Body Type and Nationality

[quote]dollarbill44 wrote:
grey wrote:
Italy is closer to the equator and everyone knows that gravity is stronger
there…hence shorter people. Even the leaning tower of Pisa is being gravitationally challenged and it happens to be in Italy.
Midgets and pygmies live right on the equator so my reasoning is sound.

It might also have to do with the density of the bones in your head. If you have a bonehead then you will be shorter.

On the other hand nations that have the propensity to have a vacuum in their heads tend to be taller because of the “lift” that they experience from childhood, due to lack of weight in that region of the body.

So closer to equator + bonehead = short
farther from equator + empty head = tall

How’s that Irish?

How’s that explain the brilliance of Bruce Lee???

DB[/quote]

Bruce Lee being a Chinese guy whose family was from Manchuria had a brother who was 7feet tall and weighed 105 pounds. When young Bruce saw how skinny his older brother was decided not to grow any more and be a hefty 130 pounds at 5 feet in height.

This decision eventually led him to Hollywood where he taught Chuck Norris the secret style of Kung Fu and Chuck was so gratefull that he agreed to lose that fight in Rome…you know the one where the cats kept yelling and stuff.
That’s about the time he played Kato on the pink panther with inspector Cleusou.

He also invented Batmans utility belt which he sold to Bruce Wayne for 5000 dollars with which he opened the first Chinese Food restaraunt in Dweeblville Idaho.
Thats how superior Bruce was and his brilliance will shine on forever until all things end and there will be a new chapter written in the Bible being the book of Bruce.

There will come a time when he will be ressurected and kick everybodies ass (especially the guys who laughed at him in the Bruce Lee was small and he’s dead thread).
So there.

[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:

Ha. I’m just trying to figure out how come the damn Irish and Italian came out the most, leading to my 5’6 height.

;)Fuck all of you
[/quote]

Irish and Italian.

Fuck Me.

How did you make it out the womb. You have 2 problems there, The italian bit should surely run backwards, and the irish bit would never have made it out without laying a tarmac driveway in there and charging a fortune!

[quote]Velvet Revolver wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
but why is it generally that Italians are short, …

We are big where it counts :slight_smile:
[/quote]

Arrest records and gold necklace drawers?

[quote]grey wrote:
dollarbill44 wrote:
grey wrote:
Italy is closer to the equator and everyone knows that gravity is stronger
there…hence shorter people. Even the leaning tower of Pisa is being gravitationally challenged and it happens to be in Italy.
Midgets and pygmies live right on the equator so my reasoning is sound.

It might also have to do with the density of the bones in your head. If you have a bonehead then you will be shorter.

On the other hand nations that have the propensity to have a vacuum in their heads tend to be taller because of the “lift” that they experience from childhood, due to lack of weight in that region of the body.

So closer to equator + bonehead = short
farther from equator + empty head = tall

How’s that Irish?

How’s that explain the brilliance of Bruce Lee???

DB

Bruce Lee being a Chinese guy whose family was from Manchuria had a brother who was 7feet tall and weighed 105 pounds. When young Bruce saw how skinny his older brother was decided not to grow any more and be a hefty 130 pounds at 5 feet in height.

This decision eventually led him to Hollywood where he taught Chuck Norris the secret style of Kung Fu and Chuck was so gratefull that he agreed to lose that fight in Rome…you know the one where the cats kept yelling and stuff.
That’s about the time he played Kato on the pink panther with inspector Cleusou.

He also invented Batmans utility belt which he sold to Bruce Wayne for 5000 dollars with which he opened the first Chinese Food restaraunt in Dweeblville Idaho.
Thats how superior Bruce was and his brilliance will shine on forever until all things end and there will be a new chapter written in the Bible being the book of Bruce.

There will come a time when he will be ressurected and kick everybodies ass (especially the guys who laughed at him in the Bruce Lee was small and he’s dead thread).
So there.

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Well played.

Wouldn’t gravity actually be weaker at the equator, as the earth’s spin causes a slight expansion at the middle? Any difference is squared, too.

How does all this explain professor X’s being 4’5", though, he eats a lot and he’s black!

Never have I seen Finland mentioned in a thread as many times as here

[quote]Velvet Revolver wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
but why is it generally that Italians are short, …

We are big where it counts :slight_smile:

[/quote]

Would that be the gluteals?

