ya well the amount of muscle u have is prob so small thats why u feel that way[/quote]
OK, let’t see now. Bodybuilding is judged simply on how you look like. Same thing with beauty pageants. It isn’t about how you train, or eat, or which drugs you use. It is simply showing off the hard work which undoubtedly created the physique. At a BB comp, no one asks you how much you can bench, no one asks how many miles you ran on the treadmill. Things which are taken into account are the muscle mass, deffinition, symmetry, separation, proportions, lack of subcutaneous water, skin tone, and the posing.
None of which is akin to any sort of sport, it’s all purely visual.
[quote]Airtruth wrote:
WS4JB wrote:
crod266 wrote:
jtg987 wrote:
John Q. Adequate wrote:
It’s not a sport, it’s a pageant…
yep
ya well the amount of muscle u have is prob so small thats why u feel that way
Come on Crod, you cannot deny the similarities…
They may prepare differently, but once the competition starts, a beauty pageant and a bodybuilding contest are pretty damn close, we just have flexing instead of answering questions about world peace.
The pageants should require the women to wear bathing suits the entire time also.[/quote]
[quote]ghostofbellstar wrote:
i think they should have powerlifting… but i dont think powerlifting is as widespread as bodybuilding[/quote]
Good response. Powerlifting fits the Olympics better than bodybuilding, however it will never happen. too many FEDS, and too many issues with rules. single ply doulble ply mono lift no mono lift, they will never come to an agreement.
i dont think bodybuiling is a pagent, your on stage showing what u have worked hard to acheive, just like any other sport in the world… its just that they judge on athstheics etc… much like diving, synch swimming, rythmic gym and maybe some others… so i cant see why it shouldnt really be in the olympics other than it has a bad reputation…
But in those sports, the things that you practiced, and got really good at, you actually do “on stage”.
Ok, how about this issue, how do they decide who wins ? A couple years ago the biggest man was winning contests, now things have shifted back the other way. A basket in basketball is always 2 or 3 points, a 45 second 400 meter run is always a 45 second run, these things can’t be changed.
But in bodybuilding, we have seen the idea of what a perfect score would be change, and it will continue to do so. It just can’t be an Olympic sport.
My apologies if this doesn’t make sense, i just downed a pot of coffee, headed to the gym now.
Just to reiterate; if gymnastics, figure skating, synchronized swimming, highboard diving, rhythmic gymnastics where they play with fucking toys, are all Olympic events, then so can bodybuilding. Those are all subjectively judged sports.
[quote]ghostofbellstar wrote:
i dont think bodybuiling is a pagent, your on stage showing what u have worked hard to acheive, just like any other sport in the world… its just that they judge on athstheics etc… much like diving, synch swimming, rythmic gym and maybe some others… so i cant see why it shouldnt really be in the olympics other than it has a bad reputation…[/quote]
Bodybuilding, by nature, is a pageant.
Beauty girls have to work hard. Even the physical aspects. Like Bodybuilding. There are not fat beauty girls.
Unlike a sport, beauty girls do not have to display physical prowess on stage. Like Bodybuilding.
Beauty girls have to pose. Like Bodybuilding.
They’re the same thing.
You cannot relate bodybuilding to the other subjective sports because the sports you mentioned require the participants to display athletic prowess DURING the event, where as in bodybuilding contests, there is no display of athletic prowess. As a result that is a completely moot point.
Its not a matter of bad reputation. Its simply because bodybuilding is not a sport. You do not practice a specific skill set that must be optimized come competition time.
[quote]GluteusGigantis wrote:
Just to reiterate; if gymnastics, figure skating, synchronized swimming, highboard diving, rhythmic gymnastics where they play with fucking toys, are all Olympic events, then so can bodybuilding. Those are all subjectively judged sports.
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They are subjectively judged (which drives me crazy) but there is a high level of physical skill (balance, flexibility, etc.) displayed that is then judged. The display of bodybuilding training is purely visual and largely static similar to a pageant. It doesn’t belong in the Olympics IMO.
Because 300 pound men with 4% body fat would show up at the Olympics, 99% would pass the drug tests, and everyone on Earth would suddenly realize that everybody in athletic sports is on something and that the tests are rigged to ensure that a person has to fuck up to test positive and not get away with it. Not so good for the anti-drug regimes around the world.
bodybuilding on contest day will never be deemed sport, if the training leading up to and through contest prep were made available to joe public then it couldn’t be denied as sport. Unfortunately people don’t get it, they fail to see the work behind building a Mr. O, or an Arnold Classic Champion.
yeah, i forgot what pro said this…but he said the olympia would be a lot better if they actually televised the pros training that led up to the event…you know kind of like HBO’s 24/7 and boxing…
I think people would appreciate the sport a lot more and the personalities involved in the sport if they saw what bodybuilders actually do to achieve their physiques…
[quote]D Public wrote:
yeah, i forgot what pro said this[/quote] Dorian? [quote]…but he said the olympia would be a lot better if they actually televised the pros training that led up to the event…you know kind of like HBO’s 24/7 and boxing…
I think people would appreciate the sport a lot more and the personalities involved in the sport if they saw what bodybuilders actually do to achieve their physiques… [/quote]
[quote]supabeast wrote:
Because 300 pound men with 4% body fat would show up at the Olympics, 99% would pass the drug tests, and everyone on Earth would suddenly realize that everybody in athletic sports is on something and that the tests are rigged to ensure that a person has to fuck up to test positive and not get away with it. Not so good for the anti-drug regimes around the world.[/quote]
yeah that is true, i didnt really think about that… i think charlie francis said that 80% of Olympic athletes at Seoul had something wrong with their endocrine profile, because of drug use
Also, every Olympic athlete, on the day of competition is in the best condition of their lives, most bodybuilders on competition day are in their worst.