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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

Americans are scared of each others.They lock their door. In America people shoot themselves.In Canada we don’t do this.
In 2003 (not sure about the year), there was 5000 murders in detroit. In Windsor, just across the lake in Canada, there was 1 murder. From a guy that was from Detroit.

Detroit pop: 900 000. Windsor: 250 000. Facts don’t lie. For all the people who thinks guns make the world safer, you are wrong.
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I am not impressed with your performances.

Every American knows Detroit sucks. Tell us something we don’t know.

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[quote]lildave wrote:
You don’t have to buy a handgun because you’re scared you know. But they do make good insurance policies if you’re properly trained.

It could also be the reason you end up dead if you arent sure that when the time comes you will actually use it.

And as far as me being a troll… I have been on here for years and have over 100 posts. Just because I have an opinion and arent afraid to point out the facts doesnt make me a troll.

But obviously some guys on here wont care what is said.

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Umm…by your failed logic,I have over 2500 posts…If I say you’re a troll on this thread…you’re a troll. I don’t know if you’ve noticed,but this is not a thread arguing about guns. This makes you a fucking troll. Why don’t you take this shit to the gun thread…and get raped. Besides,you’re not providing facts. Hypothetical mumbling and posting statistics you can’t explain properly is not making a factual argument for you. You’re voicing an opinion…you just said so yourself. I’ve noticed that you have yet to address not one of my posts directed at you. Interesting.

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This thread needs moar training footage.

(Live fire exercise by the instructors, unscripted)

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Hey lildave, I officialy hate you.

I obviously only lift weights because im in constant fear of getting into a fight and think that being strong will save my life, that is if I dont have my gun on me right.

I have guns and know how to use them, I was taught how to shoot by two airborne rangers and a scout sniper.all of which work for blackwater.

And to answer your question I could easily shoot someone.I could never hurt any innocent good person and it sickens me to think about doing so but I could put worthless criminal scumbags into the ground all day.

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[quote]Doug Adams wrote:
This thread needs moar training footage.

(Live fire exercise by the instructors, unscripted)

nice.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:

Americans are scared of each others.They lock their door. In America people shoot themselves.In Canada we don’t do this.
In 2003 (not sure about the year), there was 5000 murders in detroit. In Windsor, just across the lake in Canada, there was 1 murder. From a guy that was from Detroit.

Detroit pop: 900 000. Windsor: 250 000. Facts don’t lie. For all the people who thinks guns make the world safer, you are wrong.

I am not impressed with your performances.

Every American knows Detroit sucks. Tell us something we don’t know.[/quote]

Roger that fuck detroit.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:

In 2003 (not sure about the year), there was 5000 murders in detroit. In Windsor, just across the lake in Canada, there was 1 murder. From a guy that was from Detroit.

Detroit pop: 900 000. Windsor: 250 000. Facts don’t lie. For all the people who thinks guns make the world safer, you are wrong.
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LOL, did you really just say that there were 5000 murders in a single year in Detroit? Seriously?

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[quote]Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.
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Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

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People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.[/quote]

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.

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[quote]lildave wrote:
Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.

Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

It shows in everday life…how we drive…work accidents…who we trust…etc. Who are you to question what we have as a right in this country?? You don’t like it or agree with it…that’s fine. But don’t act as if you have all of this figured out. It shows your ignorance and arrogance. Shove it.

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.[/quote]

The fact that you are wondering further proves that you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Wonder somewhere else with your bullshit.

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[quote]Hatari Samaki wrote:
jasmincar wrote:

In 2003 (not sure about the year), there was 5000 murders in detroit. In Windsor, just across the lake in Canada, there was 1 murder. From a guy that was from Detroit.

Detroit pop: 900 000. Windsor: 250 000. Facts don’t lie. For all the people who thinks guns make the world safer, you are wrong.

LOL, did you really just say that there were 5000 murders in a single year in Detroit? Seriously? [/quote]

Michael Moore said it so it must be true!