The differences in body type, etc I think are largely due to food, cultural, and religious preferences in that region. People of different national origins being all raised in the same place, like the US, tends to decrease these differences purely based on national origin. For instance, the Japanese in Japan have a very low occurrence of heart disease. Yet, Japanese in the US are very close to the US national average.

First of all, I’m pretty positive gravity is strongest at the poles & weakest at the equator, but I’m also pretty sure that doesn’t have much to do with ethnicity or heights.

My family’s all scottish & I’ve got proportionately short legs & super long torso. I didn’t know this til a couple of weeks ago, but apparantly that’s a classic scottish trait: all torso.

… also, we have massive nuts.

[quote]Killa Cam wrote:
… also, we have massive nuts.[/quote]

Because, at family reunions, the first order of business is grabbing a tape measure and whipping out testicles?

Note to self: “don’t ever ever ever visit Scotland”.

yes, i always thought the scottish were bollocks.

I just finishing high school biology
there take on it is:

If you evoled in a cold country you have a small Surface area to Volume ratio, short broad and thick, if you evoled in a hot enviroment you have a large SA to V ratio tall and thin.

Small to keep body heat in and a slower metabolism to gain fat quicker to stay warm and alive (stone age times no houses or proper clothing, we spend millions of years living uncivlsed in the wild, houses and heat and cloths are pretty new for us, so who knows what we will evole like now, im sure it will be a lot less tough than what we were) eg. eskimos.

Tall and thin to keep the body cool by allowing blood to spread out over a larger area and a fast metabolism to keep nasty fat from making you hot and sweating to death. (eg tall africans from desert countrys)

Most of us these days are mixed blood and every country in the world is different in SA to V ratios due to differing climates so its pretty hard to tell where most of your genes come from, even a fully black guy could have been from white genes 10 generations back we simply dont know our genetic history and it PISSES ME OFF.

I’m from the Netherlands and we Dutch are usually the tallest people on earth. Now the average Dutchman’s height is 1.85 meter (6’1"), and the average height of a Dutch woman is 1.76 eter (5’10") (in 2005).

In an article in a magazine which I read a few months ago, the writer stated that the general opinion that people become taller through the years is wrong.
Height, the writer said, mainly depens on good nutrition, a good healthcare, a quiet time (no wars, stuggle to survive) etc and the lack of severe diseases (like the plague etc). Genetics also played a role of course. We all know e.g. the pigmees in Africa who are extremely short people.

To get back to the Dutchman: his average height in the last 2500 years was between 1.68 meter (5’6") (in the 17th century: a golden age for Holland, but with many wars, the Plague etc.) and 1.85 meter (6’1") (now in 2005/2006).

What the crux of this is,
what it all comes down to
and nobody wants to admit or face

is the debate of whether one person is different from another by race.

Dark skin helps a little bit on a hot day we all know that.

I wager that we also all instinctively feel the same about personality and sport, whether we like it or not.

What I’m saying is that racism is part of what we are. Having a black girlfriend for a long while I came to relise that it’s not something that should be ignored or denied. I was forced to see something in myself I didn’t like but could do nothing about. The racism in me was like discovering yourself being gay. Not nice or easy and I couldn’t change it. I still haven’t seen it change - only REMARKETED so the positives obscure the negatives.

That is why BruceLee was a kicker and not a lifter. It’s easier to go with the flow.

Society doesn’t want us to be happy. It wants us to work for it, tirelessly looking for recognition in our specialised roles. It wants balding white men to be in the boardroom and anyone foriegn looking in things like music.

It won’t go away, instead the ones at the bottom just fight to get higher, and someone else falls down to the bottom to take thier place. In the UK do the Polish overtake the Chavs, in the US do the Mexians overtake trailer trash?

I don’t think society can be classless.

Now, back to sport. Let’s face the controversy. Does race effect things?

First thing to say is this. There is more variation between individuals than race.

I’ll stick my neck right out and say that say of course I think race effects things. Look at Basketball!

What about the power effect of black music? Ever been to an R&B club and watch the black boys clear up the hunnies?
For me, to compete in that environment and on those terms is not a winning tactic. So I go in slightly HughGrant and that takes balls. Then you got your British accent and they’re sucking your dick come Sunday. That’s spin. And race is marketing.

