Bodybuilding for a Daniel Craig Type Body?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
waylanderxx wrote:
prodigy_2007 wrote:
Frankly, I’m just baffled as to how you can train for 8 years and not have arms over 16 inches. I’ve been training correctly and intensely for maybe 2 months and I’m at 16 inches. Put on 25lbs, too. Also, I’m 170 at about 12% bf. Casey Butts said my max potential is 171 at 8%. I have to laugh.

Pictures please? I guess in another 2 months you should be up to around 17, then 18 by Christmas and maybe 21 by next Summmer.

Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.

If you think Frank Zane was small, you might want to consider sharing that pot with us.

Correct - Frank Zane was not small and he had an incredible physique. If bodybuilding went back to that kind of ideal it would be a dream. However, Zane WASN’T NATURAL and he could ‘only’ get his arms to around 18 inches! I rest my god damn case - here’s one of the classic bodybuilders whose arms were 18 inches on roids. If he was a natural today and posted here saying my arms are only 16 inches Mr X would eat him for breakfast! Oh let me guess - the steroids didn’t help him build 18 inch guns and then get ripped and keep them - yeah right. Respect to the man for only light juicing.

Just for you, here’s a picture of me 2 years ago, natural, at somewhere between 255-260 lbs. My arms were a little over 18" then, now they are 20. I’m 18 years old in this photo, with 3 years training.

Do you think I’m fat in this picture? That’s obviously the only way I got them that large, was by carrying a bunch of fat on them.

Wait are those abs in the picture? Hm…

sigh

I’m not sure that post deserved a response.

Either way, clearly your results were impossible and I am sure this has to be photoshop.

It seems as if keeping my profile locked immediately points out some of the morons too lazy to even look around the forums before they comment.

Logic fail: If you don’t get down to 7% body fat, you must be a sumo wrestler.

Uh, yeah.[/quote]

haha well he wanted pictures :slight_smile:

Seriously though, I think it’s obvious I have better than average genetics for building muscle, but that doesn’t mean anything. I am no where near an elite level in that regard, so if someone like me can get that size in 3 years a huge amount of others can as well. Some will get their faster, and some slower but nearly anyone can accomplish that with some hard work and consistency.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
BrownTrout wrote:
In my past experiences reading Prof. X’s posts it seems that maximum size is the only goal he considers worthy of calling bodybuilding. X, what are your opinions on people like Steve Reeves, Jack Lalanne and Frank Zane? They were big for the time, but when you hear allot of the classic guys talk they don’t appear too horribly interested in trading what they had ( still have if your jack) for the modern type physiques of today. Does this mean that they’re not bodybuilders?

What the hell are you talking about? So, because I see someone lifting for ten years to still have 15" arms as a waste of fucking time this means I hate Steve Reeves and Frank Zane? Could you please, I mean fucking PLEASE point out to me the people on this board looking like Steve Reeves and Frank Zane who act like the guy did in this thread and his over-concern with limits?

Frank Zane would make most of you look like pussies…yet you invoke his name to justify being average?

The moment the people I am speaking to come even half way close to Frank Zane or Steve Reeves, there won’t be any need for me to say a fucking word.[/quote]

My apologies. In my defense, Captain Morgen was helping me with my post. I have just banned said pirate from my account forever. Forgive the rum logic.

[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
prodigy_2007 wrote:
Frankly, I’m just baffled as to how you can train for 8 years and not have arms over 16 inches. I’ve been training correctly and intensely for maybe 2 months and I’m at 16 inches. Put on 25lbs, too. Also, I’m 170 at about 12% bf. Casey Butts said my max potential is 171 at 8%. I have to laugh.

Pictures please? I guess in another 2 months you should be up to around 17, then 18 by Christmas and maybe 21 by next Summmer.

Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.

If you think Frank Zane was small, you might want to consider sharing that pot with us.

