haha Balbo is a funny ass dude
i think for your own safety you should know how to throw a punch and kick some ass but its also good to have a lot of size… i mean lets be real you cant be a fucking toothpick and expect people to be scared of you. at this club i usually go to theres usually like 5 big fucks outside in the parking lot area near the door and i wouldnt start any shit with them. these guys are like all 240+
balbo,
thanks for the videos. however, i knew there was a certain risk involved with doing this. it would be like me saying it wasn’t as risky as i thought being a cop. however, being a sheriff of a midwestern town of 2,000 is going to be a lot less riskier than a member of miami or LA SWAT.
maybe it’s the clubs in spain, maybe the guys here are just a lot more laid back. maybe it’s something in the alcohol over there. whatever the case, the ‘most frequent’ situation you describe is rare over here where i work. that being said, if i knew that’s what it’s like in the clubs over there i’d doubt i 'd wanna get a job there. i’m here to finish my college education, and stuck in a hospital bed with broken limbs is not the way i wanna go.
maybe it’s different wherever you go. my whole point though was that maybe it’s NOT how some people (including you) portray it, and if they do put the time and energy into lifting, mma, whatever, it’s something they could look into in order to make some money on the side of going to school.
[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
haha Balbo is a funny ass dude
i think for your own safety you should know how to throw a punch and kick some ass but its also good to have a lot of size… i mean lets be real you cant be a fucking toothpick and expect people to be scared of you. at this club i usually go to theres usually like 5 big fucks outside in the parking lot area near the door and i wouldnt start any shit with them. these guys are like all 240+[/quote]
I am around 200 lb. I know bouncers who are smaller than me…about 190…some are 180 lb.
There are a lot of bouncers with over 250 lb. that I know.
Good bouncer is good at his job.
There are good bouncers and shitty bouncers.
Some bouncers juice heavily,are 250 lb. ,bench 400 lb.
Some are boxing or doing Muay Thai at 180 lb. bw.
Balbo the situation your in might necessitate you working the crowd the way you do. In the US in most cases you would be sued along with the bar/disco you work at. It seems like everyone in the US thinks they have the legal right to be an ass and do whatever they want but no one else does.
Yes in most cases a college town will not be a bad place to bounce. The more someone has to lose the less likely they are to do something insanely stupid, yes even when drunk most will have friends who will stop them.
However I live in DE and there are two colleges major colleges in the state. One where the worst you get in the bars is some small fights (two drunks) which quickly are stopped. Bouncing here is pretty much a night out where you get paid and can still talk to the college girls you go to school with as long as you keep your eyes up.
If this is the kind of place your going to work go for it, it’s fun and as long as your whole staff know what they are doing things are usually good. plus the local city prob gets so much money from the school they want everything to stay good so there are prob cops outside or right around to handle a situation once you get it out the door or if it gets to unruly.
I have some good friends who bounce at the other one (south near the Air Force Base), and I have worked a night or two, where they constantly (3-4 times a month) have large brawls and weapons are used. I would not recommend anyone bouncing there who does not know how to handle themselves, not saying I’m billy badass but I can take care of myself also know the staff and trust them to get my back.
Bouncing in one place is completely different then the other. Not to put a socioeconomic spin on it but the club will often reflect the area it’s in and the clientèle will be of that area, which means if there is more crime in the area of the bar you will likely have more problems. The thing is you must still only use enough force to control the situation. if that means violence fine, but you must CONTROL the situation not just beat up some guy.
Yeah the place may have a reputation for having bouncers that are able to win every fight but if a girl thinks she’ll still be messed with or a guy doesn’t want to go in if he’s not rolling deep then that is a problem for the club and shows a door staff that isn’t controlling the situation.
buddy of mine always says “some guys work to wear the shirt and pick up bottles, other guys solve problems”
Again sorry for the long rant. I’m sure everyone who has worked as staff knows what I’m talking about if you’ve done it long enough just trying to help out the young guys getting into it and the OP
'pprciate it biggieben
No offence,but you are bunch of college kids discussing and analyzing something you didnt experience.
The thread starter asked for some advice and I gave him one general advice that might save him one night…
LEARN TO HIT FUCKING HARD
No,you dont need to beat people up.
You might not even need to hit someone(highly unlikely if you work long enough).
Just learn to hit fucking hard…if you will need it it could save you or somebody else.Otherwise,it could give you some real confidence and make your job easier.
Its not a hobby,its a serious job.
