In my past experiences reading Prof. X’s posts it seems that maximum size is the only goal he considers worthy of calling bodybuilding. X, what are your opinions on people like Steve Reeves, Jack Lalanne and Frank Zane? They were big for the time, but when you hear allot of the classic guys talk they don’t appear too horribly interested in trading what they had ( still have if your jack) for the modern type physiques of today. Does this mean that they’re not bodybuilders?
[quote]Ryan Zielonka wrote:
The ‘big’ guys I’ve met and chatted with at gyms know nothing about training nor nutrition.
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And I have a 9 inch penis…
[quote]hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Anyone can participate in bodybuilding, but the vast majority of people will not look like bodybuilders, natty or otherwise. I had bigger arms when I was fatter, now I don’t. I like to participate in bodybuilding but realize that I am just average/close to the mean on the bell curve. I fantasize about being at least 2 standard deviation above the mean, but when I wake up I am just me, again.
Most average people (over 97% of the population) will never have over 18"+ arms with 6 pack abs. So what? Tough cookies. The same can be said for any endeavor in life - professional sports, making millions of dollars, fucking supermodels, etc…
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Dude, I want to route for you so bad, but you make it fucking impossible.
The whole point is, and some of you need to read the following real slow and let it sink in:
People RARELY meet expectations in life. So if your expectations are to make 10 million, you are more likely to make 8 million dollars, than if your expectations were to only make 8 million. If your expectations are to make 5 million, there is no way on gods green earth, under any fucking circumstance you will make 8 million, fuck if you ever see 10. You have got to think and believe big to achieve big. If you think and believe small, you will forever be small.
Some of you fucking people shoot yourself in the foot, and then spend more time looking for someone to comfort you with an article or stupid fucking “science” study to tell you why you can’t fucking walk anymore, then you do trying to accomplish shit. Stop worrying about what you can’t do, and go out and try to do shit for once. It really isn’t that hard.
Fuck I hate people that don’t live their god damn lives.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
hawaiilifterMike wrote:
Anyone can participate in bodybuilding, but the vast majority of people will not look like bodybuilders, natty or otherwise. I had bigger arms when I was fatter, now I don’t. I like to participate in bodybuilding but realize that I am just average/close to the mean on the bell curve. I fantasize about being at least 2 standard deviation above the mean, but when I wake up I am just me, again.
Most average people (over 97% of the population) will never have over 18"+ arms with 6 pack abs. So what? Tough cookies. The same can be said for any endeavor in life - professional sports, making millions of dollars, fucking supermodels, etc…
Dude, I want to route for you so bad, but you make it fucking impossible.
The whole point is, and some of you need to read the following real slow and let it sink in:
People RARELY meet expectations in life. So if your expectations are to make 10 million, you are more likely to make 8 million dollars, than if your expectations were to only make 8 million. If your expectations are to make 5 million, there is no way on gods green earth, under any fucking circumstance you will make 8 million, fuck if you ever see 10. You have got to think and believe big to achieve big. If you think and believe small, you will forever be small.
Some of you fucking people shoot yourself in the foot, and then spend more time looking for someone to comfort you with an article or stupid fucking “science” study to tell you why you can’t fucking walk anymore, then you do trying to accomplish shit. Stop worrying about what you can’t do, and go out and try to do shit for once. It really isn’t that hard.
Fuck I hate people that don’t live their god damn lives.
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Well said.
[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
In my past experiences reading Prof. X’s posts it seems that maximum size is the only goal he considers worthy of calling bodybuilding. X, what are your opinions on people like Steve Reeves, Jack Lalanne and Frank Zane? They were big for the time, but when you hear allot of the classic guys talk they don’t appear too horribly interested in trading what they had ( still have if your jack) for the modern type physiques of today. Does this mean that they’re not bodybuilders? [/quote]
What the hell are you talking about? So, because I see someone lifting for ten years to still have 15" arms as a waste of fucking time this means I hate Steve Reeves and Frank Zane? Could you please, I mean fucking PLEASE point out to me the people on this board looking like Steve Reeves and Frank Zane who act like the guy did in this thread and his over-concern with limits?
