I was on 10 weeks of T400@500mg a week. I was taking .5mg of arimidex EOD.
After the cycle was finished, I began my PCT with nolva and clomid after 2 weeks of last injection. Shortly after I became ill for a short period of time which interrupted PCT(stopped, basically) and it snowballed from there.
I basically botched/skipped the whole PCT. My last shot was probably about 7-8 weeks ago and I’ve been getting back acne for about a month now and it doesn’t seem to be subsiding. My libido and quality of erection also seems to be suffering.
I’ve been taking tribulus. Is there anything I should do right now or just ride it out now while my body eventually finds its homeostasis?
Please help guys. I know this was a ridiculously idiotic move on my part especially considering I had everything on hand. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
Hi mate. Firstly, its actually PCT you were goint through, as in Post Cycle Therapy. HRT is hormone replacxement therapy, something that peeps with low natural test levels go on for life usually, to put them on an even footing with ‘normal’ men. If I were you, I would be tempted to actually go on a low dose of test (200-300 mg/wk) for a while (maybe 4 weeks), in order to get your libido and state of mind settled. Then I would restart your PCT, and see it through to the end this time. Or you could use the Prisoner 22 tapering method, which has had some very good results.[/quote]
Yeah I was waiting for the thread to get posted because I realized afterwards I had used the wrong acronym for whatever reason. “Der der der” moment.
If HCG can be had, get back on some gear and take 250iu SQ EOD. Do that for a while to let your testes get better and things start to hang normally. Then do nolvadex to get LH started and the testes will be able to respond to that as you quit the HCG.
There may be some issues with HCG and nolvadex overlapping from the point of view of over stimulating the LH receptors. I have no idea how fast the HP part of the HPTA will start to release LH once blinded to the effects of E. I do not know what to say about that timing.
I suggest arimidex all through and past the end of the nolvadex as the nolvadex without AI will promote higher than normal E levels that you do not want to be exposed to. I have never done this, but wanted to put AI on the table to get the testes game ready for the PCT transition. There are probably some details that I do not know about.
my opinion on the taper method is that it doesnt make much of a difference. Because your brain is still thinking test overload. plus youll notice that PCT usualy starts after 2weeks. thats because the test is still lingering… but thats just my opinion
[quote]bushidobadboy wrote:
daveybaby wrote:
my opinion on the taper method is that it doesnt make much of a difference. Because your brain is still thinking test overload. plus youll notice that PCT usualy starts after 2weeks. thats because the test is still lingering… but thats just my opinion
I kind of agree, but think of it like this… Would you go from a massive calorie surplus, to far less than maintenance, almost overnight? Because that is effectively what you are doing to your androgen receptors when you go ‘cold-turkey’. You have been ‘force-feeding’ them for weeks, with super-saturation doses of androgens, but then you stop dead. Yes, I know that it takes time for the esters to clear, giving you a sort of natural taper, but personally, I believe that a much longer, purposely administrated taper allows for a much more gentle transition. This has to be a good thing IMO. I could be wrong though :)[/quote]
Sounds like you are saying that the T receptors may have down regulated from the forced feeding and will themselves also take time to recover and work with normal T level when that come back.
haha… sounds good tuh me, brother. but if youre already gonna do the PCT with HCG or something than the taper should be usless, right? or maybe it’d be better to do both.