The one question I did have was about Centro. I heard that’s good to take as a “oil change” for the brain working from .5 increments up to 3g a day for about 3 weeks. Than I also read about it not being worth taking unless you combine it with Ani or something else? So my question being, should I just stick with that stack (1st time getting into this and I realize the longer I take it the better) or do I add a centro cycle with something to prep me for the stack?
Just for information as well, paid about 45$ altogether for the following
Ani - 30g = 15$
DMAE - 500g = 9.79$ (sale)
Vinpo - (10mg form) 120 tablets (pack of two) = 18$ off amazon. I think that could of been cheaper but it was a long night. In all I think I could grab all of this for around 35$ - 40$ next time but I wanted to make sure the sellers are legit (used listed sites in this thread).
I think in the next week I’ll be sorting out the following threads with the best info, too much information to sort on here without noops
I took it before. Worked up to 3 grams in a single dose.
FYI, if this gives you an upset stomach, just take in some fluids with it. That fixed it for me.
Pretty much daily(in separate doses) I take:
~1800mg ani
30 mg vinpo
+/=1800mg DMAE
600-1200mg oxi
1000-1500 mg tyrosine
1000-1500 mg B5
400-600 mg COQ10
Midterms right now, so I’ve cycled in a bacopa-ginkgo blend, I think I made it 400mg to 100 mg.
When I take it, even though I don’t feel anything while it’s in circulation, afterwards, the information I was studying is just in my head, like a picture. What cued me to post this was I just had a visual flash of the primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary structures of protein.
Like while I’m studying, sometimes it feels like the information isn’t getting through, but the day after(a good nights rest of course), when all the info has been encoded, processed, and whatever else is going on when memories are being created, it’s super clear, and kind of creepy, if you know what I mean. Like it was effortless.
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
One note about oxiracetam as well.
When I take it, even though I don’t feel anything while it’s in circulation, afterwards, the information I was studying is just in my head, like a picture. What cued me to post this was I just had a visual flash of the primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary structures of protein.
Like while I’m studying, sometimes it feels like the information isn’t getting through, but the day after(a good nights rest of course), when all the info has been encoded, processed, and whatever else is going on when memories are being created, it’s super clear, and kind of creepy, if you know what I mean. Like it was effortless.
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Wish I did know what you mean But I suppose that’s why I am here! I’ll check out your stack though! Maybe during my basic stack I can actually understand everything posted in this thread and not give up so quickly. Thanks for the feedback though. May I ask if you buy these US? I’d like to PM you if you don’t mind.
Oh, if anyone would like to chime in what type of “log” they keep for these things that would be cool. I like to keep track of what I’m taking so ideas of key things to focus on would be great (sounds simple enough, but I always find I miss out on something other than dose, time, and how I feel)
[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
One note about oxiracetam as well.
When I take it, even though I don’t feel anything while it’s in circulation, afterwards, the information I was studying is just in my head, like a picture. What cued me to post this was I just had a visual flash of the primary, secondary, tertiary, and quaternary structures of protein.
Like while I’m studying, sometimes it feels like the information isn’t getting through, but the day after(a good nights rest of course), when all the info has been encoded, processed, and whatever else is going on when memories are being created, it’s super clear, and kind of creepy, if you know what I mean. Like it was effortless.
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Wish I did know what you mean But I suppose that’s why I am here! I’ll check out your stack though! Maybe during my basic stack I can actually understand everything posted in this thread and not give up so quickly. Thanks for the feedback though. May I ask if you buy these US? I’d like to PM you if you don’t mind.
Oh, if anyone would like to chime in what type of “log” they keep for these things that would be cool. I like to keep track of what I’m taking so ideas of key things to focus on would be great (sounds simple enough, but I always find I miss out on something other than dose, time, and how I feel)
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i hate to be “that guy”, but i took my dose a few minutes ago with a fatty meal, and it already feels like somebody connected a car battery to my brain LOL. awesome. its like its alive.
would anybody see a problem taking nootropics preworkout? i highly doubt it, but i know that aniracetam is anxiolytic, just wondering if that would interfere with the nervous system and force production?
edit: i popped 1 neurostim anyway lol with a nice cup of coffee. again ive got the feeling that somebody is injecting electricity into my brain. if anybody can explain this feeling im a little curious, hah.
Has anyone else ever felt mentally exhausted after 2 doses of ani, centro and vinpo have worn off and the day is done? I’m chalking it up to increased mental activity/production…but just curious on everyone’s thoughts.