Frank Zane would make most of you look like pussies…yet you invoke his name to justify being average?
The moment the people I am speaking to come even half way close to Frank Zane or Steve Reeves, there won’t be any need for me to say a fucking word.
[quote]countingbeans wrote:
Ryan Zielonka wrote:
The ‘big’ guys I’ve met and chatted with at gyms know nothing about training nor nutrition.
And I have a 9 inch penis…
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Most of the people who really believe the big guys know nothing are the type who think if they aren’t quoting a study or some author that this means they don’t know anything. The truth is, most of the shit newbs concern themselves with does not matter. No one ever had t go to grad school to understand how to work hard in the gym and most of the people I see are NOT working that hard. If you finish your last set and you aren’t even out of breath, you have missed basics that “big guys” figured out from the start.
Frankly, I’m just baffled as to how you can train for 8 years and not have arms over 16 inches. I’ve been training correctly and intensely for maybe 2 months and I’m at 16 inches. Put on 25lbs, too. Also, I’m 170 at about 12% bf. Casey Butts said my max potential is 171 at 8%. I have to laugh.
After about TWO MONTHS of curl training I started to develop huge arms. I lifted 35 pounders every other day, or there about, for three sets of 10. My arms went from nothing to jacked while I never worked out any other part of my body. Now I don’t do direct arm work anymore so they shrunk considerably.
Point is: I wanted gunz. I bought weights, I lifted them for two months, and they got big. Now they weren’t 18 inches, but I remember one time a solid 16.
I feel like people who are self-proclaimed “unable” to gain muscle quickly just aren’t training enough.
[quote]ApplCobbler wrote:
I never understooad why people would get pissed off at the idea of wanting a body like Daniel Craig or Brad Pitt in Fight Club (or, even better, Snatch). Daniel Craig looks like a (physically attainable) beast, and Brad Pitt is cut as hell.
Some people don’t want to be 6’ and weighing 250 pounds, and unless you’re a bodybuilder or performance athlete, it doesn’t have that much point aside from bragging rights.
A trainer complimented my physique a couple months ago saying I was very Daniel Craig-like, and I did in fact take it as a compliment.[/quote]
I don’t think Daniel Craig looks bad, but I don’t think he looks beastly. I think he looks like a normal, in-shape male who is neither too skinny or fat.
[quote]ckallander wrote:
After about TWO MONTHS of curl training I started to develop huge arms. I lifted 35 pounders every other day, or there about, for three sets of 10. My arms went from nothing to jacked while I never worked out any other part of my body. Now I don’t do direct arm work anymore so they shrunk considerably. Point is: I wanted gunz. I bought weights, I lifted them for two months, and they got big. Now they weren’t 18 inches, but I remember one time a solid 16.
I feel like people who are self-proclaimed “unable” to gain muscle quickly just aren’t training enough. [/quote]
This picture is the only way I can describe what I think about your post.
[quote]BrownTrout wrote:
In my past experiences reading Prof. X’s posts it seems that maximum size is the only goal he considers worthy of calling bodybuilding. X, what are your opinions on people like Steve Reeves, Jack Lalanne and Frank Zane? They were big for the time, but when you hear allot of the classic guys talk they don’t appear too horribly interested in trading what they had ( still have if your jack) for the modern type physiques of today. Does this mean that they’re not bodybuilders? [/quote]
If you think Frank Zane was small, you might want to consider sharing that pot with us.
Pictures please? I guess in another 2 months you should be up to around 17, then 18 by Christmas and maybe 21 by next Summmer.
Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.
Correct - Frank Zane was not small and he had an incredible physique. If bodybuilding went back to that kind of ideal it would be a dream. However, Zane WASN’T NATURAL and he could ‘only’ get his arms to around 18 inches! I rest my god damn case - here’s one of the classic bodybuilders whose arms were 18 inches on roids. If he was a natural today and posted here saying my arms are only 16 inches Mr X would eat him for breakfast! Oh let me guess - the steroids didn’t help him build 18 inch guns and then get ripped and keep them - yeah right. Respect to the man for only light juicing.
