Bodybuilder on Dr. Phil

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Some day, that guy will be begging her to come back to him.
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I would say the opposite is more likely to be true.

Tell me, what sort of market do you think there exists for a 41 year old recently divorced woman with kids?[/quote]

Well, I am 37, was a single mother and my husband now is 8 years younger than I am. I don’t hear him complain at all - quite the opposite - and he spends a shitload of time with me and we also lift together. We do everything as a team and actually like each others company.

If you want to live your life as though you’re single, you probably shouldn’t get married in the first place because you will have time and freedom restrictions. [/quote]

LOL.

Notice how this post doesn’t fault the woman for NOT going to the gym with him or doing it like a “team”.

Any competitive pro bodybuilder I know of, if they are married, has a woman who is helping them with the meals and the training. They know it is a full time job.

Since when did it suddenly become so NOT?

Because she wants more alone time?

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[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Agree with x, how anybody can watch this and not see it is contrived and manufactured is crazy. The ambushing this dolt gets is obvious. All in an attempt to make phil look like a hero, he is self righteous asshole and truly hope he gets a 2x4 to the face. [/quote]

Matty tell us how you really feel.

I still have not seen video, I am just talking out my ass.[/quote]

actually Im trying to deflect the rumors that I am card carrying member of the Dr. Phil fan club :slight_smile:
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Isn’t that you, 2nd to last row, 4th person from the right?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dirtman wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]dirtman wrote:

Agreed but he needs to balance out his life a bit more. 4 hours a day is a bit excessive when you have children and a wife.
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??

Even for Ronnie Coleman?

He competes and clearly takes it seriously. You don’t look like that by accident. Hell, you don’t look anything close to that without some major time invested. I don’t spend 4 whole hours in the gym (and I seriously doubt he actually does either…they probably added in tanning and everything else) but I know people who have. If a woman sticks with a guy like that, why tell him he needs balance ten years later when he still acts the same?

The problem is that guy got married. That is both the fault of HER and HIM.[/quote]

I have all the Ronnie Coleman videos. He is in the gym tops 3.5 hours. And I would include travel time too/from his house in that time frame. He also has a gym in the addition on the back of the house with a StairMaster and a treadmill in his room. When he needs to do extra prep work that is where he is. This is what I mean by balancing out your life. He can still be at home and still find extra time to train up if needed.
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Are all of you really believing they gave the exact amount of time he spent in the gym and didn’t round up at all?

Really?

Come on![/quote]

Well you have to wonder why the guy never protested about the amount of time he stated.

… Wait a min …do you think this could be a “rigged” interview to give this guy exposure. 15 mins of fame to boost his bodybuilding career. Or its all faked or a trade off cause Dr Phil is out of guests and shit. Kinda like Jerry Springer?

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]howie424 wrote:
His wife is fucking hot.[/quote]

You have a very loose definition of “hot”.[/quote]

Maybe he likes more of the “loose” part[/quote]

I only know she wasn’t turning me on either so if he is also getting the constant nagging along with it, I can see why he acts like that.

She married him because he was into bodybuilding and liked 20 somethings with big booties. She is worried now because she knows she isn’t bringing it and she stuck with a guy who bases his emotions on looks.

That is HER fault. Not his.[/quote]

This is true, but he also decided to get married and have three kids. You can’t do that and then expect to still live the single life. If you do, you end up with an ex-wife and kids with emotional trauma because dad wanted to spend 3-4 hours at the gym every day instead of hanging out with them.

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This. I don’t know why people use the whole “I was doing this before we got married” line as some sort of absolute moral justification for all types of selfish behaviour that, while acceptable for a single person, does not fit into the shared dynamic of married life. Especially when you add kids to the equation.

Why would you not expect certain aspects of your life need to change and adapt when you go from caring/being responsible only for yourself to having a family? This is beyond me. Furthermore, stuff you did in your 20’s becomes less attractive/acceptable to your mate into your 30’s and beyond. Yet whenever anybody brings this up it’s like “Stop trying to change me, this is who I am!” I think there is a reasonable expectation on the part of both spouses that the other person will continue to change/grow/evolve/adapt through the different phases of their lives.