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
lildave wrote:
Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.

Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

It shows in everday life…how we drive…work accidents…who we trust…etc. Who are you to question what we have as a right in this country?? You don’t like it or agree with it…that’s fine. But don’t act as if you have all of this figured out. It shows your ignorance and arrogance. Shove it.

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.

The fact that you are wondering further proves that you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Wonder somewhere else with your bullshit. [/quote]

Heres a hint… the second question I asked… I actually know the answer to.

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[quote]horsepuss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
these guys are the scum of the earth

Hey jasmincar go fuck youreself I have 4 good buddies who all are contractors working for blackwater or contracted under them.

What is this torture you speak of, I have never heard about any torture from a contractor.
Im so sick of people getting pissed about contractors when they dont know any or anything about them, so maybe shut the fuck up and go write some more american hating crap on your profile.[/quote]

Killing for money = Scum.

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I can’t believe I am doing this, but I am actually going to reply the incredibly foolish individual who started throwing out numbers without any context.

  1. "…a large American study indicated that liberalized laws for carrying concealed weapons reduced murder rates in the US by 8.5%. US homicide rates in the year 1900 were an estimated 1 per 100,000 – at a time when anyone of any age could buy a gun. Statistics-gathering may have been less thorough at that time – and few people had the money or interest to buy guns. But American gun supply (including handguns) doubled from the 1973-1992 period, during which homicide rates remained unchanged (WALL STREET JOURNAL, 4-Aug-2000, p.A10).

Politicians in Massachusetts have cited the State’s tough gun control laws as the reason for its low murder rates. However, the adjacent states of Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have some of the least stringent gun control laws in the US, yet the first two have lower murder rates than Massachusetts and the murder rates in Vermont are comparable to those in Massachusetts. Murder rates in Boston increased 50% in 2004 over the previous year, while murder rates in Los Angeles, Miami, Washington and many other major cites saw murder rates decline." Reference: DEATH BY MURDER

  1. For 2002: “…Detroit came in second, with 402 killings, or 42.04 per capita.” Reference: Homicide rate up again - Washington Times

  2. For 2003: 366 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: THE MURDER CITY (Compare Glasgow's murder rate to American cities.)

  3. For 2004: 384 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: www.cus.wayne.edu/content/publications/Detroit%20Crime%20Barometer%20October%202005.pdf

  4. For 2005: 354 homicides reported reported in Detroit. Reference: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_06.html#d

  5. For 2006: 418 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: Crime Rate Comparison: Chicago Vs. Detroit

  6. For 2007 and 2008: “Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008: As of Monday, the Detroit Police Department unofficially recorded 340 homicides, about 14% less then last year’s total of 396.” Reference: Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008 - USATODAY.com

  • See, I don’t have a problem with you stating your opinion…but it really riles me up when people start making up numbers to support their opinion.

If you would like to argue your case some more, please head to another blog location (I believe you’ll find the Huffington Post more to your liking). Also, in the future, please do us all a favor and try and inject a little reality into your arguments…you won’t sound like such a loon if you do. “5000 murders…” Really? You really want to stick by that?

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[quote]lildave wrote:
Big_Boss wrote:
lildave wrote:
Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.

Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

It shows in everday life…how we drive…work accidents…who we trust…etc. Who are you to question what we have as a right in this country?? You don’t like it or agree with it…that’s fine. But don’t act as if you have all of this figured out. It shows your ignorance and arrogance. Shove it.

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.

The fact that you are wondering further proves that you don’t know what the fuck you are talking about. Wonder somewhere else with your bullshit.

Heres a hint… the second question I asked… I actually know the answer to.
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No. You don’t. You have your hypothetical opinion. And I know where you are going with it. An opinion that could easily parallel saying that a person who trains martial arts is more likely to be careless and violent than someone who doesn’t.