Been taking:
10mg Vinpocetine
60mg Ginkgo Biloba
200 mcg Huperzine A
450mg B-Complex
900mg Fish Oil
260mg DMAE
2000IU Vitamin D3
for the past… 2 weeks or so now. Mainly noticing a ‘clearer’ thought process and an easier time concentrating/focusing on my studies. Going to start taking Vinpo 3x a day and bump up the ginkgo dose as well.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Has anyone else ever felt mentally exhausted after 2 doses of ani, centro and vinpo have worn off and the day is done? I’m chalking it up to increased mental activity/production…but just curious on everyone’s thoughts.[/quote]
You need an ACh precursor, your brain is using fuel faster than you can naturally replenish it.
[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Has anyone else ever felt mentally exhausted after 2 doses of ani, centro and vinpo have worn off and the day is done? I’m chalking it up to increased mental activity/production…but just curious on everyone’s thoughts.[/quote]
You need an ACh precursor, your brain is using fuel faster than you can naturally replenish it.[/quote]
Interesting. That makes sense. What do you prefer to use for that?
just some observations on my 3rd day of 1 pill of neurostim per day. i will be adding a 2nd pill 4-6 hours later actually, as i noticed the effects wearing off around that time.
increased concentration and focus. MEGA bonus. no more reading over a paragraph 3 times cause my mind is elsewhere and im not absorbing what im reading. driving is on a whole 'nother level too, it feels like im connected more and can predict other stupid moves drivers make. i can foresee every move im going to make in traffic as well.
my head feels…heavy? lol. feel slight tingling the first 5-10 minutes after a dose. im guessing the increased blood flow from the vinpo.
music…what can i say about this. it sounds… better? i can dissect every word and note. its honestly fucked up man lol.
colours. trees and scenery look more vibrant and brighter. wth? lol
TALKATIVE. endless topics come into my head to yap about, whereas before i would always draw blanks.
havent really felt the anxiolytic yet, or maybe i just havent noticed it.
neurostim combined with 500mg ALCAR and 500mg tyrosine before my workout with a cup of coffee…holy motherufcking shit!! better than any preworkout ive spent $60 on!! mind muscle connection was unreal. focus lasted the whole workout. i just kept doing more and more without even thinking.
honestly, GREAT, GREAT, GRRRRRRREAT STUFF!! thanks to BBB, mattyg35, and all the rest in this thread for the great info!
I’m new to this nootropics stuff but I like the sound of it all, especially from what you have been saying over these threads, BBB. I was wondering if you could give me your opinion on the following stack: Hydergine/pramiracetam/centrophenoxine, as opposed to the regularly recommended ani/DMAE/vinp. Better, worse, or unnecessary?
I am fascinated by all of this as I have a good mind when I can focus, but my main problem in life is focus; I cannot seem to focus on anything for long, and I have terrible willpower when it comes to things like study. I have heard that nootropics can help with this, and I hope it true. I have a measured IQ of 150+ but I can’t sit down for ten minutes without staring out of the window, thinking of relativity, an idea for a novel, a business model - anything but what I am supposed to be thinking of. It’s as if my mind is hyperactive and just won’t sit still.
Thanks for any info anyone can give on this; I dream of a day when I find something that can focus all of this random mental energy I have into a beam.
First off, between the three threads I haven’t read all of them from start to finish, I always gave up leaving stressed.
<== just finished reading the entire thread no problem, that’s a first! The other thing (kind of a way for me to notice what’s going on) is I didn’t have “music ADD”. Actually enjoyed my music for once! Listened to entire albums, a first! Nothing out of this world, but music was always just there for me (now I find myself listening to the lyrics and other sounds).
I did get the vinpo last and when I took it my head seemed heavier and warmer, not in a bad or good way. It went away a few hours though, and my second dose same thing 45min or so later.
Pretty cool to notice something other than Spike for once.
My questions were as follows though…
After reading the threads again, Centro sparked my curiosity. Gonna take it (granted I can find a source). I couldn’t really get an answer on taking it with other noops. Some suggested taking it with ani, some said on it’s own (before starting other noops), so not really sure what to do! Gonna use the .5 increments up to 3g a day (thanks BiP) for dosing regardless.
Other than that, out of curiosity I was going to try Alpha GPC before I even know this thread. Any suggestions on how that would be used if I wanted to use it for training and classes? My classes are at 6pm for 2-3hrs where I train shortly after.
Thanks again guys! Hope this helps my stressing and migraines on the side as well!
But I suppose that’s why I am here! I’ll check out your stack though! Maybe during my basic stack I can actually understand everything posted in this thread and not give up so quickly. Thanks for the feedback though. May I ask if you buy these US? I’d like to PM you if you don’t mind.
