Anyone try these compared to the Dante’s reverse forearm curls that Carlitosway posted? I noticed Dante advocates cocking the wrist back while the kpipe curls guy bends his wrists down. Both guys have pretty nasty forearms, so I’m sure both work pretty well.
Either way, I’ll try both out tomorrow to see which burns my forearms more.[/quote]
In my experience Dante’s cable reverse curl is probably the best thing for building the brachioradialis, whereas kpipe curls seem to work great for the meaty underbelly of the forearm as well as the brachialis in the upper arm.[/quote]
Well it sounds like I’ll have to incorporate both into my workouts (along with either hammer curls or pinwheel curls)
[quote]dez6485 wrote:
can someone point out the difference between a hammer curl and a pinwheel curl for me? is it just that hammers should be at the sides, up and down, vs. pinwheels come across the body somewhat?[/quote]
Essentially yes. Hammer curls are done straight up and down while pinwheels come across the body.
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Doesn’t pinwheel curls normally have a shorter ROM than hammer curls too? I’ve always considered hammers to be more of a complete arm exercise where as pinwheels are a better forearm movement, am I incorrect here?
Anyone try these compared to the Dante’s reverse forearm curls that Carlitosway posted? I noticed Dante advocates cocking the wrist back while the kpipe curls guy bends his wrists down. Both guys have pretty nasty forearms, so I’m sure both work pretty well.
Either way, I’ll try both out tomorrow to see which burns my forearms more.[/quote]
In my experience Dante’s cable reverse curl is probably the best thing for building the brachioradialis, whereas kpipe curls seem to work great for the meaty underbelly of the forearm as well as the brachialis in the upper arm.[/quote]
any one got a video of these? i mean they seem pretty self explanatory but i wasnt sure if Dante had a special way of doing 'em… i just dont trust the videos of the wimpy guys doing them for some reason
I haven’t done barbell curls in a long time because I get bad pain in my forearms from them. However, tonight I thought I’d try some wide grip barbell curls, and they didn’t seem to irritate my forearms. Very cool. I did feel a better contraction compared to normal grip curls, but does anyone know if they hit the biceps differently than standard barbell curls ?
The traditional consensus is that wide-grip barbell curls allow you to use more weight and stimulate the short head of the biceps more (because your arms are externally rotated the wider you go), whereas close-grip barbell curls will hit more of the long head of the bicep.
And for myself, I’ve found this to be true, but I also think these things depend a lot on your body structure and also the form you use (elbows in front vs. elbows to your side vs elbows drifting backward).
99% of the bodybuilders I see use a wide grip for straight bar curls, and do more narrow work on things like preacher curls and cable curls.
appreciate it. i saw that video after i posted. i did not know that was dante…
anyway not sure how well they are working yet but i just enjoy doing rev-grip
curls with the EZ bar (thumbless grip). i think they are hitting the forearms in
the same way but im not really sure im doing the wrist-flexion he describes
I remember reading how Larry Scott worked up to 225 lbs in the preacher curl for 6 reps when he was in his prime. Lou Ferrigno incline curling 100 lb. dumbbells in “Pumping Iron” always blew me away too.
I’ve added these in the past few weeks on ‘biceps day’. I’m digging them and can really feel them. Anyone else do these and if so, what rep ranges are you in?
I’m finding that I don’t get too much out of it going below 10 reps. Just feels like bad form (like trying to hitch to get momentum) versus working the arm, unlike regular db alt curls where working up to a weight for 5-6 reps still feels pretty good without spastically throwing the weight up.
Also, I’ve been experimenting a bit with cable curls (1-arm), and by far curling from the side (arm extended 10-20 degrees below horizontal) and curling the weight in toward torso (hanging on to the other side of the cable machine with other arm) works my biceps second only to preacher curls. Hard to cheat the weight and the constant tension is incredible.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Not necessarily a bodybuilder, nor does he have the biggest arms proportionate to his size, but still pretty damn impressive. Here’s Magnus Samuelsson curling 140kg (around 300 lbs) for 4 reps (skip to about 0:37 for the BB curls):
Who says that curls aren’t functional? ;)[/quote]
Damn, 60 cm is over 23 and a half inches. Big joints and bad peaks I guess, they don’t look that big.[/quote]
The fact that he’s 6’7 tall also contributes to the arms not looking so huge.
