[quote]tolismann wrote:
Do any of the previously mentioned boosters have a positive effect on insulin sensitivity?[/quote]
No, but more importantly, they do not have a negative effect in insulin sensitivity, unlike adderal, etc.
BBB[/quote]
I hear ya brother,
But I can’t help but think that any negative influence it has on insulin sensitivity is MORE THAN offset by the fact that it is a phenomenal appetite suppressant.
Meaning, any little chance in insulin sensitivy is more than offset by the fact that your going to eat a whole heck of a lot less when on it.
Im not sure of everyone else, but thats my experience with it.
[quote]buffd_samurai wrote:
This is just a fantastic thread…all parts…1, 2, and now 3.
These are the type of discussions that bring me back to this site repeatedly. Thankyou to the posters who have resurrected it.
I, unfortunately, do not tolerate aniracetam very well. Seriously speaking, it puts me in a SERIOUSLY bad mood. It basically turns me into a “bad drunk”, i.e. someone who is overly aggressive and “throws their weight around” when under its “influence”. Why this is, I don’t know. But it looks like fat soluable racetams are definitely not for me.
Anyone else like this? Anyone had a reasonable rationale mechanism that might explain such strange reactions for me?
Now, I did not consume the ani with DMAE, but I am taking a full dose of the liquid alpha-GPC in the evenings (for the growth hormone effect as well as the acetylcholine replenishment). I am considering redoing my experiment with DMAE with the ani while continuing to take the alph-GPC in the evening. OR, I am considering replacing my plan of using DMAE with just plain ol alpha-GPC.
With all the wonder talk of Ani on this thread, I am a little crushed that it didn’t work for me. Piracetam will follow after another couple weeks of Ani.
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Hey bud,
From what I remember is that ani is sort of a “dirty precursor” to the more effective racetam, oxi.
I no longer advocate the use of HupA. However you should not exceed 150mcg per day IMO.
I eould say that was a defective product, low in all the things you actually need(choline source, vinpo), missing others (racetam) and excessive in others (hupA).
BBB[/quote]
That’s what I expected. It’s just hard to turn down a free supplement! I’m gonna give it a shot, on the off chance that the adaptogens are dosed high enough, or that the synergy of all the ingredients somehow produces an effect. I can’t afford that aniracetam/DMAE/vinpo stack until next month.
So I tried piractram for a few days, wasnt a huge fan, although not a huge sample size i felt it wore me out a bit with brief fleeting moments of clarity. I want to try Oxi as the next step. Do you have to dose it wtih vinpo? Im off everything now…
Anyone wanna PM me and let me know where a good deal for oxi is?
I find stacking racetams beneficial. Even a very small dose of piracetam in the morning has a positive effect on my mood and socialbility. Later in the day a 50/50 mix of oxi and ani is for studying. Sometimes I’ll take another small dose of pira at bedtime with melatonin, it gives me more colorful dreams.
When you take piracetam in the morning, do you take it on an empty stomach? Also, how long have you been taking piracetam and when did you begin noticing the effects?
I am in the Army and recently attended a promotion board. This is basically you sitting in front of 5 or so guys that are three ranks higher than you getting drilled with questions on every imaginable topic. I used the following stack to study, I was doing two study sessions, for the morning session I took nothing, but for the evening session I took:
Vinpo - 20mg
Huperzine- 200mcg
Aniracetam - 750mg
I am normally not good at memorizing information, but I scored a 144/150 on the board, the highest score in the last three months, the closest person to me was 22 points behind. I did not “feel” any of the brain boosters in a physical sense during my studies, and I thin that is what a lot of people are looking for and they will be disappointed. I did however notice increased concentration, and memory recall.
Just like vitamin T this stuff is not magically going to make you smarter just from taking it, it is just going to give you the ability and potential to learn more.
[quote]Serd wrote:
When you take piracetam in the morning, do you take it on an empty stomach? Also, how long have you been taking piracetam and when did you begin noticing the effects?[/quote]
First thing in morning on empty stomach. Daily for 8 months. On the first day I took one capsule, 2 hours later took another cap, and noticed I felt something different.
I’m seeing a doc next week and will be bringing up my delayed sleep phase. Apparently modafinl is sometimes prescribed for DSPD. Actually I just read an NY Times article which talked about a new treatment for jet lag, armodafinil, and they mentioned DSPD as another possible application.
