I never heard of the bailer being held responsible too
not defending them, but they should have had a trial by now
They are financial liable, but not criminally
did not know that…interesting
The power of reason.
Ideologies are simply a form of religion for the weak. I have values, liberal values like free speech and freedom of religion but would never dehumanize myself by labeling myself a conservative or a liberal.
But these aren’t “liberal” values. Liberal, in the political spectrum, is authoritarian. Does this align with your views, or do you believe more in individual liberties?
If you haven’t, i suggest you take the Political Compass Test. It’s free, no emails required or anything either. It may be a bit flawed, but it helps clarify what your beliefs are - in terms of authoritarian vs libertarian, economic control vs economic freedom.
Sorry, but they are. They predate the existence of the US.
So why do you seem to align more with the liberal party, who are actively pushing against freedoms of speech and religion?
I can’t tell you how your mind works. And if you think the other side cares about those things, you’ve been mislead.
Yes, because attempted murder and by his their admission ‘mentally unstable’ which makes him and threat to himself and others and if this had been a "white supremacist " he’d be in a dungeon hooked up to batteries, with his feet in a bucket of water, with wall to wall media coverage and no bail in sight, that’s why. This is the left taking care of it’s own.
Evidence. His own lawyer admitted he did it. His own lawyer claimed he was “mentally unstable” which is bullshit, but sure.
That’s why this stuff is determined by a case by case basis. This wasn’t a crime of passion, it was premediated.
The judicial branch has no enforcement capability. That’s why there were people guilty of trespassing from Jan 6 who sat in solitary for a year or more.
This is a hierarchy and political prisoners get the brunt of it, if you are to the right of Stalin.
They have done it and are currently doing it.
It’s already happening for the crime of being against the democrat party and having violated a petty crime.
Including people guilty and changed with trespassing.
Don’t waste your time.
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Uh, there are American citizens sitting in jail, right now, denied bail, etc. For the Jan 6 riot. You can have what ever opinion you want on that day. But unless your a soulless worshiper of the establishment, I don’t think you can reasonably agree any of these people should be sitting in jail, mostly for minor offenses, many in solitary confinement, 2 years after the fact with no trial in sight.
This is happening right now… And feel free to fact check it, before dismissing it as me saying the sky is falling…
I agree, we should not have people sitting in jail waiting for a trial. We are holding someone who is still seen as innocent.
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It depends on the crime. If the person is pretty evidently a danger to others, and had just commited murder and has a history of violence, well yeah you got to hold them or the state is technically libel for what happens. But non-violent offenders who are accused of property damage and rioting at the extreme, should not be held without bail or bond.
This is simply the targeting and punishing of political enemies, nothing more.
I think perhaps there is a reasonable amount of time we could hold, but even these people shouldn’t be awaiting trial for years without bail. If the government cares about public safety, they need to prioritize them in the courts so that they can hold them that reasonable time and not have to release them. Maybe a month or so is reasonable.
Meanwhile, Democrats and the ACLU have spoken out against the solitary confinement. This isn’t about politics but the federal government, the law enforcement and justice parts specifically, flexing their muscles. I don’t doubt the same thing would have happened under Trump.
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It’s at-least-almost-always(not sure about this specific instance) the defendant who gets trials moved back, back, back.
How much manpower do you think goes into prosecution of criminal cases? How much into defense? How many cases are there vs how many judges? How often does the defense delay proceedings vs prosecution?
1month from arrest to verdict is simply infeasible. Lack of resources is the reason for lax prosecution that fox news folks are in a huff about. That will only get worse if we put a time limit on court cases.
Do I have a good solution? No. Should we try and find ways to improve the system? Yes.
Not with that attitude.
Sure, then they should give them a court date and release them. Holding people for years without a trial is worse IMO.
I think in the case it is for sure this person who did it, witnesses, video, etc, that we can hold them. At the same time, maybe those cases aren’t very hard to prosecute, and a month is reasonable.
How. Dare. You.
From the folks I know working those courtrooms, that is waaay too quick. And obvious guilt does not mean a quick, simple trial. All these lax DAs that people love to complain about are lax, in large part, because they can’t handle the current caseload so have to pick and choose who to prosecute with the manpower they have.
The law is written so court is thorough and not rushed. Fundamental changes would be needed to make it efficient… Not the least of which is to increase manpower devoted to the courtroom and criminal cases.
I prefer this option over the one of holding people for long periods without a trial. Our constitution guarantees a speedy trial (the 6th amendment). I don’t know anyone who would think years waiting (while in jail) is speedy (speedy is kinda slippery subjective wording). The government is currently in violation of the constitution. Better to fix their noncompliance than to say it requires to much man power.
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