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[quote]TwinIron wrote:

[quote]MattyG35 wrote:

[quote]TwinIron wrote:
Hey guys, this is an awesome thread you’ve got going here. I just picked up some DMAE for the first time. The label says “DMAE (from 351mg DMAE bitartrate) - 130mg” per pill. Which amount do I pay attention to when following the ~600mg dosing protocol? (351mg or 130mg - ~2 pills or ~5 pills)[/quote]

Not to sound like an asshole, but nootropic doses are pretty individual. So it might pay off to find out what dose works best for you.

Moving on from there, I have the same form, I use 600mg doses at a time. Sometimes 2x600mg.

Sorry that these aren’t the best answers, I’m sure BBB or someone more knowledgeable will see your post and provide some better insight.[/quote]

Thanks for the answer man! Yeah I was going to play around with the dosage, but my main question was what IS the dose of each pill? I see recommendations to start out at around 600mg individual doses, but is that total DMAE bitartrate or just DMAE?

Ex:

Each pill:
351mg DMAE Bitartrate - yielding
130mg DMAE

Is your dosing schedule more like…

2 pills:
700mg DMAE Bitartrate - yielding
260mg DMAE

or

5 pills:
1755mg DMAE Bitartrate - yielding
650mg DMAE[/quote]

Yeah, like BBB said, shoot your dosages based on the active ingredient(s).

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this is an insanely long thread, would anyone be willing to give cliff notes? I’m interested in the DMAE but im just completely lost right now lol

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[quote]jck524 wrote:
this is an insanely long thread, would anyone be willing to give cliff notes? I’m interested in the DMAE but im just completely lost right now lol[/quote]

If you’re going to mess around with the chemistry of your own brain, you should put in the time and effort to learn what you’re doing.

Start with post one of BFB 1.0; that thread is insanely long but VERY informative.

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To someone above who wrote about the “cumulative effects of noops,” I have only my own self as evidence for this, but when I don’t use the ani +DMAE combo that I take each day for a few days, I notice my thinking feels more fuzzy than normal. Like I can still recall information that I need and stuff, but I don’t put together extra pieces of the puzzle (which is useful when evaluating new patients!)…

In a similar vein, I wanted to pose this question to all regarding oxi: I will begin studying for my boards exam starting in November. I’ll spend an hour or 2 a day for two months just reviewing the information before I start my intensive 11 week study plan leading up to the exam. I was considering using the oxi for the 11 weeks for sure.

Would it be useful/helpful for those 2 months of information review as well? I remember hearing that there is a bit of a “crash” after 2 hours or so, which would be fine, but I wasn’t sure how helpful it would be. I get pretty lethargic and mentally sleepy (best way I can define it) about 3 hours after I take vinpo, so I’ve had to eliminate it from my stack.

Any suggestions or thoughts would be greatly appreciated.

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I don’t see how it would hurt.

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[quote]MattyG35 wrote:
I don’t see how it would hurt.[/quote]

Awesome! Thanks for the reply. I just wasn’t sure if there were any sides or anything from taking oxi that consecutively, for that long, etc.

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One of the important properties of true nootropics is that they have little to no side effects or toxicity. So that makes experimenting much easier than if you had to be super concerned about something going wrong. For myself, I’ve taken ani, oxi, vinpo, DMAE, ginkgo, bacopa, and the worst thing that will happen to me is if I were to take a dose too late in the day, I might have a slightly harder time falling asleep b/c my brain won’t shut-up.

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quick question. i went through a bunch of previous threads and noticed that some of you are using neurostim from MN. im just wondering what your experiences are dose wise.

its only 420mg Aniracetam, 300mg DMAE & 15mg Vinpocetine. it says to START with 1 capsule.

whereas what i have gathered from the threads is that a standard dose is

Vinpocetine 3 x 10mg ED, DMAE 600mg once or twice per day, and Aniracetam 600mg 3 x ED

just wondering what an optimal way to dose it would be for somebody who has never tried nootropics before and has no idea what to expect, or how to know when to increase the dosage. i apologize if its been mentioned before but there is 3 huge threads on BFB’s, and its alot to read and absorb. thanks guys

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Many nootropics operate in a synergistic manner, lowering the individual dose that’s necessary to produce the desired effect.

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Do you all simply purchase these nootropics online?