So basically, I’m hoping to get a script for moda/armoda, but I figure that’ll take a while (referral to specialist, sleep study, yadda yadda). In the meantime I’m wondering if adrafinil is worth it. Anyone have experience with it? It’s not scheduled in the states and doesn’t seem terribly expensive.
[quote]Serd wrote:
When you take piracetam in the morning, do you take it on an empty stomach? Also, how long have you been taking piracetam and when did you begin noticing the effects?[/quote]
First thing in morning on empty stomach. Daily for 8 months. On the first day I took one capsule, 2 hours later took another cap, and noticed I felt something different.[/quote]
Have you ever combined piracetam with coffee?
(…not a “heavy duty” espresso. Just a regular cup of coffee)
[quote]Serd wrote:
When you take piracetam in the morning, do you take it on an empty stomach? Also, how long have you been taking piracetam and when did you begin noticing the effects?[/quote]
First thing in morning on empty stomach. Daily for 8 months. On the first day I took one capsule, 2 hours later took another cap, and noticed I felt something different.[/quote]
Have you ever combined piracetam with coffee?
(…not a “heavy duty” espresso. Just a regular cup of coffee)[/quote]
Ive taken piracetam with caffeine pills (200mg each) and didnt notice any difference when I did or didnt take the piracetam. I just dont think the stuff causes any noticable effects.
[quote]Serd wrote:
When you take piracetam in the morning, do you take it on an empty stomach? Also, how long have you been taking piracetam and when did you begin noticing the effects?[/quote]
First thing in morning on empty stomach. Daily for 8 months. On the first day I took one capsule, 2 hours later took another cap, and noticed I felt something different.[/quote]
Have you ever combined piracetam with coffee?
(…not a “heavy duty” espresso. Just a regular cup of coffee)[/quote]
Oh yeah, half cup of coffee every morning after the pira. I mix a tablespoon of pure cocoa powder with my coffee, there are polyphenols and other good stuff in the cocoa that are good for the brain. Only half cup of coffee because I am sensitive to caffeine…seems I am sensitive to lots of stuff…pira, caffeine, choline supps, I consider myself lucky.
[quote]ts40925 wrote:
Hello everyone. I’ve been following the nootropics thread for a while now but this is my first post. The information is great and very interesting. How would this stack be for any everyday use (assuming that all vitamins are already taken care of):
After taking the Vinpocetine I get a slight headache and feel a little lightheaded and seem to have difficulty concentrating. Is seems to be an unusual reaction. Is vinpo essential to a noop stack?
Thank for any help
[quote]ts40925 wrote:
Hello everyone. I’ve been following the nootropics thread for a while now but this is my first post. The information is great and very interesting. How would this stack be for any everyday use (assuming that all vitamins are already taken care of):
After taking the Vinpocetine I get a slight headache and feel a little lightheaded and seem to have difficulty concentrating. Is seems to be an unusual reaction. Is vinpo essential to a noop stack?
Thank for any help[/quote]
Try 5 mgs, I have found that more is not always better.
Been off the vinpocetine for a while…i just ran out and took ages for my order to come through, got no exams on at the moment anyway.
When I started it again, i got really tired just after taking it, i remember this happening the first time I tried it, lasts a couple of days maybe after each time then i must get used to it or something.
One other reason I was stopping is because I thought it had lost effectiveness, initially when the tiredness wore off I thought it was amazing, then it seemed like I was taking nothing every day after a couple of months down the line.
[quote]imagination wrote:
Been off the vinpocetine for a while…i just ran out and took ages for my order to come through, got no exams on at the moment anyway.
When I started it again, i got really tired just after taking it, i remember this happening the first time I tried it, lasts a couple of days maybe after each time then i must get used to it or something.
One other reason I was stopping is because I thought it had lost effectiveness, initially when the tiredness wore off I thought it was amazing, then it seemed like I was taking nothing every day after a couple of months down the line.
Do you think this supplement should be cycled?[/quote]
My experience tells me to take vinpo mostly once or twice a day as needed, and I take a day or two off from it each week.
Just got a script today for Provigil (modafinil)! Will hopefully be getting it filled early enough tomorrow to take it, then I’ll share my thoughts…it seems like not a lot of people here have experience with this class of noops.