I’ve added these in the past few weeks on ‘biceps day’. I’m digging them and can really feel them. Anyone else do these and if so, what rep ranges are you in?
I’m finding that I don’t get too much out of it going below 10 reps. Just feels like bad form (like trying to hitch to get momentum) versus working the arm, unlike regular db alt curls where working up to a weight for 5-6 reps still feels pretty good without spastically throwing the weight up.
Also, I’ve been experimenting a bit with cable curls (1-arm), and by far curling from the side (arm extended 10-20 degrees below horizontal) and curling the weight in toward torso (hanging on to the other side of the cable machine with other arm) works my biceps second only to preacher curls. Hard to cheat the weight and the constant tension is incredible.
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Steely, I’ve recently added in K-Pipe curls and I feel the same way. Below 10 I dont get much mind muscle connection going and it seems like I’m using to much body swing to get the reps. I’ve been going between 15-20 and it burns like hell! Keep in mind I am much smaller than you.
I’ve done a lot of reverse curls, but never thought to bend the wrist down like in K-Pipe. But of course if you bend the wrist down and flex without a weight, it flexes the forearm muscles, so it makes sense that curls in that position could work the muscle even more. Will have to try K-Pipes tomorrow.
Please discuss: Can someone build big biceps without ‘free’ standing dumbbell curls. That is, using preacher curls (db, ez bar, etc), BB curls, and cables.
Also, do biceps ‘fire’ differently depending on height/position of arm? For example, triceps get worked differently with overhead extensions versus pushdowns with various hand positions. Do high (ie. head level) curls from the side (think double biceps pose with cables) work the biceps much differently than, say, low cable curls?
I haven’t done free standing curls in well over a year. I feel it’s easier to gauge progress this way because being forced into a more strict controlled movement let’s me know that I’m actually getting stronger each week as opposed to maybe using slightly looser form to get another rep or a bit more weight. I’ll keep training them in this manner as long as my biceps continue to grow, which they are.
Current bicep routine (trained once a week supersetted with triceps)
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Not necessarily a bodybuilder, nor does he have the biggest arms proportionate to his size, but still pretty damn impressive. Here’s Magnus Samuelsson curling 140kg (around 300 lbs) for 4 reps (skip to about 0:37 for the BB curls):
Who says that curls aren’t functional? ;)[/quote]
Damn, 60 cm is over 23 and a half inches. Big joints and bad peaks I guess, they don’t look that big.[/quote]
The fact that he’s 6’7 tall also contributes to the arms not looking so huge. [/quote]
true but also the fact that He gets a vey thick frame (big bones diameter) doesn’t help him to seem big as he really is but on the other hand if you look a pic with him and enother (big) guy you 'll see the difference in size…
I think is more impressive a thin bones guy with 17inch arm than a 21inch guy with large wrist diameter but chances of first guy to broke his ulna (forearm bone) while heavy curling are much higher, just my thoughts…
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
Not necessarily a bodybuilder, nor does he have the biggest arms proportionate to his size, but still pretty damn impressive. Here’s Magnus Samuelsson curling 140kg (around 300 lbs) for 4 reps (skip to about 0:37 for the BB curls):
Who says that curls aren’t functional? ;)[/quote]
Damn, 60 cm is over 23 and a half inches. Big joints and bad peaks I guess, they don’t look that big.[/quote]
The fact that he’s 6’7 tall also contributes to the arms not looking so huge. [/quote]
true but also the fact that He gets a vey thick frame (big bones diameter) doesn’t help him to seem big as he really is but on the other hand if you look a pic with him and enother (big) guy you 'll see the difference in size…
I think is more impressive a thin bones guy with 17inch arm than a 21inch guy with large wrist diameter but chances of first guy to broke his ulna (forearm bone) while heavy curling are much higher, just my thoughts…[/quote]