[quote]biggieben wrote:
Balbo the situation your in might necessitate you working the crowd the way you do. In the US in most cases you would be sued along with the bar/disco you work at. It seems like everyone in the US thinks they have the legal right to be an ass and do whatever they want but no one else does.
Yes in most cases a college town will not be a bad place to bounce. The more someone has to lose the less likely they are to do something insanely stupid, yes even when drunk most will have friends who will stop them.
However I live in DE and there are two colleges major colleges in the state. One where the worst you get in the bars is some small fights (two drunks) which quickly are stopped. Bouncing here is pretty much a night out where you get paid and can still talk to the college girls you go to school with as long as you keep your eyes up.
If this is the kind of place your going to work go for it, it’s fun and as long as your whole staff know what they are doing things are usually good. plus the local city prob gets so much money from the school they want everything to stay good so there are prob cops outside or right around to handle a situation once you get it out the door or if it gets to unruly.
I have some good friends who bounce at the other one (south near the Air Force Base), and I have worked a night or two, where they constantly (3-4 times a month) have large brawls and weapons are used. I would not recommend anyone bouncing there who does not know how to handle themselves, not saying I’m billy badass but I can take care of myself also know the staff and trust them to get my back.
Bouncing in one place is completely different then the other. Not to put a socioeconomic spin on it but the club will often reflect the area it’s in and the clientèle will be of that area, which means if there is more crime in the area of the bar you will likely have more problems. The thing is you must still only use enough force to control the situation. if that means violence fine, but you must CONTROL the situation not just beat up some guy.
Yeah the place may have a reputation for having bouncers that are able to win every fight but if a girl thinks she’ll still be messed with or a guy doesn’t want to go in if he’s not rolling deep then that is a problem for the club and shows a door staff that isn’t controlling the situation.
buddy of mine always says “some guys work to wear the shirt and pick up bottles, other guys solve problems”
Again sorry for the long rant. I’m sure everyone who has worked as staff knows what I’m talking about if you’ve done it long enough just trying to help out the young guys getting into it and the OP[/quote]
Amigo,I grew up and bounced here in Croatia,in the chaotic and violent Balkans,but I have no illusions that there are a lot of rough places for bouncers in US.
If I compare Croatia discos/bars and in Spain,there is 4 times more bouncers compared to number of patrons more in Croatia than in Spain.And in Croatia,we are always heavy tooled up,whereas bouncers in Spain carry only tear gas spray or telescopic stick.
Police never check us out and cooperate with us nicely.
[quote]BALBO wrote:
biggieben wrote:
Balbo the situation your in might necessitate you working the crowd the way you do. In the US in most cases you would be sued along with the bar/disco you work at. It seems like everyone in the US thinks they have the legal right to be an ass and do whatever they want but no one else does.
Yes in most cases a college town will not be a bad place to bounce. The more someone has to lose the less likely they are to do something insanely stupid, yes even when drunk most will have friends who will stop them.
However I live in DE and there are two colleges major colleges in the state. One where the worst you get in the bars is some small fights (two drunks) which quickly are stopped. Bouncing here is pretty much a night out where you get paid and can still talk to the college girls you go to school with as long as you keep your eyes up.
If this is the kind of place your going to work go for it, it’s fun and as long as your whole staff know what they are doing things are usually good. plus the local city prob gets so much money from the school they want everything to stay good so there are prob cops outside or right around to handle a situation once you get it out the door or if it gets to unruly.
I have some good friends who bounce at the other one (south near the Air Force Base), and I have worked a night or two, where they constantly (3-4 times a month) have large brawls and weapons are used. I would not recommend anyone bouncing there who does not know how to handle themselves, not saying I’m billy badass but I can take care of myself also know the staff and trust them to get my back.
Bouncing in one place is completely different then the other. Not to put a socioeconomic spin on it but the club will often reflect the area it’s in and the clientèle will be of that area, which means if there is more crime in the area of the bar you will likely have more problems. The thing is you must still only use enough force to control the situation. if that means violence fine, but you must CONTROL the situation not just beat up some guy.
Yeah the place may have a reputation for having bouncers that are able to win every fight but if a girl thinks she’ll still be messed with or a guy doesn’t want to go in if he’s not rolling deep then that is a problem for the club and shows a door staff that isn’t controlling the situation.
buddy of mine always says “some guys work to wear the shirt and pick up bottles, other guys solve problems”
Again sorry for the long rant. I’m sure everyone who has worked as staff knows what I’m talking about if you’ve done it long enough just trying to help out the young guys getting into it and the OP
Amigo,I grew up and bounced here in Croatia,in the chaotic and violent Balkans,but I have no illusions that there are a lot of rough places for bouncers in US.
