[quote]Gettnitdone wrote:
Which drugs would you recommend to improve conversation and social awareness? I’m finding myself not being able to flow in conversation like I used to.[/quote]
An appropriate balance between alcohol and uppers to combat the slowed mental processes.
Or just any 'ole normal stack. I feel like the basic stack just makes me sharper in well…everything.
Hey all. Just finished browsing the thread and I’m highly interested in enhancing my cognitive abilities. I’m a first year med student and I just finished my first course with honors which is good but I want to maintain this success despite the ever increasing level of difficulty and quantity of material.
I’m currently taking Vinpo (NSI brand) as suggested in this thread but beyond that I’m having a little trouble consolidating the best course of supplementation. I think adding DMAE is fairly universally recommended and I think I’d like to add a racetam or two into the mix to maximize my potential. Of the ones that seem to be suggested for daily intake (ani or pira) is more highly recommended and is it worth the expense to add oxi to the mix for my weekend study sessions? As one might imagine my budget is a little limited so keeping my stack inexpensive would be nice. Also, as these things are not regulated what are the suggested brands/sites of purchase? Thanks a lot.
Additional question. I’m looking to buy DMAE and the suggested dosage in this thread is 600 mg 3x/d but when looking at labels I often get two sets of numbers where it lists 130 mg of DMAE from 351 mg of DMAE bitartarate. whereas others will just list one number. Should I assume that this is the ‘effective’ number or the number from DMAE bitartarate? Additionally, when looking for DMAE products I keep running across something called centrophenoxine which is DMAE with an additional component of Phyto Growth Hormone. Would this be more effective or is it just ‘sexy’ advertising?
Thanks Roweski! So for pira I’ve seen different suggestions on dosages, one post said up to 2400/day I’ve seen as high as 4800/day I think. Should I just start out at 1 800 cap/day and work up until I feel it working? It seems that the effects of it wear off in a few hours so would it be best to dose it multiple times per day? If you could suggest a good place to find a solid DMAE product I’d appreciate it (PM seems to work for me). Again, thanks!
I’m choosing between 2 brands of vinpo online: Jarrow formulas and Source naturals.
Any experience with either in terms of quality?
Black coffee does the job for me!
I haven’t had Hydergine in its exact form, but I had an ergyloid mesylate compounded for me. It’s basically just ramped up Vinpocetine. It’s good, but nothing that special, for me at least.
Really? That sucks, I’m only researching into it because it came highly recommended…
Did you notice anything different when taking it?
I took the sustained release 9mg and it was compounded for me. The Brand name Hydergine is difficult to get b/c of the assholes at the FDA. PM me for more info. Basically, I felt like it was a strong vinpocetine.
I took Vinp for about 2 weeks on its own but didnt notice anything. I tried the Piractram a couple days, but i wasnt that dilligent with the dossage of it.
You dont have to load the piractram right? is it something that accumulates or should u notice it right away.
With the Piractram i did have these very brief moments, like 10min of clarity (it was pretty exciting, i felt really ambitious and alive) while reading and then it would go away. I took about 2 pills of 800mg…
Vinp i was doing 3x a day at 10mg, but im 6’3 220lbs or so… shud i up the dosage until i “feel” something?
[quote]BMellow wrote:
I took Vinp for about 2 weeks on its own but didnt notice anything. I tried the Piractram a couple days, but i wasnt that dilligent with the dossage of it.
You dont have to load the piractram right? is it something that accumulates or should u notice it right away.
With the Piractram i did have these very brief moments, like 10min of clarity (it was pretty exciting, i felt really ambitious and alive) while reading and then it would go away. I took about 2 pills of 800mg…
Vinp i was doing 3x a day at 10mg, but im 6’3 220lbs or so… shud i up the dosage until i “feel” something?[/quote]
With almost all Racetams there’s a period before you notice them.
And they’re subtle, anyway.
Oxiracetam is about the only one that you ought to notice upon usage.
I don’t know about the “loading” per se but I can tell you that it may take a while before you notice anything.
Take it everyday and when you’re supposed to.
Running a fairly simple stack right now.
Vinpo 30mg once in the morning with food
DMAE 1000mg once in the morning with food
I found that I kept missing my afternoon doses or simply didn’t have quality food around, and I would end up eating junk food just to get food in.
So once a day in the a.m with breakfast. I’m consistent that way
Prami tastes like shit.
I might have to stop being such a lazy bastard and actually cap it.
@Ghost more importantly, how well did it work?
So I haven’t really struggled mentally before, but the idea of improving mental performance is kind of intriguing. I read through the thread, and see many people saying they have great benefits, I just have no experience in this field of supplements. So my first college finals are coming up and Im thinking what the hell, might as well try it. From what I could grab a beginners stack would look something like this, and correct me if Im wrong:
Vinpo, 10 3 times a day with food, build tolerance up
DMAE, 600 mg once or twice a day
Huperzine A 50 3 times a day with food, only once or twice a week (might not take this one from what I read above)
Working on the other thing as I type this.
…because I have no life.
Can you take Power Drive as your only source of choline, or would you need to take a supplementary dose of DMAE?
This is the ingredients of Power Drive:
Although there is only 200mg of DMAE, there is another 1,000mg of another source of choline, which I’m unsure whether it would suite the needs we are after. Also, should the DMAE/PD be taken on an empty stomach and with a carbonated drink?
“Just take two doses of Power Drive in cold water and add 200mg of caffeine. You can get the caffeine from diet soda, a cup of coffee, or Vivarin-type tablets. For optimal results, take on an empty stomach and avoid caffeine usage at other times. Save it for when you really need it!”
“Strength coach Charles Staley is also an avid fan of Power Drive and has his athletes take it with club soda. Charles believes the fizzy club soda increases stomach acidity, which in turn increases absorption.”
From this source:
Thanks,
Brian
To Ghost, BBB, Wiseguy, anyone…
I’m looking for a reliable and reputable company to purchase DMAE, vinpo, and aniracetam… Do any of you guys have any good recommendations. Thanks for the help and for all the good info in this thread!
Also would consuming the powder from being just as effective as consuming the pill form for aniracetam?
Serd