If it is of paramount importance to you that you be able to do whatever the fuck you want whenever the fuck you want to whomever the fuck you want then yeah, don’t get married and definitely don’t have kids. Not rocket science.

Edit - BTW this isn’t necessarily specific to this situation, more the general attitude.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Shame on the woman for marrying him, but it’s still his fault. He took an oath. He isn’t living up to his oath. She should have known, but he’s still the problem.
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Marriage is the problem.

The rest of the problem lies with an insecure woman and a self obsessed man who are at completely different stages of their lives and want completely different things.

That woman knows her time is running out. It is just a sad fact of society (which I honestly think is slowly changing with people like Halle Berry still looking hot at damn near 50) that women in general do not become more desirable for marriage over 40…while a man’s worth is based much more on his income and goals over that age giving him the advantage.

She is worried now…and likely makes him aware of it daily. That was never going to work.[/quote]

Ever been married?

Still completely his fault. He made a promise and reneged. He isn’t being a man and owning the responsibilities he voluntarily entered into.

He chose her knowing what she was too.

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Some day, that guy will be begging her to come back to him.
[/quote]

I would say the opposite is more likely to be true.

Tell me, what sort of market do you think there exists for a 41 year old recently divorced woman with kids?[/quote]

Well, I am 37, was a single mother and my husband now is 8 years younger than I am. I don’t hear him complain at all - quite the opposite - and he spends a shitload of time with me and we also lift together. We do everything as a team and actually like each others company.

If you want to live your life as though you’re single, you probably shouldn’t get married in the first place because you will have time and freedom restrictions. [/quote]

Your husband probably has very few options.

Men with options like the guy in the video are not in the same category.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

[quote]therajraj wrote:

[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:
Some day, that guy will be begging her to come back to him.
[/quote]

I would say the opposite is more likely to be true.

Tell me, what sort of market do you think there exists for a 41 year old recently divorced woman with kids?[/quote]

Well, I am 37, was a single mother and my husband now is 8 years younger than I am. I don’t hear him complain at all - quite the opposite - and he spends a shitload of time with me and we also lift together. We do everything as a team and actually like each others company.

If you want to live your life as though you’re single, you probably shouldn’t get married in the first place because you will have time and freedom restrictions. [/quote]

LOL.

Notice how this post doesn’t fault the woman for NOT going to the gym with him or doing it like a “team”.

Any competitive pro bodybuilder I know of, if they are married, has a woman who is helping them with the meals and the training. They know it is a full time job.

Since when did it suddenly become so NOT?

Because she wants more alone time?[/quote]

She used to workout before the kids. They stated that already. Now here’s a hypothetical: maybe she wants to go to the gym with him and he won’t pay a sitter? I wasn’t faulting anyone as you suggested though. How could I? I don’t live with them.

In reference to the alone time, the wife did say that she wanted to do things with her husband but that he always comes home at the kid’s bed time. If it meant that much to him, he would make an effort to come home earlier sometimes.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

He chose her knowing what she was too.[/quote]

What was she? The show didn’t go into what she was like and how she measured up now? (well, it wasn’t presented that way)

I agree he made a vow.

I also know a vow doesn’t change who you are.

Maybe people should be more intelligent and accept that a vow does not change who you are…and then maybe there will be less divorce.

You fault him here because the reason is superficial. What about for marriages where the reason is deeper and more emotionally charged?

Bottom line…if you want a long term partner, you need to accept who they are…and all of the bad shit that comes with it. Expecting it to change later because of a vow is about as dumb as you can get.

But hey…that’s “politically correct” for you.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:

[quote]Derek542 wrote:

[quote]MattyXL wrote:
Agree with x, how anybody can watch this and not see it is contrived and manufactured is crazy. The ambushing this dolt gets is obvious. All in an attempt to make phil look like a hero, he is self righteous asshole and truly hope he gets a 2x4 to the face. [/quote]

Matty tell us how you really feel.