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You do realize that your government keeps track of stuff and posts those stats online.
So its not an opinion… its a fact…
More murders stem from arguements and fights then anything else…
I was even surprised since I would have thought gang activity would higher. Then again just cuz someone isnt in a gang doesnt mean they didnt kill someone for the gang. If they cant link it to a gang they cant call it gang activity.

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[quote]FitRugbyDude wrote:
I can’t believe I am doing this, but I am actually going to reply the incredibly foolish individual who started throwing out numbers without any context.

  1. "…a large American study indicated that liberalized laws for carrying concealed weapons reduced murder rates in the US by 8.5%. US homicide rates in the year 1900 were an estimated 1 per 100,000 – at a time when anyone of any age could buy a gun. Statistics-gathering may have been less thorough at that time – and few people had the money or interest to buy guns. But American gun supply (including handguns) doubled from the 1973-1992 period, during which homicide rates remained unchanged (WALL STREET JOURNAL, 4-Aug-2000, p.A10).

Politicians in Massachusetts have cited the State’s tough gun control laws as the reason for its low murder rates. However, the adjacent states of Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have some of the least stringent gun control laws in the US, yet the first two have lower murder rates than Massachusetts and the murder rates in Vermont are comparable to those in Massachusetts. Murder rates in Boston increased 50% in 2004 over the previous year, while murder rates in Los Angeles, Miami, Washington and many other major cites saw murder rates decline." Reference: DEATH BY MURDER

  1. For 2002: “…Detroit came in second, with 402 killings, or 42.04 per capita.” Reference: Homicide rate up again - Washington Times

  2. For 2003: 366 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: THE MURDER CITY (Compare Glasgow's murder rate to American cities.)

  3. For 2004: 384 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: www.cus.wayne.edu/content/publications/Detroit%20Crime%20Barometer%20October%202005.pdf

  4. For 2005: 354 homicides reported reported in Detroit. Reference: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_06.html#d

  5. For 2006: 418 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: Crime Rate Comparison: Chicago Vs. Detroit

  6. For 2007 and 2008: “Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008: As of Monday, the Detroit Police Department unofficially recorded 340 homicides, about 14% less then last year’s total of 396.” Reference: Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008 - USATODAY.com

  • See, I don’t have a problem with you stating your opinion…but it really riles me up when people start making up numbers to support their opinion.

If you would like to argue your case some more, please head to another blog location (I believe you’ll find the Huffington Post more to your liking). Also, in the future, please do us all a favor and try and inject a little reality into your arguments…you won’t sound like such a loon if you do. “5000 murders…” Really? You really want to stick by that?[/quote]

Well 5000 or 500… I dont check facts of everything I say before posting in a forum. ok not 5000 murders. but there is still more murders in detroit only than in the entire country of Canada. (didn’t verify that too, you can do it)

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[quote]lildave wrote:
Its education in awareness…responsibility…then self-defense. You grossly mistake this for being paranoid.

Maybe us Canadians just get common sense naturally.

People take shit for granted and do careless things because they feel they are safe.

Now… who is most likely to do something careless? The person that doesnt have a weapon? Or the person with the weapon who knows if something happens they have protection?

It shows in everday life…how we drive…work accidents…who we trust…etc. Who are you to question what we have as a right in this country?? You don’t like it or agree with it…that’s fine. But don’t act as if you have all of this figured out. It shows your ignorance and arrogance. Shove it.

I wonder how many Americans carry guns just because they have the right to… and not because they feel they need to.

I also wonder how many murders take place each year that stem from a fight or argument? Situations where if someone wasnt legally carrying a weapon they might have just gotten in a fight… Sure you can kill someone without a weapon. But the odds go way up once a weapon comes into play.[/quote]

If you are talking about lawful gun owners, then the percentage of those that are involved in murders is so small its non-existent. If, on the other hand, you’re talking about gang bangers or people who own firearms illegally, then of course its going to be higher. You need some serious intellectual lessons in reasoning. The statistics for law-abiding gun owners are easily available if you cared enough to actually try and post something truthful and accurate. But you obviously don’t care enough to worry about all the misinformation you just parroted out.

