[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
On second thought im starting today ;D
so far
2 scoops whey
1 scoop whey
1 cup egg whites
1 cup oatmeal
1 scoop whey
1 cup egg whites 1 cup oatmeal
150g protein
120g carb
im going out tonight so im saving my fat around 100g of carb and at least 50g protein for that :)[/quote]
Sounds like drinkable diet 
Considered using free range organic eggs or are you not using much/any fat in this diet?
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.
[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
On second thought im starting today ;D
so far
2 scoops whey
1 scoop whey
1 cup egg whites
1 cup oatmeal
1 scoop whey
1 cup egg whites 1 cup oatmeal
150g protein
120g carb
im going out tonight so im saving my fat around 100g of carb and at least 50g protein for that :)[/quote]
Sounds like drinkable diet
Considered using free range organic eggs or are you not using much/any fat in this diet?[/quote]
I deffinitely am going to start using them, and ezekiel bread and other things when i get a job which will hopefully be in march after school is over. My mom gets all my food now and whatever i want but ill still wait mostly because Whole Foods is a 40 min drive from my house and i dont want her going that far out of her way lolol
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM[/quote]
How long will that last you lol 2 meals?
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.[/quote]
I have a few opinions on this method but theyre just my opinions
it really depends on how much calories you need to be in a deficit and how many calories you ate in that week before the 7k cal shitload.
Do i think shitloading is bad? Deffinitely not, one day with bad foods a week is totally fine as long as you still have a weekly deficit at the end of the week or as long as you can make up for it if its 2 much
this is what i mean basically:
if your deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 3000 6 days in a week then on the 7th if you shitload 7 thousand calories then its going to cause some damage
however if you deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 2300 for 6 days then the 7th day you will have room to have a high calorie shitload and it will not negatvely affect you at all
this is how i would do the math to see how much you can afford
3000 (your deficit) x 7 (days a week) = 21000 calories - so to be in a weekly deficit you have 21000 calories in a week
now going with that hypothetical number if you want a 7k cal load on one of the days then you would have to eat (21000-7000/6) your calories for the other 6 days would be 2300 for the other 6
days that week.
I am eating the same number of macros every day now so I cant do these anymore, that plus i hate looking sub-par do to water and bloateing 1-2 days after the load, it messses with my mind too much haha, but if you follow that formula then the loading would deffinitely work
In an older article CT said that sometimes a cheat meal can set you back in progress up to 2 weeks, and in doing the math this is completely accurate lol which is a scary thought i would say
I the best method is to follow the same macros every day because then its extremely easy to keep progress going when it stalls. Also what a lot of guys are doing now is depending on your bodyfat level they are doing a high carb refeed with high carbs mod protein and low to 0 fat, your calories on this day are also a bit higher then maintenance. For me my daily cals now are 2570 and my refeed day will be 2800-3000. You use those refeeds as you need them, im going to do it starting with 1 after every 6 days so next friday will be my first one
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM[/quote]
How long will that last you lol 2 meals?[/quote]
Hahahaha
They might last a little longer than that. I halved 15 breasts and it didnāt even make a noticable dent in the bag. Could possibly last til decemberā¦
I had no idea how much chicken breast 20 pounds would be until the guy behind the counter handed me a a giant bagā¦
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.[/quote]
I have a few opinions on this method but theyre just my opinions
it really depends on how much calories you need to be in a deficit and how many calories you ate in that week before the 7k cal shitload.
Do i think shitloading is bad? Deffinitely not, one day with bad foods a week is totally fine as long as you still have a weekly deficit at the end of the week or as long as you can make up for it if its 2 much
this is what i mean basically:
if your deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 3000 6 days in a week then on the 7th if you shitload 7 thousand calories then its going to cause some damage
however if you deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 2300 for 6 days then the 7th day you will have room to have a high calorie shitload and it will not negatvely affect you at all
this is how i would do the math to see how much you can afford
3000 (your deficit) x 7 (days a week) = 21000 calories - so to be in a weekly deficit you have 21000 calories in a week
now going with that hypothetical number if you want a 7k cal load on one of the days then you would have to eat (21000-7000/6) your calories for the other 6 days would be 2300 for the other 6
days that week.
I am eating the same number of macros every day now so I cant do these anymore, that plus i hate looking sub-par do to water and bloateing 1-2 days after the load, it messses with my mind too much haha, but if you follow that formula then the loading would deffinitely work
In an older article CT said that sometimes a cheat meal can set you back in progress up to 2 weeks, and in doing the math this is completely accurate lol which is a scary thought i would say
I the best method is to follow the same macros every day because then its extremely easy to keep progress going when it stalls. Also what a lot of guys are doing now is depending on your bodyfat level they are doing a high carb refeed with high carbs mod protein and low to 0 fat, your calories on this day are also a bit higher then maintenance. For me my daily cals now are 2570 and my refeed day will be 2800-3000. You use those refeeds as you need them, im going to do it starting with 1 after every 6 days so next friday will be my first one[/quote]
Alright, thanks for the information.