I still have not seen video, I am just talking out my ass.[/quote]

actually Im trying to deflect the rumors that I am card carrying member of the Dr. Phil fan club :slight_smile:
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Isn’t that you, 2nd to last row, 4th person from the right?

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FACK!!! MODS please remove I repeat please remove!!!

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[quote]Jackie_Jacked wrote:

She used to workout before the kids. They stated that already. [/quote]

So SHE changed.

Thank you.

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Now here’s a hypothetical: maybe she wants to go to the gym with him and he won’t pay a sitter? I wasn’t faulting anyone as you suggested though. How could I? I don’t live with them.[/quote]

None of us do…but if she was a fitness model before, then hell yeah, she did let herself go.

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In reference to the alone time, the wife did say that she wanted to do things with her husband but that he always comes home at the kid’s bed time. If it meant that much to him, he would make an effort to come home earlier sometimes.[/quote]

What if he can’t? Why not get a sitter for the time when he does come home?

This is like marrying someone trying to train for the Olympics and getting pissed because they don’t spend enough time with you.

I know “bodybuilding comps” aren’t carrying the same prestige, but come the fuck on. That takes a ridiculous amount of time or you just don’t do it.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

She is worried now…and likely makes him aware of it daily. That was never going to work.[/quote]

Indeed.

Have you seen her face? I don’t think he wants to go home to that either.

One of the reasons some of my female clients decided to lift was to look good for their men again. I’ve had a client who hated fitness and couldn’t stand that her boyfriend had become a dedicated gym freak. She’s now with him everywhere, they are both competing, dieting etc, and they both look fantastic. She’s more confident than ever and she also doesn’t care about her man leaving her one day, as she she used to. Lol.

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Sidenote:

I’ve never watched Dr. Phil. I’m aware the guy is a totally unqualified douchebag.

The actor Jeffery Tambor recently said that many people think he’s Dr. Phil

Poor bastard. [/quote]

Id be pissed if I looked like that…

Everyday id wake up and eat barbed wire to punch my ugly.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]Steel Nation wrote:

[quote]howie424 wrote:
His wife is fucking hot.[/quote]

Nice body. Face is busted though.[/quote]

Yeah, she ain’t ageing well. I wouldn’t even want to fuck that.

She’s insecure. It’s not even about her kids. It’s about her. She probably worried he’d leave her for a younger sexy blonde. She wants to save her marriage? Go to the gym with your hubby and push weights. See how you look in 6 months, with proper diet and exercise, a better haircut and some botox on your face.

Shit, that was harsh.

Lol.

Seriously, why the heck does she stay with a man who’s ‘‘obsessed about himself’’? Can’t she look after the kids on her own? Does she work? Is she a housewife? The guy clearly doesn’t give a shit about his responsibilities so why is she still with him? I would have kicked his ass out of the house a long time ago. Does she really think by taking her hubby’s ‘‘favourite toy’’ away, the marriage will be saved? That’ll make him resent her even more. She’s never heard of compromise?

Stop complaining, woman. Before blaming your man, look at yourself and figure out what the fuck is wrong with you. Then FIX IT.

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Best post.

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[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:
Shame on the woman for marrying him, but it’s still his fault. He took an oath. He isn’t living up to his oath. She should have known, but he’s still the problem.
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Marriage is the problem.

The rest of the problem lies with an insecure woman and a self obsessed man who are at completely different stages of their lives and want completely different things.

That woman knows her time is running out. It is just a sad fact of society (which I honestly think is slowly changing with people like Halle Berry still looking hot at damn near 50) that women in general do not become more desirable for marriage over 40…while a man’s worth is based much more on his income and goals over that age giving him the advantage.

She is worried now…and likely makes him aware of it daily. That was never going to work.[/quote]

Ever been married?

Still completely his fault. He made a promise and reneged. He isn’t being a man and owning the responsibilities he voluntarily entered into.

He chose her knowing what she was too.[/quote]

She made promises too.