Just a couple of comments I can’t help making:
#1: I don’t think anyone in this thread (including me) ever said their goal was to look like Daniel Craig. When I’m sitting at my computer, I wonder stuff… It doesn’t necessarily mean anything. But in this case, I started wondering about personal trainers. And I thought about Craig because there was a bond commercial on earlier.
I thought, “hmmm… he’s a lot better built than most actors. But the goal in hollywood is different. I wonder if a training routine for someone like him would be different.” So I asked. That’s the sum of what started this thread. To those who freaked out over my question, I say “whateva…”
#2: There was an easy answer to the question, and someone got it right off the bat: Nope. Just train hard and stop when you look like you want to look.
Lol. But thanks for the drama.
[quote]prodigy_2007 wrote:
Frankly, I’m just baffled as to how you can train for 8 years and not have arms over 16 inches. I’ve been training correctly and intensely for maybe 2 months and I’m at 16 inches. Put on 25lbs, too. Also, I’m 170 at about 12% bf. Casey Butts said my max potential is 171 at 8%. I have to laugh.
Pictures please? I guess in another 2 months you should be up to around 17, then 18 by Christmas and maybe 21 by next Summmer.
Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.
If you think Frank Zane was small, you might want to consider sharing that pot with us.
Correct - Frank Zane was not small and he had an incredible physique. If bodybuilding went back to that kind of ideal it would be a dream. However, Zane WASN’T NATURAL and he could ‘only’ get his arms to around 18 inches! I rest my god damn case - here’s one of the classic bodybuilders whose arms were 18 inches on roids. If he was a natural today and posted here saying my arms are only 16 inches Mr X would eat him for breakfast! Oh let me guess - the steroids didn’t help him build 18 inch guns and then get ripped and keep them - yeah right. Respect to the man for only light juicing.
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Just for you, here’s a picture of me 2 years ago, natural, at somewhere between 255-260 lbs. My arms were a little over 18" then, now they are 20. I’m 18 years old in this photo, with 3 years training.
Do you think I’m fat in this picture? That’s obviously the only way I got them that large, was by carrying a bunch of fat on them.
Wait are those abs in the picture? Hm…
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The people on this site get more retarded every month.
[quote]prodigy_2007 wrote:
Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.[/quote]
Okay, this proves you are just trolling. Go tell Lyle I said hi, and tell your Sheppard he is still a small faceless coward. Now STFU and GTFO.
The fact that you understand DICK about the use of AAS is apparent. I mean I’m sure you have talked to every pro on earth and just KNOW their protocol, so you certainly know how much Zane used. I mean all those baseball players sure are ready for the Olympia stage. My buddy, who looks small and weak like you, he has done three fucking cycles. (Obviously he is a moron.)
But wait, what is it “Mr. Super Science” says? “All professional athletes take AAS!!!11!! Period!!!one!!!” (Which I’m sure he isn’t ASSuming at all. I mean he does science right…)
You need to just go back where you came from. You are wasting bandwidth here.
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[quote]Professor X wrote:
countingbeans wrote:
Ryan Zielonka wrote:
The ‘big’ guys I’ve met and chatted with at gyms know nothing about training nor nutrition.
And I have a 9 inch penis…
Most of the people who really believe the big guys know nothing are the type who think if they aren’t quoting a study or some author that this means they don’t know anything. The truth is, most of the shit newbs concern themselves with does not matter. No one ever had t go to grad school to understand how to work hard in the gym and most of the people I see are NOT working that hard. If you finish your last set and you aren’t even out of breath, you have missed basics that “big guys” figured out from the start.[/quote]
If these guys were less vocal, I would feel bad for them. Like the fat chick at work who eats her lean cuisine pasta dish everyday, who actually thinks it is helping.
[quote]Okay, this proves you are just trolling. Go tell Lyle I said hi, and tell your Sheppard he is still a small faceless coward. Now STFU and GTFO.
Respect to the man for only light juicing.
The fact that you understand DICK about the use of AAS is apparent. I mean I’m sure you have talked to every pro on earth and just KNOW their protocol, so you certainly know how much Zane used. I mean all those baseball players sure are ready for the Olympia stage. My buddy, who looks small and weak like you, he has done three fucking cycles. (Obviously he is a moron.)
