Hey fellas got a few questions if you could all give me your opinions that’d be great.
How long do you cruise for, before blasting again.
When you cruise do you cruise at your trt dose or do you give yourself a lil bit more?
I know there is significant research on steroids and cardiac hypertrophy, is this something being on trt for many years can cause?
I know I post alot of threads just trying to soak up all the knowledgey goodness
Depends on the goal and person. For me my cruises are during what I consider my off season. To clarify my on season is 12 weeks before a meet. So if I do a meet every 6 months then my cruise is about 12 weeks then blast 12 weeks. If I compete 3 times a year my cruises are only 4 weeks long. Last year I compete every 3 months lol so I pretty much blast all year.
Dose for cruise is 200mg Test E and 200mg of Tren E. My blast vary on compounds but on average.
12 weeks out of meet
1000mg of Test
750mg of Tren
500mg of Eq or Deca
6 weeks out
Same as above
Add in
50-100mg of 2 different orals weight class goal dictates which ones.
I’ll let smarter people answer the last question
[quote]Reed wrote:
Depends on the goal and person.[/quote]
This exactly. My cruises are planned around periods where I have an extended vacation, which is usually 4 times a week. Right now I’m on a 28 week blast, followed by a 4 week cruise, then a 12 week blast, then I’ll come completely off for 2 months to let my body recover. Then back on. Usually it’s somewhere between 12-24 blast, 4 cruise, repeat.
fuck it just do BLAST BLAST, where each blast is higher than the last. cruising is a thing of the past
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
fuck it just do BLAST BLAST, where each blast is higher than the last. cruising is a thing of the past[/quote]
Should really depend on your blood work.
Some guys stay on an oral all year long and their liver values stay within range. other guys can’t run anything for past 10 days.
Shadow Pro IIRC correctly recommends going off completely for a couple months of the year, every year. Do not perma-blast and cruise.
what’s the point in completely coming off if you’re on trt
Ok cool also I know you don’t use AI’s reed but do any of you other blokes run ai’s when cruising?
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
Ok cool also I know you don’t use AI’s reed but do any of you other blokes run ai’s when cruising?[/quote]
I do not, my estro stays in the 20’s for the most part. Definitely depends person to person though.
My Endo said I’m pritty estrogen dominant I don’t really understand what this means but on cycle I kept my adex to 0.25mg eod and the only sides I got was my acne got worse
Edit: I guess ill have to figure this out when I start trt and get my first lot of bloods done
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
Hey fellas got a few questions if you could all give me your opinions that’d be great.
How long do you cruise for, before blasting again.
When you cruise do you cruise at your trt dose or do you give yourself a lil bit more?
I know there is significant research on steroids and cardiac hypertrophy, is this something being on trt for many years can cause?
I know I post alot of threads just trying to soak up all the knowledgey goodness[/quote]
Depends on your goals and how you manage unwanted sides from your cycles. Some people struggle with certain issues that may delay going back on another blast. I had bad E2 levels and took a bit of time to lower that before I even considered blasting again
Typically blasts and cruises are the same length from what I’ve heard but I think you can decide if you’re ready sooner or need more time
I personally believe in cruising at a normal TRT dose. I could be wrong but I wonder if you added 100mg/week to your cruise dose (which prob won’t do squat) that you might need to add 100mg/week more to your blast dose just to make sure you get the results you’re looking for on cycle
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This is just theory and based on nothing so know it is just my opinion
I will be starting my 2nd blast Monday.
Weeks 1-14 Arimidex @ .5mg ED ( adj w bloodwork)
Weeks 1-6 500mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-6 2500mg Deca
Weeks 6-10 80mgs Anavar
Weeks 7-10 600mg Test Cyp
Weeks 7-8 300mg Deca
Weeks 14 and beyond - TRT dose
This will be a BIG blast for me! My last blast was 300mg/ week of just Test Cyp. I gained a bit better than 10lbs and only lost 3lbs the 3+ mos I’ve been cruising ( I diet a bit to lean out a bit so I feel like I still gained; I needed to get my E2 under control and shedding visceral fat seemed to make a HUGE difference)
I’m hoping to pack on 10lbs of solid muscle after this next cycle while getting even leaner
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
My Endo said I’m pritty estrogen dominant I don’t really understand what this means but on cycle I kept my adex to 0.25mg eod and the only sides I got was my acne got worse
Edit: I guess ill have to figure this out when I start trt and get my first lot of bloods done[/quote]
so he told you that you were estrogen dominant without seeing any bloodwork? sounds like a lot of endos to me, dumb as fuck, just get the script from him and know what bloodwork you need to get during each checkup and demand it, basically take your treatment into your own hands, all he is good for is the script for test and bloodwork. Maybe i’m wrong but it sounds like he is somewhat clueless
[quote]ToolManSam wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
Hey fellas got a few questions if you could all give me your opinions that’d be great.
