Is it enough to do blood tests of Testosterone and Free Testosterone to see if person is ON juice (at the moment) and how much higher should they be from the reference point?
TIA!
Your doctor will likely do a hormone panel, which will include E2 and some other very important numbers (DHT, etc)
I’m not sure I understood your question, though…
“if a person is ON juice and how much higher they should be from the refernce point?”
^^ I’ve no idea what you’re getting at there.
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Your doctor will likely do a hormone panel, which will include E2 and some other very important numbers (DHT, etc)
I’m not sure I understood your question, though…
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Is doing only Testosterone markers enough to see is somebody ON or OFF cycle!
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
“if a person is ON juice and how much higher they should be from the refernce point?”
^^ I’ve no idea what you’re getting at there.[/quote]
Well, if you are on cycle, should your T readings be sky-high?
Because I got no answer on this one (at least not from an adult), I did my own (a little bit expensive) research… So here are mine Test results, after few weeks on cycle and few hours after Test prop shot:
Total Test 162.0 nmol/L (9.9-27.8) Ref. int.
Free Test 5.770 nmol/L (0.091-0.579) Ref. int.
I’ve done my homework!
[quote]RoNeo wrote:
Because I got no answer on this one (at least not from an adult), I did my own (a little bit expensive) research… So here are mine Test results, after few weeks on cycle and few hours after Test prop shot:
Total Test 162.0 nmol/L (9.9-27.8) Ref. int.
Free Test 5.770 nmol/L (0.091-0.579) Ref. int.
I’ve done my homework!
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Wow man, what dose are you running right now?
[quote]RoNeo wrote:
Because I got no answer on this one (at least not from an adult), I did my own (a little bit expensive) research… So here are mine Test results, after few weeks on cycle and few hours after Test prop shot:
Total Test 162.0 nmol/L (9.9-27.8) Ref. int.
Free Test 5.770 nmol/L (0.091-0.579) Ref. int.
I’ve done my homework!
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Are you using Proviron, Masteron or Winstrol at all?
It is amazing the WASTE of AAS due to SHBG.
Brook
[quote]kayveeay wrote:
Wow man, what dose are you running right now?[/quote]
200mg Deca 2x/W
100mg Test EOD
[quote] Brook wrote:
Are you using Proviron, Masteron or Winstrol at all?
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Noup! 
[quote] Brook wrote:
It is amazing the WASTE of AAS due to SHBG.
Brook[/quote]
Why?
my SHBG is at 21.5 nmol/L (14.4-48.4) Ref. int.
Should my free Test be even higher?
I wasnt sniping you directly - your free test is simply adorable lover. 
I was just commenting on just how much SHBG takes up… plus the other processes i guess… but from 162ng-5ng!! thats a right rip-off!
Also - just because the SHBG is in the middle of the range, it doesnt mean it is average… fyi, i mean it COULD be - i do not know enough about nominal blood work levels, but you know what i mean i hope.
If anyone does know what the average SHBG level is - i would be actually interested in a very sad, trainspotter way…
Brook
[quote] Brook wrote:
I wasnt sniping you directly - your free test is simply adorable lover.
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[quote] Brook wrote:
I was just commenting on just how much SHBG takes up… plus the other processes i guess… but from 162ng-5ng!! thats a right rip-off!
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Well it’s usually about 2-3% of Total Test, in my case it’s 3.5%. I’ve could done better with adding one of those SHBG lowering gear, but that is pretty exotic stuff for most of dealers, so…
[quote] Brook wrote:
Also - just because the SHBG is in the middle of the range, it doesnt mean it is average… fyi, i mean it COULD be - i do not know enough about nominal blood work levels, but you know what i mean i hope.
Brook[/quote]
True!
NOOOO… Proviron, Masteron and Winstrol are used for that purpose in that (order…usually)
I usually recommend that virtually everyone adds proviron to test cycles, and to any cycles without any test in too.