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]wannabebig25 wrote:
quick question. i went through a bunch of previous threads and noticed that some of you are using neurostim from MN. im just wondering what your experiences are dose wise.

its only 420mg Aniracetam, 300mg DMAE & 15mg Vinpocetine. it says to START with 1 capsule.

whereas what i have gathered from the threads is that a standard dose is

Vinpocetine 3 x 10mg ED, DMAE 600mg once or twice per day, and Aniracetam 600mg 3 x ED

just wondering what an optimal way to dose it would be for somebody who has never tried nootropics before and has no idea what to expect, or how to know when to increase the dosage. i apologize if its been mentioned before but there is 3 huge threads on BFB’s, and its alot to read and absorb. thanks guys[/quote]

I designed that product for them, so I feel qualified to answer :slight_smile:

It is a little bit of a compromise, but only in as much as I wanted to make one capsule effective and two capsules a ‘full’ dose without overdoing it.

So yes, by all means start on one cap, but feel free to up it to 2 caps, when/if you feel that the time is right.

Only you can really judge when that time might (or might not) be :wink:

BBB[/quote]

ah, the man i was waiting for :slight_smile:

thanks for the info BBB, i feel more at ease now knowing that you designed that product. i was on the fence about nootropics, but upon further reading i see that there are little to no side effects and very low toxicity. i am excited now!

and long term use is ok right? im mainly wanting to use them for day to day life, also trying to go back to school and get into the business field (after dropping out due to poor grades and low concentration, poor studying habits, etc).

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I know that you must have touched on dosing 100 times by now BBB. I was curious if you had a recommendation for the following stack if you have time:

Aniracetam
Centrophenoxine
Vinpocetine

I’ll continue to search through the other threads to see if I can find your previous recommendation as well. Thank you!

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[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]wannabebig25 wrote:

[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:

[quote]wannabebig25 wrote:
quick question. i went through a bunch of previous threads and noticed that some of you are using neurostim from MN. im just wondering what your experiences are dose wise.

its only 420mg Aniracetam, 300mg DMAE & 15mg Vinpocetine. it says to START with 1 capsule.

whereas what i have gathered from the threads is that a standard dose is

Vinpocetine 3 x 10mg ED, DMAE 600mg once or twice per day, and Aniracetam 600mg 3 x ED

just wondering what an optimal way to dose it would be for somebody who has never tried nootropics before and has no idea what to expect, or how to know when to increase the dosage. i apologize if its been mentioned before but there is 3 huge threads on BFB’s, and its alot to read and absorb. thanks guys[/quote]

I designed that product for them, so I feel qualified to answer :slight_smile:

It is a little bit of a compromise, but only in as much as I wanted to make one capsule effective and two capsules a ‘full’ dose without overdoing it.

So yes, by all means start on one cap, but feel free to up it to 2 caps, when/if you feel that the time is right.

Only you can really judge when that time might (or might not) be :wink:

BBB[/quote]

ah, the man i was waiting for :slight_smile:

thanks for the info BBB, i feel more at ease now knowing that you designed that product. i was on the fence about nootropics, but upon further reading i see that there are little to no side effects and very low toxicity. i am excited now!

and long term use is ok right? im mainly wanting to use them for day to day life, also trying to go back to school and get into the business field (after dropping out due to poor grades and low concentration, poor studying habits, etc).[/quote]

To me, prolonged use of nootropics, combined with regular, intensive mental challenge, is when shit gets REALLY interesting and impressive.

You see once you accelerate neuroplasticity with these two tools, you can see quantum leaps in understanding, memorisation, technical ability, visualisation and even motor skills or motor-based learning.

See my thread ‘unconscious learning’ for more thoughts on that :slight_smile:

BBB[/quote]

awesome BBB, thanks for the info. i ordered neurostim on monday, hopefully it comes soon :slight_smile:

in fact i passed on the info to a couple of my friends and theyre on the nootropic bandwagon and ordered their own stuff as well!

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[quote]Davinci.v2 wrote:
Do you all simply purchase these nootropics online?[/quote]

yea theres a few different sites. i can PM you the info as im guessing the mods will filter out the sites if i post them here.

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Is there a US website that has Neurostim? I couldn’t really find any.
I dabbled in nootropics last spring, didn’t really get the effect I was looking for, but I’m willing to give it another shot, this time longer. Neurostim seems good in that I wouldn’t have to take three different caps.

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Not BBB, the stacks ok, although if you’re using centro as a cholinergic there’s others that are much more cost efficient for that use.
Make sure you take the vinpo with food(bioavailability).
Ani is fat soluble, so make sure you take it with fat.

I did BBBs centro protocol in full before I went all aboard the nootropic train.

Centro protocol is:
3000mg for 21 days. I purchased 90 grams. Ramped up 500mg day one, 1000mg day two, 1500 mg day three, until I was at 3000mg. Felt constantly calmly aware, but supposedly there is lipofuscin ‘cleaning’ benefits from it, which is what I was aiming for. At first the 3000mg was hard to stomach, but that was quickly remedied with the addition of fluids.