So race helps in terms of marketing. Maybe you’ll get that coach you’ve always wanted, or the sponsership.

But what about the truth, the truth that really hurts? Perhaps all those dying in Africa haven’t been for waste when Kenyan runner #50 http://kenya.com/runners.html comes running on in?

I think that may be the truth, but it’s not healthy to let that belief limit you.

a book on the subject:

I’m still waiting for someone to blame it all on global warming!

[quote]Yo Momma wrote:
I’m a 5’9" female and a first generation American descended from a long line of Russian farm people. The women in my family were built for two things…birthing and plowing. I guess form follows function here.[/quote]

Sorry about the pun, but don’t you plow them before they birth? or maybe I have got things mixed up.

[quote]jago25_98 wrote:
What the crux of this is,
what it all comes down to
and nobody wants to admit or face

is the debate of whether one person is different from another by race.

Dark skin helps a little bit on a hot day we all know that.

I wager that we also all instinctively feel the same about personality and sport, whether we like it or not.

What I’m saying is that racism is part of what we are. Having a black girlfriend for a long while I came to relise that it’s not something that should be ignored or denied. I was forced to see something in myself I didn’t like but could do nothing about. The racism in me was like discovering yourself being gay. Not nice or easy and I couldn’t change it. I still haven’t seen it change - only REMARKETED so the positives obscure the negatives.

That is why BruceLee was a kicker and not a lifter. It’s easier to go with the flow.

Society doesn’t want us to be happy. It wants us to work for it, tirelessly looking for recognition in our specialised roles. It wants balding white men to be in the boardroom and anyone foriegn looking in things like music.

It won’t go away, instead the ones at the bottom just fight to get higher, and someone else falls down to the bottom to take thier place. In the UK do the Polish overtake the Chavs, in the US do the Mexians overtake trailer trash?

I don’t think society can be classless.

Now, back to sport. Let’s face the controversy. Does race effect things?

First thing to say is this. There is more variation between individuals than race.

I’ll stick my neck right out and say that say of course I think race effects things. Look at Basketball!

What about the power effect of black music? Ever been to an R&B club and watch the black boys clear up the hunnies?
For me, to compete in that environment and on those terms is not a winning tactic. So I go in slightly HughGrant and that takes balls. Then you got your British accent and they’re sucking your dick come Sunday. That’s spin. And race is marketing.

So race helps in terms of marketing. Maybe you’ll get that coach you’ve always wanted, or the sponsership.

But what about the truth, the truth that really hurts? Perhaps all those dying in Africa haven’t been for waste when Kenyan runner #50 http://kenya.com/runners.html comes running on in?

I think that may be the truth, but it’s not healthy to let that belief limit you.[/quote]

I do not want to seem racist either, but I beleive fairly firmly that there is some difference in body type based on race.

Blacks are more athletic. Get over it. That is why there are so many in professional sports, becuase they are good at it. People who are crappy cooks generally don’t do the catering for the Hilton, so, it makes sense that in professional sports, those who are good are the ones that play.

I hope that I am not making any racist comments on this post.

I am also going to say that whites are possibly thicker/stronger, but not as athletic. I am basing this on personal experience. I am a steel worker, and the African-Americans in my plant are very tall, and very athletic, but very skinny. Most of us white fellers are around the 5’8"-6’2" range, and wider across the shoulders. This is possibly why it seems like there are more white/hispanic contstruction workers, and mechanics and the like. (hispanics are white in bone structure, and I hope no one accuses me of steryotyping hispanics as construction workers. I worked for a few weeks as a construction worker, and the 5 white men on the crew were either ex-cons or white trash. The two Hispanic fellas were the nicest people I have worked with, and one of them was 6’0"even, but was fucking strong.)

And, one more slight sterotype, I beleive that asians have a lot more dexterity. That is why they are sort of the birthplace of martial arts. I have also never heard of ninjas being white or black either, ven though ninjas aren’t really real.

Something else I have noticed, It seems like kansans are wider and shorter then other people. It could be that Trailer houses have short ceilings, and it is easier to pick up hay bales when your strong and not tall.

Question- Have there ever been asian competitors at WSM, and have thier ever been African Competitors?

that is for sure - but on the otherhand you have those tall-ass people in the US - how you explain that, do you think their parents feed them with…