Right now Iām basically in a holding pattern waiting for wrestling season where over the week I end up losing 1-2 lbs and over the weekend I put it back on. Came in this weekend at 143.4 and leaving it sunday morning around 144.6. Have to stay at the top of the 145 class. May not be the smartest thing but itās working well considering lifts are still going strong.
And your right, the math can be kind of scary when you think about it but I truly doubt that if your in a 5k surplus for example, that your body will use ALL of that. I would think you would dispose of at least some of it. How much of it though, is impossible to tell.
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.[/quote]
I have a few opinions on this method but theyre just my opinions
it really depends on how much calories you need to be in a deficit and how many calories you ate in that week before the 7k cal shitload.
Do i think shitloading is bad? Deffinitely not, one day with bad foods a week is totally fine as long as you still have a weekly deficit at the end of the week or as long as you can make up for it if its 2 much
this is what i mean basically:
if your deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 3000 6 days in a week then on the 7th if you shitload 7 thousand calories then its going to cause some damage
however if you deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 2300 for 6 days then the 7th day you will have room to have a high calorie shitload and it will not negatvely affect you at all
this is how i would do the math to see how much you can afford
3000 (your deficit) x 7 (days a week) = 21000 calories - so to be in a weekly deficit you have 21000 calories in a week
now going with that hypothetical number if you want a 7k cal load on one of the days then you would have to eat (21000-7000/6) your calories for the other 6 days would be 2300 for the other 6
days that week.
I am eating the same number of macros every day now so I cant do these anymore, that plus i hate looking sub-par do to water and bloateing 1-2 days after the load, it messses with my mind too much haha, but if you follow that formula then the loading would deffinitely work
In an older article CT said that sometimes a cheat meal can set you back in progress up to 2 weeks, and in doing the math this is completely accurate lol which is a scary thought i would say
I the best method is to follow the same macros every day because then its extremely easy to keep progress going when it stalls. Also what a lot of guys are doing now is depending on your bodyfat level they are doing a high carb refeed with high carbs mod protein and low to 0 fat, your calories on this day are also a bit higher then maintenance. For me my daily cals now are 2570 and my refeed day will be 2800-3000. You use those refeeds as you need them, im going to do it starting with 1 after every 6 days so next friday will be my first one[/quote]
Alright, thanks for the information.
Right now Iām basically in a holding pattern waiting for wrestling season where over the week I end up losing 1-2 lbs and over the weekend I put it back on. Came in this weekend at 143.4 and leaving it sunday morning around 144.6. Have to stay at the top of the 145 class. May not be the smartest thing but itās working well considering lifts are still going strong.
And your right, the math can be kind of scary when you think about it but I truly doubt that if your in a 5k surplus for example, that your body will use ALL of that. I would think you would dispose of at least some of it. How much of it though, is impossible to tell.
[/quote]
Yeah its impossible to tell for sure especially when everybodies body is extremely different as well. If your goal is to be in the top of the 145 class then it looks like your doing a good job. I dont know much about wrestling but couldnt u go up to say 155 then do a water cut for 5 hours or so before the weigh in then sauna off the weight to be 145? then then after the weigh in just load on cals until you fight? I dont know if wrestlers do that but a few of my PL friends do that
Breakfast today was
1 cup egg whites
1 scoop of whey
1 cup of oatmeal,
a little bit of almond milk - unsweetened - 40 cals a cup and i had about 1/2 a cup
this was blended obvi
also had 4 eggs cooked in half tsp of vco
macros
80g protein, 60g carb, 35g fat
im going to have another egg white whey oats shake in a bit aswell theyre pretty good actually i think the egg white almond milk combo is superior in taste of the shake then regular milk, and the macros are way better haha
My mind set with my nutrition has changed from - eat whatever and i will be able to get away with it to -
eat the absolute most optimal nutrients/macros i can while remaining sane lolol
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.[/quote]
I have a few opinions on this method but theyre just my opinions
it really depends on how much calories you need to be in a deficit and how many calories you ate in that week before the 7k cal shitload.
Do i think shitloading is bad? Deffinitely not, one day with bad foods a week is totally fine as long as you still have a weekly deficit at the end of the week or as long as you can make up for it if its 2 much
this is what i mean basically:
if your deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 3000 6 days in a week then on the 7th if you shitload 7 thousand calories then its going to cause some damage
however if you deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 2300 for 6 days then the 7th day you will have room to have a high calorie shitload and it will not negatvely affect you at all
this is how i would do the math to see how much you can afford
3000 (your deficit) x 7 (days a week) = 21000 calories - so to be in a weekly deficit you have 21000 calories in a week
now going with that hypothetical number if you want a 7k cal load on one of the days then you would have to eat (21000-7000/6) your calories for the other 6 days would be 2300 for the other 6
days that week.