How long do you cruise for, before blasting again.
When you cruise do you cruise at your trt dose or do you give yourself a lil bit more?
I know there is significant research on steroids and cardiac hypertrophy, is this something being on trt for many years can cause?
I know I post alot of threads just trying to soak up all the knowledgey goodness[/quote]
Depends on your goals and how you manage unwanted sides from your cycles. Some people struggle with certain issues that may delay going back on another blast. I had bad E2 levels and took a bit of time to lower that before I even considered blasting again
Typically blasts and cruises are the same length from what I’ve heard but I think you can decide if you’re ready sooner or need more time
I personally believe in cruising at a normal TRT dose. I could be wrong but I wonder if you added 100mg/week to your cruise dose (which prob won’t do squat) that you might need to add 100mg/week more to your blast dose just to make sure you get the results you’re looking for on cycle
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just theory and based on nothing so know it is just my opinion
I will be starting my 2nd blast Monday.
Weeks 1-14 Arimidex @ .5mg ED ( adj w bloodwork)
Weeks 1-6 500mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-6 2500mg Deca
Weeks 6-10 80mgs Anavar
Weeks 7-10 600mg Test Cyp
Weeks 7-8 300mg Deca
Weeks 14 and beyond - TRT dose
This will be a BIG blast for me! My last blast was 300mg/ week of just Test Cyp. I gained a bit better than 10lbs and only lost 3lbs the 3+ mos I’ve been cruising ( I diet a bit to lean out a bit so I feel like I still gained; I needed to get my E2 under control and shedding visceral fat seemed to make a HUGE difference)
I’m hoping to pack on 10lbs of solid muscle after this next cycle while getting even leaner
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that 2500 mg of deca was a typo right? lol
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
My Endo said I’m pritty estrogen dominant I don’t really understand what this means but on cycle I kept my adex to 0.25mg eod and the only sides I got was my acne got worse
Edit: I guess ill have to figure this out when I start trt and get my first lot of bloods done[/quote]
so he told you that you were estrogen dominant without seeing any bloodwork? sounds like a lot of endos to me, dumb as fuck, just get the script from him and know what bloodwork you need to get during each checkup and demand it, basically take your treatment into your own hands, all he is good for is the script for test and bloodwork. Maybe i’m wrong but it sounds like he is somewhat clueless
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Yeah I got that feeling too when I was asking him questions a d he wasn’t really answering them trt is not a very big thing in Australia most endos deal with women’s menopause problems
[quote]eatliftsleep wrote:
[quote]ToolManSam wrote:
[quote]kenny-mccormick wrote:
Hey fellas got a few questions if you could all give me your opinions that’d be great.
How long do you cruise for, before blasting again.
When you cruise do you cruise at your trt dose or do you give yourself a lil bit more?
I know there is significant research on steroids and cardiac hypertrophy, is this something being on trt for many years can cause?
I know I post alot of threads just trying to soak up all the knowledgey goodness[/quote]
Depends on your goals and how you manage unwanted sides from your cycles. Some people struggle with certain issues that may delay going back on another blast. I had bad E2 levels and took a bit of time to lower that before I even considered blasting again
Typically blasts and cruises are the same length from what I’ve heard but I think you can decide if you’re ready sooner or need more time
I personally believe in cruising at a normal TRT dose. I could be wrong but I wonder if you added 100mg/week to your cruise dose (which prob won’t do squat) that you might need to add 100mg/week more to your blast dose just to make sure you get the results you’re looking for on cycle
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
This is just theory and based on nothing so know it is just my opinion
I will be starting my 2nd blast Monday.
Weeks 1-14 Arimidex @ .5mg ED ( adj w bloodwork)
Weeks 1-6 500mg Test Cyp
Weeks 1-6 2500mg Deca
Weeks 6-10 80mgs Anavar
Weeks 7-10 600mg Test Cyp
Weeks 7-8 300mg Deca
Weeks 14 and beyond - TRT dose
This will be a BIG blast for me! My last blast was 300mg/ week of just Test Cyp. I gained a bit better than 10lbs and only lost 3lbs the 3+ mos I’ve been cruising ( I diet a bit to lean out a bit so I feel like I still gained; I needed to get my E2 under control and shedding visceral fat seemed to make a HUGE difference)
I’m hoping to pack on 10lbs of solid muscle after this next cycle while getting even leaner
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that 2500 mg of deca was a typo right? lol
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Holy FUCK!!! I meant 25,000mg lol
Yeah 250…I wonder what 2500 would do to your sex life