If I compare Croatia discos/bars and in Spain,there is 4 times more bouncers compared to number of patrons more in Croatia than in Spain.And in Croatia,we are always heavy tooled up,whereas bouncers in Spain carry only tear gas spray or telescopic stick.
Police never check us out and cooperate with us nicely.
[/quote]
And if the putty minded college kids apply your medieval methods they will, in a civilized world, find themselves in jail and penniless. Thankfully, it sounds like most folks find you entertaining rather than informative. I suspect you are actually a scream to work with.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
BALBO wrote:
biggieben wrote:
Balbo the situation your in might necessitate you working the crowd the way you do. In the US in most cases you would be sued along with the bar/disco you work at. It seems like everyone in the US thinks they have the legal right to be an ass and do whatever they want but no one else does.
Yes in most cases a college town will not be a bad place to bounce. The more someone has to lose the less likely they are to do something insanely stupid, yes even when drunk most will have friends who will stop them.
However I live in DE and there are two colleges major colleges in the state. One where the worst you get in the bars is some small fights (two drunks) which quickly are stopped. Bouncing here is pretty much a night out where you get paid and can still talk to the college girls you go to school with as long as you keep your eyes up.
If this is the kind of place your going to work go for it, it’s fun and as long as your whole staff know what they are doing things are usually good. plus the local city prob gets so much money from the school they want everything to stay good so there are prob cops outside or right around to handle a situation once you get it out the door or if it gets to unruly.
I have some good friends who bounce at the other one (south near the Air Force Base), and I have worked a night or two, where they constantly (3-4 times a month) have large brawls and weapons are used. I would not recommend anyone bouncing there who does not know how to handle themselves, not saying I’m billy badass but I can take care of myself also know the staff and trust them to get my back.
Bouncing in one place is completely different then the other. Not to put a socioeconomic spin on it but the club will often reflect the area it’s in and the clientèle will be of that area, which means if there is more crime in the area of the bar you will likely have more problems. The thing is you must still only use enough force to control the situation. if that means violence fine, but you must CONTROL the situation not just beat up some guy.
Yeah the place may have a reputation for having bouncers that are able to win every fight but if a girl thinks she’ll still be messed with or a guy doesn’t want to go in if he’s not rolling deep then that is a problem for the club and shows a door staff that isn’t controlling the situation.
buddy of mine always says “some guys work to wear the shirt and pick up bottles, other guys solve problems”
Again sorry for the long rant. I’m sure everyone who has worked as staff knows what I’m talking about if you’ve done it long enough just trying to help out the young guys getting into it and the OP
Amigo,I grew up and bounced here in Croatia,in the chaotic and violent Balkans,but I have no illusions that there are a lot of rough places for bouncers in US.
If I compare Croatia discos/bars and in Spain,there is 4 times more bouncers compared to number of patrons more in Croatia than in Spain.And in Croatia,we are always heavy tooled up,whereas bouncers in Spain carry only tear gas spray or telescopic stick.
Police never check us out and cooperate with us nicely.
And if the putty minded college kids apply your medieval methods they will, in a civilized world, find themselves in jail and penniless. Thankfully, it sounds like most folks find you entertaining rather than informative. I suspect you are actually a scream to work with.[/quote]
1.they wouldnt get to work at some serious establishment in the first place
2.I am not much different than dozens of professional bouncers I work with
3.Civilized world,amigo? Where have you been living? In some village in Switzerland.
4.In a civilized world bouncers wouldnt even exist.
5.Why are bouncers big strong men that can fight?
Why dont clubs hire female bouncers…after all,women are much better at communication.
Please,dont assume that people reading this thread are naive and stupid enough to fall for your bullshit.
[quote]Loose Tool wrote:
BALBO wrote:
biggieben wrote:
Balbo the situation your in might necessitate you working the crowd the way you do. In the US in most cases you would be sued along with the bar/disco you work at. It seems like everyone in the US thinks they have the legal right to be an ass and do whatever they want but no one else does.
Yes in most cases a college town will not be a bad place to bounce. The more someone has to lose the less likely they are to do something insanely stupid, yes even when drunk most will have friends who will stop them.
However I live in DE and there are two colleges major colleges in the state. One where the worst you get in the bars is some small fights (two drunks) which quickly are stopped. Bouncing here is pretty much a night out where you get paid and can still talk to the college girls you go to school with as long as you keep your eyes up.
