Blackwater Civilian Training Courses

[quote]horsepuss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…

Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).

For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.

See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.

I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.

This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. you have an educated opinion

Well americans dont hide in there closet if there house gets broken into, Maybe canadiens do.[/quote]

That’s a stupid ass thing to say… as if the land mass you were born on has anything to do with your willingness to defend your family.

[quote]DanErickson wrote:
horsepuss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…

Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).

For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.

See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.

I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.

This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. you have an educated opinion

Well americans dont hide in there closet if there house gets broken into, Maybe canadiens do.
That’s a stupid ass thing to say… as if the land mass you were born on has anything to do with your willingness to defend your family.
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Maybe not the land mass but certainly the country.jasmicar and lildave have both agreed they would do nothing in the case of an intrusion and just let the thieves take what they want.Now that doesnt imply all canadiens would do that but you would be hard pressed to get an american to say that.

I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

That’s a damn funny profile pic Mtnboy.

So of those that have taken more than one pistol or rifle course, which company has given you your favorite course? Sig, Blackwater, one of the other companys?

[quote]Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.[/quote]

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon[/quote]

i have a good friend that went rock climbing a waterfall with his fiance on their honeymoon. if some couples want to do action/adventure shanangins instead of just lounging by the beach the whole time, who are you to knock on them?

it’s not my cup of tea, but a wife that wants to do a week of offensive driving/active shooter/force on force/ect sounds like a pretty badass t.wife

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon[/quote]

lol are you serious? Here is a wild though. Maybe he and his fiance have found something they both like doing and want to share it. GASP!!!

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon[/quote]

I wish you would just shut the fuck up.

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon[/quote]

What the fuck kind of judgmental, pretentious prick are you that you think you know better than the married couple what kinds of activities they would enjoy together? Fuck you. That’s the kind of attitude that has infected gov’t these days and has no place at all in it. Mtnboy and his wife know best for their life. No one else has the authority to tell them what they should and shouldn’t enjoy doing if it’s not harming other people.

Go fuck yourself.

[quote]HolyMacaroni wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon

i have a good friend that went rock climbing a waterfall with his fiance on their honeymoon. if some couples want to do action/adventure shanangins instead of just lounging by the beach the whole time, who are you to knock on them?

it’s not my cup of tea, but a wife that wants to do a week of offensive driving/active shooter/force on force/ect sounds like a pretty badass t.wife

[/quote]

He’s a French Canadian candyass, what the hell does he know?

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
horsepuss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
lildave wrote:
boatguy wrote:
Back to the original question…

Before I deployed a few years ago, i bought my wife a pistol for personal defense while I was gone. Having little experience with pistols, she wanted to attend a course. Since Blackwater’s facility is about 30 min from our house, I sent her down through the 3-Day Pistol course. In three days, she shot over 1500 rounds, doing everything from dry-fire/fundamentals to punching paper to shooting steel. Her skills greatly improved, and she now feels comfortable with the pistol as her last line of defense(after sending the dogs).

For the amount of money spent, it was worth it. I could have gotten her up to speed myself, but didn’t have the time in my pre-deployment workup schedule or access to those type of facilities to really immerse her in it like they did.

See this is what I dont get. Why does she even need a gun.
For the most part the only people that need guns are people that are doing something they really shouldnt.
If she gets robbed… just let it go… I’d hope you have insurance.
I have nothing against American’s but I think for the most part they seem to think they arent as safe as they actually are. I bet your odds of someone actually attacking you are lower than crossing the street and getting hit by a car… Maybe you shouldnt leave the house.

I’d also like to know how much of this training actually helps in a real world situation. I can shoot at a target all day long. Doesnt mean that I can shoot at a person. Also doesnt mean that under pressure I will actually think totally straight. I can see how it can work for military and law enforcement since everytime you are on duty you have to assume that someone is going to try to kill you. I NEVER want to have to constantly live in fear of being attacked by someone in North America.

This isnt an attack in anyway. Just my opinion.
I agree with you. you have an educated opinion

Well americans dont hide in there closet if there house gets broken into, Maybe canadiens do.

Americans are scared of each others.They lock their door. In America people shoot themselves.In Canada we don’t do this.
In 2003 (not sure about the year), there was 5000 murders in detroit. In Windsor, just across the lake in Canada, there was 1 murder. From a guy that was from Detroit.

Detroit pop: 900 000. Windsor: 250 000. Facts don’t lie. For all the people who thinks guns make the world safer, you are wrong.
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Well we live in America, not Canada. And I can defend myself just fine thank you. I can shoot well and know basic self defense. I can handle a rifle, a shotgun, and a pistol. I own many firearms and enjoy shooting them. I enjoy hunting. And I enjoy telling clowns like you to fuck off.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon

i have a good friend that went rock climbing a waterfall with his fiance on their honeymoon. if some couples want to do action/adventure shanangins instead of just lounging by the beach the whole time, who are you to knock on them?

it’s not my cup of tea, but a wife that wants to do a week of offensive driving/active shooter/force on force/ect sounds like a pretty badass t.wife

He’s a French Canadian candyass, what the hell does he know?[/quote]

shhhhh, I know of one pretty bad ass french canadian on this site.
this guy however is a candy ass so I dunno

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
lildave wrote:
Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.

Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

It shows in everday life…how we drive…work accidents…who we trust…etc. Who are you to question what we have as a right in this country?? You don’t like it or agree with it…that’s fine. But don’t act as if you have all of this figured out. It shows your ignorance and arrogance. Shove it.