I am eating the same number of macros every day now so I cant do these anymore, that plus i hate looking sub-par do to water and bloateing 1-2 days after the load, it messses with my mind too much haha, but if you follow that formula then the loading would deffinitely work
In an older article CT said that sometimes a cheat meal can set you back in progress up to 2 weeks, and in doing the math this is completely accurate lol which is a scary thought i would say
I the best method is to follow the same macros every day because then its extremely easy to keep progress going when it stalls. Also what a lot of guys are doing now is depending on your bodyfat level they are doing a high carb refeed with high carbs mod protein and low to 0 fat, your calories on this day are also a bit higher then maintenance. For me my daily cals now are 2570 and my refeed day will be 2800-3000. You use those refeeds as you need them, im going to do it starting with 1 after every 6 days so next friday will be my first one[/quote]
Alright, thanks for the information.
Right now Iām basically in a holding pattern waiting for wrestling season where over the week I end up losing 1-2 lbs and over the weekend I put it back on. Came in this weekend at 143.4 and leaving it sunday morning around 144.6. Have to stay at the top of the 145 class. May not be the smartest thing but itās working well considering lifts are still going strong.
And your right, the math can be kind of scary when you think about it but I truly doubt that if your in a 5k surplus for example, that your body will use ALL of that. I would think you would dispose of at least some of it. How much of it though, is impossible to tell.
[/quote]
Yeah its impossible to tell for sure especially when everybodies body is extremely different as well. If your goal is to be in the top of the 145 class then it looks like your doing a good job. I dont know much about wrestling but couldnt u go up to say 155 then do a water cut for 5 hours or so before the weigh in then sauna off the weight to be 145? then then after the weigh in just load on cals until you fight? I dont know if wrestlers do that but a few of my PL friends do that[/quote]
Similar, but not quite. Iāve cut water before matches, the wrestling version of a game lol, and it often leaves me feeling drained so I prefer dieting down before the season even starts now. Just works better in the end. And in highschool wrestling the weigh-ins and matches are about 30 minutes apart so you can cal load to an extent if you cut water but not to the extent that guys in PL do.
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]PlainPat wrote:
Hey I know this is kind of late, but I just got caught up on the log can you shoot me a PM on shitloading just for shits and giggles? I kind of work my diet like how you were saying back on page 5 involving being in a caloric deficit most of the week and then days like today I eat near 7k calories. Just wanted to see how shitloading works in comparison to this. Thanks in advance, and Iām liking the new routine so far.[/quote]
I have a few opinions on this method but theyre just my opinions
it really depends on how much calories you need to be in a deficit and how many calories you ate in that week before the 7k cal shitload.
Do i think shitloading is bad? Deffinitely not, one day with bad foods a week is totally fine as long as you still have a weekly deficit at the end of the week or as long as you can make up for it if its 2 much
this is what i mean basically:
if your deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 3000 6 days in a week then on the 7th if you shitload 7 thousand calories then its going to cause some damage
however if you deficit is 3000 calories and you eat 2300 for 6 days then the 7th day you will have room to have a high calorie shitload and it will not negatvely affect you at all
this is how i would do the math to see how much you can afford
3000 (your deficit) x 7 (days a week) = 21000 calories - so to be in a weekly deficit you have 21000 calories in a week
now going with that hypothetical number if you want a 7k cal load on one of the days then you would have to eat (21000-7000/6) your calories for the other 6 days would be 2300 for the other 6
days that week.
I am eating the same number of macros every day now so I cant do these anymore, that plus i hate looking sub-par do to water and bloateing 1-2 days after the load, it messses with my mind too much haha, but if you follow that formula then the loading would deffinitely work
In an older article CT said that sometimes a cheat meal can set you back in progress up to 2 weeks, and in doing the math this is completely accurate lol which is a scary thought i would say
I the best method is to follow the same macros every day because then its extremely easy to keep progress going when it stalls. Also what a lot of guys are doing now is depending on your bodyfat level they are doing a high carb refeed with high carbs mod protein and low to 0 fat, your calories on this day are also a bit higher then maintenance. For me my daily cals now are 2570 and my refeed day will be 2800-3000. You use those refeeds as you need them, im going to do it starting with 1 after every 6 days so next friday will be my first one[/quote]
Alright, thanks for the information.
Right now Iām basically in a holding pattern waiting for wrestling season where over the week I end up losing 1-2 lbs and over the weekend I put it back on. Came in this weekend at 143.4 and leaving it sunday morning around 144.6. Have to stay at the top of the 145 class. May not be the smartest thing but itās working well considering lifts are still going strong.