If this is the kind of place your going to work go for it, it’s fun and as long as your whole staff know what they are doing things are usually good. plus the local city prob gets so much money from the school they want everything to stay good so there are prob cops outside or right around to handle a situation once you get it out the door or if it gets to unruly.
I have some good friends who bounce at the other one (south near the Air Force Base), and I have worked a night or two, where they constantly (3-4 times a month) have large brawls and weapons are used. I would not recommend anyone bouncing there who does not know how to handle themselves, not saying I’m billy badass but I can take care of myself also know the staff and trust them to get my back.
Bouncing in one place is completely different then the other. Not to put a socioeconomic spin on it but the club will often reflect the area it’s in and the clientèle will be of that area, which means if there is more crime in the area of the bar you will likely have more problems. The thing is you must still only use enough force to control the situation. if that means violence fine, but you must CONTROL the situation not just beat up some guy.
Yeah the place may have a reputation for having bouncers that are able to win every fight but if a girl thinks she’ll still be messed with or a guy doesn’t want to go in if he’s not rolling deep then that is a problem for the club and shows a door staff that isn’t controlling the situation.
buddy of mine always says “some guys work to wear the shirt and pick up bottles, other guys solve problems”
Again sorry for the long rant. I’m sure everyone who has worked as staff knows what I’m talking about if you’ve done it long enough just trying to help out the young guys getting into it and the OP
Amigo,I grew up and bounced here in Croatia,in the chaotic and violent Balkans,but I have no illusions that there are a lot of rough places for bouncers in US.
If I compare Croatia discos/bars and in Spain,there is 4 times more bouncers compared to number of patrons more in Croatia than in Spain.And in Croatia,we are always heavy tooled up,whereas bouncers in Spain carry only tear gas spray or telescopic stick.
Police never check us out and cooperate with us nicely.
And if the putty minded college kids apply your medieval methods they will, in a civilized world, find themselves in jail and penniless. Thankfully, it sounds like most folks find you entertaining rather than informative. I suspect you are actually a scream to work with.[/quote]
Minority of people coming to discos/bars are aggressive scumbags.Job of a bouncer is to protect majority of people and property of the club from those.To keep those thugs out.To stop them.
Talking is not going to achieve that.
[quote]BALBO wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
i did a fair amount of “security” jobs at bars when i was in college.
the problem i had was i was short, and at 5’7" i could not intimidate anybody, even though i was 260-270lbs, and was lifting really heavy weights.
so, i often had to get into physical confrontations, where as my HUGE buddies, could talk people down frequently.
oh, to the tough guy who said “learn to hit hard”, i never once threw a punch as a “bouncer”.
Go back to your logs and barbells.[/quote]
ok, well since you made it personal, go fuck yourself.
oh, and please dont fly over to the states and kick my ass for saying that.
grow up.
if you worked in some hell holes where there is very little law and order, fine, do what you have to do.
my philosophy was that if i started throwing punches, all i was was another thug getting into a street-fight with a drunk.
i thought it was better to control a situation rather than be a part of it. that usually meant wrestling them down, immobilizing them and waiting for the rest of the crew to show up and throw them out.
if they tried to come back in, we had off duty police officers stationed outside to arrest them.
the usa is a very litigious society, also we are a country of laws. for what i got paid as a bouncer it was not worth it in no shape or fashion to risk getting sued or put in jail by maiming somebody with a bat or stomping them in the head with my boots.
if that is what makes your world go around, hey, like i said, do what you have to do.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
BALBO wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
i did a fair amount of “security” jobs at bars when i was in college.
the problem i had was i was short, and at 5’7" i could not intimidate anybody, even though i was 260-270lbs, and was lifting really heavy weights.
so, i often had to get into physical confrontations, where as my HUGE buddies, could talk people down frequently.
oh, to the tough guy who said “learn to hit hard”, i never once threw a punch as a “bouncer”.
Go back to your logs and barbells.
ok, well since you made it personal, go fuck yourself.
oh, and please dont fly over to the states and kick my ass for saying that.
grow up.
if you worked in some hell holes where there is very little law and order, fine, do what you have to do.
my philosophy was that if i started throwing punches, all i was was another thug getting into a street-fight with a drunk.
i thought it was better to control a situation rather than be a part of it. that usually meant wrestling them down, immobilizing them and waiting for the rest of the crew to show up and throw them out.
if they tried to come back in, we had off duty police officers stationed outside to arrest them.
the usa is a very litigious society, also we are a country of laws. for what i got paid as a bouncer it was not worth it in no shape or fashion to risk getting sued or put in jail by maiming somebody with a bat or stomping them in the head with my boots.
if that is what makes your world go around, hey, like i said, do what you have to do.