In regards to your other question, millions of people, yes MILLIONS, own guns because they want to exercise their rights and not because they’re living in fear.

Now go troll somewhere else. If you want to start a thread on this, as if several don’t already exist, go the PWI forum. This is a thread on gun-training courses, so GTFO and STFU. Political arguments go elsewhere, unless you have personal experience with one of these pistol/rifle/or carbine courses that you’d like to share. Stay on topic.

And yes, if you’re dragging a thread off topic, you’re a troll. It doesn’t matter how many posts you have or how long you’ve been a member.

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to jasmincar, go spend a night or a week in detroit and get back to us.

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[quote]orion wrote:
horsepuss wrote:
jasmincar wrote:
these guys are the scum of the earth

Hey jasmincar go fuck youreself I have 4 good buddies who all are contractors working for blackwater or contracted under them.

What is this torture you speak of, I have never heard about any torture from a contractor.
Im so sick of people getting pissed about contractors when they dont know any or anything about them, so maybe shut the fuck up and go write some more american hating crap on your profile.

Killing for money = Scum.
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So your calling all soldiers scum, they get paid.

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[quote]jasmincar wrote:
FitRugbyDude wrote:
I can’t believe I am doing this, but I am actually going to reply the incredibly foolish individual who started throwing out numbers without any context.

  1. "…a large American study indicated that liberalized laws for carrying concealed weapons reduced murder rates in the US by 8.5%. US homicide rates in the year 1900 were an estimated 1 per 100,000 – at a time when anyone of any age could buy a gun. Statistics-gathering may have been less thorough at that time – and few people had the money or interest to buy guns. But American gun supply (including handguns) doubled from the 1973-1992 period, during which homicide rates remained unchanged (WALL STREET JOURNAL, 4-Aug-2000, p.A10).

Politicians in Massachusetts have cited the State’s tough gun control laws as the reason for its low murder rates. However, the adjacent states of Maine, New Hampshire and Vermont have some of the least stringent gun control laws in the US, yet the first two have lower murder rates than Massachusetts and the murder rates in Vermont are comparable to those in Massachusetts. Murder rates in Boston increased 50% in 2004 over the previous year, while murder rates in Los Angeles, Miami, Washington and many other major cites saw murder rates decline." Reference: DEATH BY MURDER

  1. For 2002: “…Detroit came in second, with 402 killings, or 42.04 per capita.” Reference: Homicide rate up again - Washington Times

  2. For 2003: 366 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: THE MURDER CITY (Compare Glasgow's murder rate to American cities.)

  3. For 2004: 384 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: www.cus.wayne.edu/content/publications/Detroit%20Crime%20Barometer%20October%202005.pdf

  4. For 2005: 354 homicides reported reported in Detroit. Reference: http://www.fbi.gov/ucr/05cius/data/table_06.html#d

  5. For 2006: 418 homicides reported in Detroit. Reference: Crime Rate Comparison: Chicago Vs. Detroit

  6. For 2007 and 2008: “Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008: As of Monday, the Detroit Police Department unofficially recorded 340 homicides, about 14% less then last year’s total of 396.” Reference: Detroit police say homicides dropped in 2008 - USATODAY.com

  • See, I don’t have a problem with you stating your opinion…but it really riles me up when people start making up numbers to support their opinion.

If you would like to argue your case some more, please head to another blog location (I believe you’ll find the Huffington Post more to your liking). Also, in the future, please do us all a favor and try and inject a little reality into your arguments…you won’t sound like such a loon if you do. “5000 murders…” Really? You really want to stick by that?

Well 5000 or 500… I dont check facts of everything I say before posting in a forum. ok not 5000 murders. but there is still more murders in detroit only than in the entire country of Canada. (didn’t verify that too, you can do it)
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ha Ha jasmincar, your an idiot.Oh i dont fact check stuff 5000 500 whats the difference.