She get a pass for some reason on not keeping herself up and being average?

Kids isn’t a good enough excuse…

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Anyways, if anyone is curious as to how he looks bodybuilding wise, his name is Mike Victoria.

I can’t post links.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

He chose her knowing what she was too.[/quote]

What was she? The show didn’t go into what she was like and he she measured up now.

I agree he made a vow.

I also know a vow doesn’t change who you are.

Maybe people should be more intelligent and accept that a vow does not change who you are…and then maybe there will be less divorce.

You fault him here because the reason is superficial. What about for marriages where the reason is deeper and more emotionally charged?

Bottom line…if you want a long term partner, you need to accept who they are…and all of the bad shit that comes with it. Expecting it to change later because of a vow is about as dumb as you can get.

But hey…that’s “politically correct” for you.[/quote]

Not saying he should or would change. Just that he made a vow to change and is a lying, dishonorable, pussy.

Yes she probably knew that, but her knowing beforehand doesn’t make him not a lying, dishonorable, pussy.

I don’t feel like she deserves better, or supper sorry for her. She got into it knowing I’m sure. But, who he is, unchanged, is still the problem. He’s still a piece of shit.

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I never said that she changed. lol I said, hypothetically, maybe he’s too cheap to pay for a babysitter but that I don’t know because I don’t live with them. It’s pretty presumptuous to assume whose fault any of it is.

A babysitter was mentioned already in my first paragraph.

I don’t compete and you haven’t either so I don’t think either of us has a true grasp on how much time it takes. Do you have any idea how much time it takes to run a house with three small children to look after?

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Dr. Phil should go to the fuckin gym.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

He chose her knowing what she was too.[/quote]

What was she? The show didn’t go into what she was like and he she measured up now.

I agree he made a vow.

I also know a vow doesn’t change who you are.

Maybe people should be more intelligent and accept that a vow does not change who you are…and then maybe there will be less divorce.

You fault him here because the reason is superficial. What about for marriages where the reason is deeper and more emotionally charged?

Bottom line…if you want a long term partner, you need to accept who they are…and all of the bad shit that comes with it. Expecting it to change later because of a vow is about as dumb as you can get.

But hey…that’s “politically correct” for you.[/quote]

It’s not unreasonable to expect someone who gets married and has kids to change into a more responsible person who is less focused on themselves. That’s why this guy is on the show.

If they were married with no kids my attitude would be different. She should expect that he’s probably going to be doing the same stuff he was doing when they were boyfriend and girlfriend. When you have kids though, it’s a different ballgame. You can’t expect a child to be OK with the fact that daddy isn’t home for four hours a night because he wants big muscles and a nice tan. That teaches the kid that dad loves selfish pursuits more than he loves me.

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[quote]super saiyan wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

He chose her knowing what she was too.[/quote]

What was she? The show didn’t go into what she was like and he she measured up now.

I agree he made a vow.

I also know a vow doesn’t change who you are.

Maybe people should be more intelligent and accept that a vow does not change who you are…and then maybe there will be less divorce.

You fault him here because the reason is superficial. What about for marriages where the reason is deeper and more emotionally charged?

Bottom line…if you want a long term partner, you need to accept who they are…and all of the bad shit that comes with it. Expecting it to change later because of a vow is about as dumb as you can get.

But hey…that’s “politically correct” for you.[/quote]

It’s not unreasonable to expect someone who gets married and has kids to change into a more responsible person who is less focused on themselves. That’s why this guy is on the show.

If they were married with no kids my attitude would be different. She should expect that he’s probably going to be doing the same stuff he was doing when they were boyfriend and girlfriend. When you have kids though, it’s a different ballgame. You can’t expect a child to be OK with the fact that daddy isn’t home for four hours a night because he wants big muscles and a nice tan. That teaches the kid that dad loves selfish pursuits more than he loves me.

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Or it teaches the kid about chasing dreams?

Valuable lesson I think.

He should make a point to tell his kids how important it is to go for what they want because life is about becoming who you want to be…