going in the morning and a bigger desire to just stay in bed and sleep…
[quote]Grimlorn wrote:
Anyone have problems focusing while on this stuff? I feel like I have a lot of energy and can do things fast but when I try to sit down and focus and learn something I have trouble. ex: Like I can read really fast but can’t necessarily absorb the info because my brain can’t keep up with that level of energy or something like that.
On Centro 3 x 1g a day, aniracetam 2 x 750mg a day, vinpocetine 10-20mg 3 times a day. [/quote]
Yes. Then again I’d have that problem anyway. I’m usually too tired in my brain to be able to concentrate properly. And when I do have the energy I want to do other and all things simultaneously.
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
[quote]Jeffrey of Troy wrote:
[quote]L-Dee wrote:
Other supps I’m on now are:
Pyritinol
Magnesium Glycinate before bedtime
Vitamin B3 before bedtime
The occasional dose of caffeine[/quote]
I make sure to restrict caffeine to the morning (although the song “caffeine” by FNM is good anytime).
Niacin (B3) I find is better for me in the afternoon than at night (other b-complex in morning or will keep me up).[/quote]
Do you have your Niacin with that B-complex? If not, any particular reason you it’s better in the afternoon for you?
I take it in the evening for relaxation.
On another note, I’ve found that taking magnesium glycinate 400mg in the evening makes me very groggy the morning after. I thought it was just initially but after having done it for 4 weeks I still felt it more difficult to get up and going in the morning and a bigger desire to just stay in bed and sleep…[/quote]
B-complex in morning, otherwise would interfere w/ sleep; actually, I only take it every other day, if every day it gives me a headache (I think by raising histamine).
I have tried niacin after lunch and after dinner, find after lunch is better for me; awake til bedtime, sleep well.
re: magnesium. Could be that form doesn’t agree with you (biochemical individuality); or, it could indicate you are chronically sleep deprived.
Advice needed. What could possible be the problem?
Started with Piracetam, Ani, choline bitar.
Switched to Ani, Vinpo, DMAE.
Dropped vinpo and DMAE added in Oxi for intense study sessions and citicholine.
Citicholine made me crazy - like really aggressive but it took awhile for me to see this. Just got a C on my last Organic Chemistry test which should not be possible- I studied 5hrs a day for a week, but took the test crazy jacked up on oxi, caffeine, and citi). Now I need and A on this last test to get one for the semester.
I’m back on pir, ani and choline bitartrate but honestly I’m forgetting stuff all the time and not really seeing any benefit from it like before.I read journal articles all day Sunday and Monday morning - bam could barely remember them- actually would say slight impairment from w/o noots. I was considering buying pramiracetam but here is what I have on hand:
400g Piracetam
75g Oxiracetam
30g Aniracetam
DMAE
Choline bitar
Alpha GPC
fish oil
pyritinol
I have 1 week till my next exam and I am willing to do whatever it takes. If anyone can help me I would be forever in your debt.
I know how to study for Orgo- its not the material that is getting me - its the fact that I can have a really great study session but will forget the tricks I learned the next day.
Don’t take oxi for tests, it’s a stim.
Also, study small, practice recall.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I find it works best if I take lots of smaller study sessions, with frequent breaks, not one mahooosive sitting where i try to cram as much in as possible.
BBB[/quote]
But is my lack of sharpness that I previously had attained with nootropics now due to an inferior choline source? I just wish I got the results from Oxi that you described back in BFB 1.0. I’m going to try Ani with alpha gpc today and see what happens. Otherwise I’m going back to DMAE.
[quote]NuRhoPsi wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I find it works best if I take lots of smaller study sessions, with frequent breaks, not one mahooosive sitting where i try to cram as much in as possible.
BBB[/quote]
But is my lack of sharpness that I previously had attained with nootropics now due to an inferior choline source? I just wish I got the results from Oxi that you described back in BFB 1.0. I’m going to try Ani with alpha gpc today and see what happens. Otherwise I’m going back to DMAE.
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Citicholine too made me “crazy”…heart pounding anxiety…seems alpha GPC has opposite effect…calm clear head and no anxiety…but you may have to experiment with correct dosage for yourself
[quote]middleageguy wrote:
[quote]NuRhoPsi wrote:
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
I find it works best if I take lots of smaller study sessions, with frequent breaks, not one mahooosive sitting where i try to cram as much in as possible.
BBB[/quote]
But is my lack of sharpness that I previously had attained with nootropics now due to an inferior choline source? I just wish I got the results from Oxi that you described back in BFB 1.0. I’m going to try Ani with alpha gpc today and see what happens. Otherwise I’m going back to DMAE.
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Citicholine too made me “crazy”…heart pounding anxiety…seems alpha GPC has opposite effect…calm clear head and no anxiety…but you may have to experiment with correct dosage for yourself[/quote]
Yup seems we have similar biochemical processes . Took 100mg alpha gpc this morning to no real big effect. I just wanted to be sure it wasn’t going to be like the citicholine. Then at lunch dosed 300mg along with some more aniracetam and piracetam (750 and 1000mg).
1 hr later- this is exactly what I was looking for. Similar to the first few times I took ani. For me the alpha gpc and ani have a real synergistic effect. I don’t even want my usual coffee which is completely unlike me since I am addicted to caffeine. Going to stay with this through my test next week. I’m paying attention to detail, not distracted- thinking these orgo problems all the way through and actually remembering the things I’ve just read.
I can easily see why I did bad on my last exam. People be aware of the stimulating effects of certain nootropics (oxi for all, citi for me) along with caffeine intake. The increase in stress and ultimately CRF/ glucocorticoid production negated any of the nootropic benefits and actually caused a worse performance than if I had taken nothing.