Correct - Frank Zane was not small and he had an incredible physique. If bodybuilding went back to that kind of ideal it would be a dream. However, Zane WASN’T NATURAL and he could ‘only’ get his arms to around 18 inches! I rest my god damn case - here’s one of the classic bodybuilders whose arms were 18 inches on roids. If he was a natural today and posted here saying my arms are only 16 inches Mr X would eat him for breakfast! Oh let me guess - the steroids didn’t help him build 18 inch guns and then get ripped and keep them - yeah right. Respect to the man for only light juicing.

Just for you, here’s a picture of me 2 years ago, natural, at somewhere between 255-260 lbs. My arms were a little over 18" then, now they are 20. I’m 18 years old in this photo, with 3 years training.

Do you think I’m fat in this picture? That’s obviously the only way I got them that large, was by carrying a bunch of fat on them.

Wait are those abs in the picture? Hm…

sigh[/quote]

If I could be that “fat” by my 3rd year of training, I’d be very, very happy.

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

If I could be that “fat” by my 3rd year of training, I’d be very, very happy.[/quote]

x fucking 2

That’s the whole point. Everyone is NOT Professor X nor waylanderxx. There will always be outliers in every field, even Butts admitted that. Should you STRIVE to be the best, yes of course. Should you expect to be the best - fuck no. If a person trained for 8 years and does not have a lean 18+" arms (that everyone is “supposed” to have - look at Frank Zane, he is small, right?) so what. Too bad, that person is NOT an outlier and no amount of fantasizing will change that. Maybe synthol on the other hand…

on top of all that cgi bullshit you also have to remember that before the camera rolled he was getting a huge pump in his chest and delts with carb loading and NO supps.

never look at professional video or photography for any kind of inspiration. it’s just not going to happen.

also, in metaphorical terms. lets say a ronnie coleman is 100 feet away, and a daniel craig is 25 feet away.

if someone wants to get to ronnie, they need to take big hard steps and leaps.

now, if you wanted to be craig, why in the fuck would you shuffle your feet.

aim high, take big effort and big steps to reach it, and enjoy reaching somewhere in the middle.

[quote]Dre the Hatchet wrote:
booooooooooorring[/quote]

Props for the Dragon Warrior reference

[quote]schultzie wrote:
on top of all that cgi bullshit you also have to remember that before the camera rolled he was getting a huge pump in his chest and delts with carb loading and NO supps.

never look at professional video or photography for any kind of inspiration. it’s just not going to happen.

also, in metaphorical terms. lets say a ronnie coleman is 100 feet away, and a daniel craig is 25 feet away.

if someone wants to get to ronnie, they need to take big hard steps and leaps.

now, if you wanted to be craig, why in the fuck would you shuffle your feet.

aim high, take big effort and big steps to reach it, and enjoy reaching somewhere in the middle.[/quote]

I disagree. Ronnie has so much mass that his gravitational field would draw others to him much faster than Craig would.

[quote]Nikiforos wrote:
Nominal Prospect wrote:
Nikiforos wrote:
JamesBrawn007 wrote:

Second: for the first summer ever this year I walked the beach at 175lbs ripped - and it paid off. The ladies love it and my personal life has benefitted hugely as a result. I know this wouldn’t be the case if I was 220lbs since I would be more likely to be labelled in the ‘freak’ camp.

I’m sure you look fine and all, but 220 pounds would label you a freak? Seriously?

No. Anything above 200 lbs. will.

Finally some sense to this thread. Let’s raise a glass to OUR FUHRER!![/quote]

…by average standards.

[quote]ckallander wrote:
After about TWO MONTHS of curl training I started to develop huge arms. I lifted 35 pounders every other day, or there about, for three sets of 10. My arms went from nothing to jacked while I never worked out any other part of my body. Now I don’t do direct arm work anymore so they shrunk considerably.

Point is: I wanted gunz. I bought weights, I lifted them for two months, and they got big. Now they weren’t 18 inches, but I remember one time a solid 16.

I feel like people who are self-proclaimed “unable” to gain muscle quickly just aren’t training enough. [/quote]

Cool story Bro!