And your right, the math can be kind of scary when you think about it but I truly doubt that if your in a 5k surplus for example, that your body will use ALL of that. I would think you would dispose of at least some of it. How much of it though, is impossible to tell.
[/quote]
Yeah its impossible to tell for sure especially when everybodies body is extremely different as well. If your goal is to be in the top of the 145 class then it looks like your doing a good job. I dont know much about wrestling but couldnt u go up to say 155 then do a water cut for 5 hours or so before the weigh in then sauna off the weight to be 145? then then after the weigh in just load on cals until you fight? I dont know if wrestlers do that but a few of my PL friends do that[/quote]
Similar, but not quite. Iāve cut water before matches, the wrestling version of a game lol, and it often leaves me feeling drained so I prefer dieting down before the season even starts now. Just works better in the end. And in highschool wrestling the weigh-ins and matches are about 30 minutes apart so you can cal load to an extent if you cut water but not to the extent that guys in PL do.
[/quote]
Yeah if i was in your situation i would probably do the same thing was just wondering haha
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM[/quote]
How long will that last you lol 2 meals?[/quote]
Hahahaha
They might last a little longer than that. I halved 15 breasts and it didnāt even make a noticable dent in the bag. Could possibly last til decemberā¦
I had no idea how much chicken breast 20 pounds would be until the guy behind the counter handed me a a giant bagā¦[/quote]
1.50 a lb is so cheap though my god lol1. When i get married and by my own meat I am deffinitely going to a butcher
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
My mind set with my nutrition has changed from - eat whatever and i will be able to get away with it to -
eat the absolute most optimal nutrients/macros i can while remaining sane lolol[/quote]
+1 on this mindset. John Meadows/MDD has shown me there are plenty of ways to get a bunch of calories in your diet through healthy fats etc without resorting to much/any cheating. it may be a different scenario should I ever need well over 6k calories to carry on growing but for now, as long as im pretty organised, i can hit my calorie totals i need for growth without anything really that wouldnāt be MDD approved (besides dextrose peri-workout).
[quote]jake_j_m wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
My mind set with my nutrition has changed from - eat whatever and i will be able to get away with it to -
eat the absolute most optimal nutrients/macros i can while remaining sane lolol[/quote]
+1 on this mindset. John Meadows/MDD has shown me there are plenty of ways to get a bunch of calories in your diet through healthy fats etc without resorting to much/any cheating. it may be a different scenario should I ever need well over 6k calories to carry on growing but for now, as long as im pretty organised, i can hit my calorie totals i need for growth without anything really that wouldnāt be MDD approved (besides dextrose peri-workout).[/quote]
The MDD is pretty cool just i personally like lower fats then what he prescribes but i aggree with everything else except the raw milk he uses.
I remember a video on youtube with Kevin Levrone and he talks about the only foods you need ill try and find it
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM[/quote]
How long will that last you lol 2 meals?[/quote]
Hahahaha
They might last a little longer than that. I halved 15 breasts and it didnāt even make a noticable dent in the bag. Could possibly last til decemberā¦
I had no idea how much chicken breast 20 pounds would be until the guy behind the counter handed me a a giant bagā¦[/quote]
1.50 a lb is so cheap though my god lol1. When i get married and by my own meat I am deffinitely going to a butcher [/quote]
Crazy idea
Letās get maried and share my chicken
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
[quote]Blackaggar wrote:
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Just caught chicken breasts on sale for 1.50 a pound.
Picked up 20 poundsā¦BOOM[/quote]
How long will that last you lol 2 meals?[/quote]
Hahahaha
They might last a little longer than that. I halved 15 breasts and it didnāt even make a noticable dent in the bag. Could possibly last til decemberā¦
I had no idea how much chicken breast 20 pounds would be until the guy behind the counter handed me a a giant bagā¦[/quote]
1.50 a lb is so cheap though my god lol1. When i get married and by my own meat I am deffinitely going to a butcher [/quote]
Crazy idea
Letās get maried and share my chicken[/quote]
Or ill get married to my girlfriend and you can marry us lol Poligamy for the win!
jk
Ugh dude
Girls are gross bro
[quote]Ct. Rockula wrote:
Ugh dude
Girls are gross bro[/quote]
Hell naw man Im vagitarean
I bought greek yogurt today for the first time, damn that macro profile is decent and it tastes awesome, think i found my new breakfast hollaaa
What i did yesterday
Bench press 5/3/1
135x5
165x5
195x3
235x3
275x3
295x10 lol killllled this, only had to get 3
Incline DB bench
90x10
95x10
100x10
Pushups
did 100 total my chest was completely pumped im keeping the pushups
remember ready babyslayers log and he said he feels a good workout should include a heavy lift, volume, and then a huge pump, i tried all of those things and it worked, might add in one more exercise if its a really good one and only then