sources on his cholesterol part? No, but he explains the process of cholesterol creation in the body and different particle sizes. Nothing new for those that have read other books on sat fat/cholesterol, but it breaks it down for those new to the idea
i have a little dilemma on hand. i want to start a carb cycling bulk soon and i have been reading up a lot on why wheat products are bad for you. i want to continue as planned to do the carb cycling bulk but what should my staple carb sources be if i wanted to be 100% grain free? i plan on veggies, fruits, potatoes(not grain right?), quinoa?, rice(grain?), ezekiel bread/cereal?(grain?)
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
rice, quinoa, sweet potatoes, potatoes would be fine sources of carbs if you’re trying to eliminate wheat.
beans too
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
From fruit? Not really.
[quote]man bear pig wrote:
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
From fruit? Not really.[/quote]
Yeah, 2 bananas and 2 apples get you to around 100g
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]man bear pig wrote:
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
From fruit? Not really.[/quote]
Yeah, 2 bananas and 2 apples get you to around 100g[/quote]
Fructose tends to go to liver glycogen (then fat). Starchy carbs tend to be stored as muscle glycogen (then fat).
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]man bear pig wrote:
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
From fruit? Not really.[/quote]
Yeah, 2 bananas and 2 apples get you to around 100g[/quote]
Fructose tends to go to liver glycogen (then fat). Starchy carbs tend to be stored as muscle glycogen (then fat).[/quote]
thats what i thought
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
[quote]Spartiates wrote:
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
[quote]man bear pig wrote:
[quote]talon2nr7588 wrote:
all carb sources will refill glycogen the same right? it will be kind of hard to eat 150g worth of carbs from fruit and veggies[/quote]
From fruit? Not really.[/quote]
Yeah, 2 bananas and 2 apples get you to around 100g[/quote]
Fructose tends to go to liver glycogen (then fat). Starchy carbs tend to be stored as muscle glycogen (then fat).[/quote]
thats what i thought[/quote]
yeah, because tons of people are getting fat by eating too much fruit. Not as simple as stated.
100g of carbs from fruit does not equal 100g of fructose anyways
would 100g of carbs worth of fruit as my pwo meal be same as 100g of carbs worth of rice/potatoes for bulking?
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
yeah, because tons of people are getting fat by eating too much fruit. Not as simple as stated.[/quote]
Maybe not that simple. Maybe people aren’t getting FAT from it.
I know that for me, cutting down my fructose intake (I love tomatoes, and used to make my protein shakes with fruit instead of almond/nut butters), after I’d already cleaned up my diet, was one of the final pushes I needed to get into the 10% b/f / visible abs range.
I think fruit is totally over-hyped. At the end of the day it’s sugar, water and fiber. And for performance and body composition it’s an inferior blend of sugar compared with other types of carbs.
Do tomatoes what would be considered a high amount of fructose ? I pound the shit out of them daily.
worried about too much fructose from tomatoes is like worrying about mowing the lawn when the house is on fire.
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
worried about too much fructose from tomatoes is like worrying about mowing the lawn when the house is on fire.[/quote]
lol
[quote]jehovasfitness wrote:
worried about too much fructose from tomatoes is like worrying about mowing the lawn when the house is on fire.[/quote]
fucker 
Having just read “Wheat Belly” William Davis, MD, I can state that this was an truly excellent thread.
A few points however:
- The majority of Dr. Davis’s patients are obese, not ardent physique trainers;
- Dr. Davis suggests eliminating all grains, except for ground Flaxseed;
- Dr. Davis suggests eliminating potato and corn;
- Dr. Davis mentions to eat some fruit (in limited amounts and only berries);
- Dr. Davis suggests consuming vegetables (no sub classifications except #3 above);
This is not a far cry from Paleo, in fact it is fair to say that “Wheat Belly” is more a suggestion of what not to eat, rather than a strong case of what to consume. He does dedicate portions of the book to an eating regimen, but far from the conviction of eliminating grains. A lot of the material will no doubt fall into the “obvious” category for typical T-Nation members, but there is a lot of excellent information in his book, and I look forward to reaping the benefits. This publication will stay in my library along side others, such as Boutenko’s “Green for Life”
Much thanks to all who contributed to this thread. It has been a pleasure hearing of your experience and knowledge.
[quote]TORO wrote:
Having just read “Wheat Belly” William Davis, MD, I can state that this was an truly excellent thread.
A few points however:
- The majority of Dr. Davis’s patients are obese, not ardent physique trainers;
- Dr. Davis suggests eliminating all grains, except for ground Flaxseed;
- Dr. Davis suggests eliminating potato and corn;
- Dr. Davis mentions to eat some fruit (in limited amounts and only berries);
- Dr. Davis suggests consuming vegetables (no sub classifications except #3 above);
This is not a far cry from Paleo, in fact it is fair to say that “Wheat Belly” is more a suggestion of what not to eat, rather than a strong case of what to consume. He does dedicate portions of the book to an eating regimen, but far from the conviction of eliminating grains. A lot of the material will no doubt fall into the “obvious” category for typical T-Nation members, but there is a lot of excellent information in his book, and I look forward to reaping the benefits. This publication will stay in my library along side others, such as Boutenko’s “Green for Life”
Much thanks to all who contributed to this thread. It has been a pleasure hearing of your experience and knowledge.
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Good to hear from you, see you in 2014!
j/k
That’s funny, and your right, I don’t think I’ve posted since the mid 90’s. Clinton was President I believe.