[/quote]
I dont want to discuss bouncing which gets bread on my table for the bigger part of year(spring to late autumn) with a person who never had to hit someone.
Did you ever got attacked by angry mob?
One night in last August 4 of us had to throw 20+ aggressive boys from Napoli out of our disco.They fought as a group.It was bloody mayhem.I tore my shoes open…couldnt do a push-up for days after and felt pain in my hands for weeks…I injured some ligaments in my foot.
I threw over 100 punches and kicks and received more than dozen.It was 15 minute riot in the side street.I suppose I was lucky to walk out of that in one piece.
Man,if you meet any serious bouncer,please advise him never to throw a punch and to control the situation.
He would roll over with laughter.
Remember,both thugs and bouncers train for this kind of stuff.
Unfortunately,most of you think I am playing to be some sort of bad-ass.
You are naive…and I am afraid you are as ready as sheeps for slauther.
You can all run into some dangerous situation any day,but if you choose to be a bouncer,just be prepared for the worst.
You can actually die…bouncers get shoot,ambushed on their way home,stabbed,etc.
To punch someone or get punched,its nothing really.
[quote]heavythrower wrote:
BALBO wrote:
heavythrower wrote:
i did a fair amount of “security” jobs at bars when i was in college.
the problem i had was i was short, and at 5’7" i could not intimidate anybody, even though i was 260-270lbs, and was lifting really heavy weights.
so, i often had to get into physical confrontations, where as my HUGE buddies, could talk people down frequently.
oh, to the tough guy who said “learn to hit hard”, i never once threw a punch as a “bouncer”.
Go back to your logs and barbells.
ok, well since you made it personal, go fuck yourself.
oh, and please dont fly over to the states and kick my ass for saying that.
grow up.
if you worked in some hell holes where there is very little law and order, fine, do what you have to do.
my philosophy was that if i started throwing punches, all i was was another thug getting into a street-fight with a drunk.
i thought it was better to control a situation rather than be a part of it. that usually meant wrestling them down, immobilizing them and waiting for the rest of the crew to show up and throw them out.
if they tried to come back in, we had off duty police officers stationed outside to arrest them.
the usa is a very litigious society, also we are a country of laws. for what i got paid as a bouncer it was not worth it in no shape or fashion to risk getting sued or put in jail by maiming somebody with a bat or stomping them in the head with my boots.
if that is what makes your world go around, hey, like i said, do what you have to do.
[/quote]
Peace pact?
They understand what you are trying to say. They are also saying that the majority of establishments in the us are not like the situations you have had to deal with in Croatia.
Their style is better served here, while yours there. I’m sure your advice is appreciate by the OP, but due to the difference in environment the more passive advice of heavythrower is more applicable.
[quote]Defekt wrote:
They understand what you are trying to say. They are also saying that the majority of establishments in the us are not like the situations you have had to deal with in Croatia.
Their style is better served here, while yours there. I’m sure your advice is appreciate by the OP, but due to the difference in environment the more passive advice of heavythrower is more applicable. [/quote]
Yes,you might be right.
My experience is only from Croatia and Spain.I have friends that bounced in Nederlands,Poland,Belgium etc.
One bouncer from my city also went to Spain to work and got killed last summer.Stabbed to death.
Lately one bouncer in my city got shoot in spine and is in wheelchair.
A few of my friends carry guns or have them in a near parked car.
Every year in Croatia a few bouncer die while working.
2 guys (one that I know personally) got injured at bikers party…one was slashed with chains on the head and received so many stitches and the other was cut with an axe (AXE!!!).
At New Years party I was working the doors of a club in city centre and in a club about 1 mile away a 17-year kid was thrown out by bouncers.He returned with about 40 people 2 hours later.All of them tooled up.Firefight started and a few people got shot.Luckily nobody died.
You think I am making this stuff up?
Read the story under the title Shooting in Gjuro.
Croatian bouncer doing his routinely job.
Doesnt talk much. Does his job.
Doesnt have 240+ lb. of muscle.
Underpaid.
My colleagues from Londoner(Lloret Del Mar,same street where I worked in Collossos) keeping the wrong element out.
Hardly 250 lb. monsters,but doing their job and…horror horror throwing a punch!!!