But wait, what is it “Mr. Super Science” says? “All professional athletes take AAS!!!11!! Period!!!one!!!” (Which I’m sure he isn’t ASSuming at all. I mean he does science right…)
You need to just go back where you came from. You are wasting bandwidth here. [/quote]
LOL! The chances are that Mr X has a very impressive physique (regardless of whether I’d like his body fat or not) - thus when he takes a dig at me and suggests that I shouldn’t be posting on a Bodybuilding forum, perhaps he has a fair point. However, when I see the like of you posting crap at me and the previous poster and I then check out your physiques on your profile it makes me laugh!
Fair enough I should get some photos on my profile before saying that but seriously look in the mirror before making comments like that. Regarding steroids what point are you trying to make about my comments about Frank Zane?
Agreed, you don’t just take steroids and WOW look at me if you’re someone who doesn’t know how to train/eat in the first place, but if steroids don’t make a BIG difference when you have good training and diet in place then no one would take them. My god - I suppose Zane only took some juice for that extra 1/4 inch.
[quote]prodigy_2007 wrote:
LOL! The chances are that Mr X has a very impressive physique (regardless of whether I’d like his body fat or not) - thus when he takes a dig at me and suggests that I shouldn’t be posting on a Bodybuilding forum, perhaps he has a fair point. However, when I see the like of you posting crap at me and the previous poster and I then check out your physiques on your profile it makes me laugh![/quote]
a) I have public pictures, you don’t. You are officially a spineless coward like your Shepard, good work. Now go put his cock back in your mouth.
b) Fuck the rest of the letters. You are a waste of my time. God I’m so fucking happy my brain isn’t wired like yours.
Laughable.
[quote]Regarding steroids what point are you trying to make about my comments about Frank Zane? Agreed, you don’t just take steroids and WOW look at me if you’re someone who doesn’t know how to train/eat in the first place, but if steroids don’t make a BIG difference when you have good training and diet in place then no one would take them. My god - I suppose Zane only took some juice for that extra 1/4 inch.
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Never go full retard…
[quote]waylanderxx wrote:
prodigy_2007 wrote:
Frankly, I’m just baffled as to how you can train for 8 years and not have arms over 16 inches. I’ve been training correctly and intensely for maybe 2 months and I’m at 16 inches. Put on 25lbs, too. Also, I’m 170 at about 12% bf. Casey Butts said my max potential is 171 at 8%. I have to laugh.
Pictures please? I guess in another 2 months you should be up to around 17, then 18 by Christmas and maybe 21 by next Summmer.
Another point to think about. Sumo wrestlers carry one heck of alot of muscle mass - many suggest it’s more than a pro bodybuilder. Can we now consider sumo wrestlers to be good bodybuilders Prof X? Prof X can you also post some pictures, since you’re the apparent ‘Daddy’ around here, I’d genuinely be interested to see who is talking and your profile is locked.
If you think Frank Zane was small, you might want to consider sharing that pot with us.
Correct - Frank Zane was not small and he had an incredible physique. If bodybuilding went back to that kind of ideal it would be a dream. However, Zane WASN’T NATURAL and he could ‘only’ get his arms to around 18 inches! I rest my god damn case - here’s one of the classic bodybuilders whose arms were 18 inches on roids. If he was a natural today and posted here saying my arms are only 16 inches Mr X would eat him for breakfast! Oh let me guess - the steroids didn’t help him build 18 inch guns and then get ripped and keep them - yeah right. Respect to the man for only light juicing.
Just for you, here’s a picture of me 2 years ago, natural, at somewhere between 255-260 lbs. My arms were a little over 18" then, now they are 20. I’m 18 years old in this photo, with 3 years training.
Do you think I’m fat in this picture? That’s obviously the only way I got them that large, was by carrying a bunch of fat on them.
Wait are those abs in the picture? Hm…
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I’m not sure that post deserved a response.
Either way, clearly your results were impossible and I am sure this has to be photoshop.
It seems as if keeping my profile locked immediately points out some of the morons too lazy to even look around the forums before they comment.
Logic fail: If you don’t get down to 7% body fat, you must be a sumo wrestler.
Uh, yeah.