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.

The fact that you are wondering further proves that you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Wonder somewhere else with your bullshit. [/quote]

Yep, there are serious sources where he can find this info.

[quote]MaddyD wrote:
tom63 wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon

i have a good friend that went rock climbing a waterfall with his fiance on their honeymoon. if some couples want to do action/adventure shanangins instead of just lounging by the beach the whole time, who are you to knock on them?

it’s not my cup of tea, but a wife that wants to do a week of offensive driving/active shooter/force on force/ect sounds like a pretty badass t.wife

He’s a French Canadian candyass, what the hell does he know?

shhhhh, I know of one pretty bad ass french canadian on this site.
this guy however is a candy ass so I dunno[/quote]

To be specific, I did not say French Canadians were candyasses. I said he was a French Canadian candyass. There is a difference.

[quote]tom63 wrote:
MaddyD wrote:
tom63 wrote:
HolyMacaroni wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
Mtnboy78 wrote:
I wish I got to shoot fifteen hundred rounds in three days with the military. Those blackwater courses seem like they would be a good time. I live twenty minutes from the Sig Academy here in NH. I’d be drinking all night and shooting all day. Sounds like a dream honeymoon to me. I’m getting married next month and the fiance and I are tossing around ideas.

Jasmincar and Lildave need to get their heads out of their asses.

lol are you serious? What kind of redneck are you to go shooting on your honeymoon

i have a good friend that went rock climbing a waterfall with his fiance on their honeymoon. if some couples want to do action/adventure shanangins instead of just lounging by the beach the whole time, who are you to knock on them?

it’s not my cup of tea, but a wife that wants to do a week of offensive driving/active shooter/force on force/ect sounds like a pretty badass t.wife

He’s a French Canadian candyass, what the hell does he know?

shhhhh, I know of one pretty bad ass french canadian on this site.
this guy however is a candy ass so I dunno

To be specific, I did not say French Canadians were candyasses. I said he was a French Canadian candyass. There is a difference.[/quote]

there is a difference just like not all americans are sister banging hillfolk, but the fun americans are

hahahahaha
I didnt know T-Nation was filled bunch of angry gun-loving rednecks. What is so enjoyable about them anyway? They make you feel powerful and respected ? In real life will you point it at me instead of telling me to ‘‘fuck off’’ with all this aggressivness?. You americans feel threatened all the time. What a great nation, everyone is trusting everyone. Then after you all bow to your flag, the symbol of your hostility, inequality and antipathy plagued-land and go on war hiring an private army so some corporation can get cheap oil.

[quote]hedo wrote:
FightinIrish26 wrote:
I hear they have civilian training courses. Seems pretty fucking interesting. Anyone have any experience with this or take a course with them?

http://www.ustraining.com/Moyock/MYK_courses.html

Irish

I had a friend who took the 5 day handgun course last fall. He was good shooter when he went down but a better one when he came back. I compete against him in Action Pistol and IDPA events.

You will be training with people of various skill levels. Some are active duty Military, others are LE the rest are civilians who feel the need to get better at gun handling and gun fighting. You will get better at both after a course like this. Not cheap but it’s top quality.
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That was kind of my question, until these sackless cuntrags came on and started crying about how evil Blackwater and guns are. I thought this was Testosterone Nation, not “Bleeding Fucking Vagina Nation.”

Either way, it’s going to be something I’m going to look into. If anything, just the opportunity to train with some of these cats is a trip in itself. Like sparring with Roy Jones or rolling with Renzo, you know…

[quote]jasmincar wrote:
hahahahaha
I didnt know T-Nation was filled bunch of angry gun-loving rednecks. What is so enjoyable about them anyway? They make you feel powerful and respected ? In real life will you point it at me instead of telling me to ‘‘fuck off’’ with all this aggressivness?. You americans feel threatened all the time. What a great nation, everyone is trusting everyone. Then after you all bow to your flag, the symbol of your hostility, inequality and antipathy plagued-land and go on war hiring an private army so some corporation can get cheap oil.
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In real life I wouldn’t have to tell you to fuck off. You wouldn’t open your mouth with this stupidity. If you did, you would very quickly close it.

Every time you and lildave post something stupid in this thread I’m going to buy another gun, more ammo, another year’s membership in the NRA and a Charlton Heston movie on DVD.

Those of us in Law Enforcement have a word for people with your particular strategy regarding perpetrators. That word is “victims.” We get to explain to your families that you are dead because you acted like a sheep instead of a sheepdog when a wolf came calling. Congrats, and pray that you never have to deal with the kind of people that run from guys like me. You are simply not equipped to do so, and that isn’t because you don’t have a gun, it’s because you don’t have the stones to stand up for yourself. Pathetic.

Demo Dick

I put in a bid for a law enforcement/corrections/security T-Cell. Anyone interested should voice so…if they have not already.

[quote]Demo Dick wrote:

… you acted like a sheep instead of a sheepdog when a wolf came calling. Congrats, and pray that you never have to deal with the kind of people that run from guys like me. You are simply not equipped to do so, and that isn’t because you don’t have a gun, it’s because you don’t have the stones to stand up for yourself. Pathetic.

Demo Dick[/quote]

http://www.gleamingedge.com/mirrors/onsheepwolvesandsheepdogs.html

I often hope that the sheep I keep alive will one day benefit society. But I see crap like what I have seen on this thread and it makes me sad and doubtful.

On topic: I have not attended the Blackwater courses, but have done a few others and they are all pretty good. You will definitely leave better than you went in.