Power would be just as effective as the pills, Serd.
Most of the pills are just capped (in gelatin caps) powder.
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
I don’t see how carbonated drinks (pH ~3) which are ten times less acidic than stomach acid (HCL pH ~2) could have any real effect or how that would even help, as it’s not like it needs to be “broken down”. [/quote]
I’m sure it actually has something to do with the carbon dioxide reducing the strength of the stomach’s hcl, and therefore not breaking down the chemicals so fast/fully. Same goes for taking other supps/medicines with food, just having an empty stomach means faster ‘digestion’.
Don’t quote me though 
Then wouldn’t you want to take the PD with food? The article mentions that for best results take it on an empty stomach, so lowering the pH can’t be the main reason! BTW, where do you guys get aniracetam? Even the bulk powders are expensive! A month’s worth would cost like $70!!! I’m going to use PD as a DMAE subst, and see how it works.
Brian
Search around, Koldnet.
Posting sources gets posts edited or deleted and the PMs system works for shit.
There are definitely cheaper sources than 70 for a month.
Has anybody had side effects from any racetams? I started taking Piracetam and didnt notice anything so when it ran out i ordered Aniracetam and Oxiracetam. I get headaches and lethargy with Ani. The oxi works good at half the dose. I had a big exam to study for so I tried the full dose about 2 weeks ago. I got really bad insomnia. I didn’t sleep for 2 days.
I did notice that the following day coffee seemed to work amazingly though. I was in a daze until I had my coffee, then I was wide awake and even had trouble falling asleep that night.
[quote]HelmetMJC wrote:
Has anybody had side effects from any racetams? I started taking Piracetam and didnt notice anything so when it ran out i ordered Aniracetam and Oxiracetam. I get headaches and lethargy with Ani. The oxi works good at half the dose. I had a big exam to study for so I tried the full dose about 2 weeks ago. I got really bad insomnia. I didn’t sleep for 2 days.
I did notice that the following day coffee seemed to work amazingly though. I was in a daze until I had my coffee, then I was wide awake and even had trouble falling asleep that night.[/quote]
No problem with sleeping but i feel like i burn out when i take piractam. DOn’t have a huge sample size, but i just feel it makes me lethargic/tired without an equal boost in functioning/thinking…
Some folks don’t respond (or don’t respond well) to some of the racetams, Helmet.
I’ve heard about folks responding to Pira and not Ani or Ani and not Pira but generally someone will respond to one of them.
If the oxi works for you you could try low doses throughout the course of the day for important material and stick with Vinpo and DMAE (or another choline source) as a daily thing.
when i first starting DMAE and pira i took a bit too much and felt a bit light headed. That’s about it.
Too much pira can make me lethargic, but the right dose can enhance my creative thinking and social skills. Too much ani gives me brain fog. My favorite: a 50/50 mix of ani and oxi works very well for a few hours, after that I need some sleep. I have not tried that mix more than once per day yet…
I have a few questions for any of the knowledgeable cognitive crusaders here:
I recently starting supplementing with nootropics, and I began working up to 30 mg of Vinpocetine (split up in 3 doses split up throughout the day).
Then i added some Alpha-GPC and Aniracetam.
1.) How long should it take in order for me to get the effects from aniracetam? I started with 750 mg, with no feeling of cognitive enhancement then the next day with to 1500 mg in one dose. Didn’t feel any different, if anything felt a little more anxiety because i was in class and the teacher was popping different questions out to different students.
2.) Should i buy some piracetam to see if i respond better to that than aniracetam? I heard one could be a responder of one but not the other.?
3.) I’m primarily concerned with finding a nootropic that decreases anxiety! Can anyone give me any suggestions? I have to give presentations in my classes and my anxiety level sky rockets.
Thanks for all you guy’s help.
Roweski, should i be taking the aniracetam in one dose (1500 mg) or split the doses throughout the day
They’ve discovered parts of it’s MOA, but I don’t believe anyone’s determined exactly how/why it works and if/how it’s metabolized.
I would be curious to know if it’s “building up” in my system, but unless someone’s just got a mass spec laying around we’re shit out of luck.
300 to 400 mgs l-theanine works very well for my anxiety, take it about an hour beforehand. Works well with other cognitive ehnancers, like pira, ani, and vinpo.
Thank you middleagedguy, I will definitely look into that!
[quote]roweski wrote:
[quote]Ghost22 wrote:
unless someone’s just got a mass spec laying around we’re shit out of luck. [/quote]
I would’ve thought you’d have access to one?
Or maybe watching too much House has left me thinking all hospitals are made of glass walls, brushed steel, and are newly equipped with four of every possible biological and chemical analytics machine… 
[Speaking of which did anyone see last week’s? Shit, that was brilliant.][/quote]
Strictly speaking I’m sure I could weasel my way in to the machine, but it’s the odd looks I’d get as I tried to analyze my urine that would probably tip them off.
And no, I didn’t, I was studying, finals this week and the last.