Black Teen Shot by Neighborhood Watch

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[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
I just listened to some of Zimmerman’s 911 calls (he’s made 46 call since January 2011). In these calls, he CLEARLY has an issue with black teens. Each call had to do with only black teens.

This motherfucker is still free, and still in possession of a gun. [/quote]
It’s my understanding the break-ins in the area were done by young blacks.

As a neighborhood watch whose calls to the police concerned neighborhood safety, don’t you think maybe blacks would be the topic of his concern?

Listen to radio calls between police and dispatch. You’ll often hear things like “suspect is east bound on foot, (insert race), blue shirt, 6 ft, approximately 35…”

It’s relevant to the issue at hand.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

But raising your kid to be aware they are thought of that way so they can be successful and not allow it to hold them back is “wrong and racist”. [/quote]

Damn, had my parents not told me about this, had my parents not told me to be aware and to ignore the fact that as a black person, I can be seen as inferior, stupid and criminal by some white people, hell, I would have surely seen myself as such. I would have certainly believe those people are right, that I’m a useless, brainless entity, a future axe murderer, and without a strong desire to succeed, I would have certainly do nothing good with my life.

Were my parents trying to instigate hate against all whites in me? Certainly not. It was all about awareness and proving the bigoted crowd wrong.

Telling our children about our past, slavery, civil rights, racism, Lynching and modern day prejudices and stereotypes is now a no-no because it’d be perceived as reverse racism? Fuck my life. We can’t win.

Fine, let’s just move on then. Racism is fucking dead.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
What a corner to be boxed into that you KNOW you will be profiled in some places based on race but preparing your kids for it is “wrong”. It is better parenting to allow them to be clueless so they casually walk into these circumstances blindfolded.[/quote]

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.

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For the record, my comment regarding the progression of Africa was a devils advocate exercise in jumping conclusions.

I will say the ensuing conversation was interesting to read, both sides.

That is all.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.[/quote]

Well, warning your kid that they are more likely to be profiled as a criminal because of race is now “racist”. It sort of leaves blacks in America with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

It makes me wonder what parents teach their kids when they ask why this happened. Do they just ignore the profiling part and try to make it seem like wearing a hood made this man a threat?

Do they equate grabbing at the waist with guns and violence to justify the action?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.[/quote]

Well, warning your kid that they are more likely to be profiled as a criminal because of race is now “racist”. It sort of leaves blacks in America with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

It makes me wonder what parents teach their kids when they ask why this happened. Do they just ignore the profiling part and try to make it seem like wearing a hood made this man a threat?

Do they equate grabbing at the waist with guns and violence to justify the action?[/quote]
Should white parents teach their kids that minorities commit the majority of violent crimes even though they make up a small portion of society and should therefore be viewed with suspicion if unknown?

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.[/quote]

Well, warning your kid that they are more likely to be profiled as a criminal because of race is now “racist”. It sort of leaves blacks in America with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

It makes me wonder what parents teach their kids when they ask why this happened. Do they just ignore the profiling part and try to make it seem like wearing a hood made this man a threat?

Do they equate grabbing at the waist with guns and violence to justify the action?[/quote]
Should white parents teach their kids that minorities commit the majority of violent crimes even though they make up a small portion of society and should therefore be viewed with suspicion if unknown?[/quote]

They should be taught about socioeconomic differences, not that one race is more likely to kill you because they are black.

This kid died by the hands of AUTHORITY FIGURES, not random drive bys. Big difference, homie.

A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS. I would raise a black kid to be on their guard in certain neighborhoods as well but RACE would not be why.

There is a pretty HUGE difference in making your child aware that more eyes will be on them as a potential social negative based on their race as a minority (which WILL hold them back if not aware of why with understanding of how to work around it)…and telling your kid that black people are more likely to kill you because they are black.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.[/quote]

Well, warning your kid that they are more likely to be profiled as a criminal because of race is now “racist”. It sort of leaves blacks in America with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

It makes me wonder what parents teach their kids when they ask why this happened. Do they just ignore the profiling part and try to make it seem like wearing a hood made this man a threat?

Do they equate grabbing at the waist with guns and violence to justify the action?[/quote]
Should white parents teach their kids that minorities commit the majority of violent crimes even though they make up a small portion of society and should therefore be viewed with suspicion if unknown?[/quote]

They should be taught about socioeconomic differences, not that one race is more likely to kill you because they are black.

This kid died by the hands of AUTHORITY FIGURES, not random drive bys. Big difference, homie.

A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS. I would raise a black kid to be on their guard in certain neighborhoods as well but RACE would not be why.

There is a pretty HUGE difference in making your child aware that more eyes will be on them as a potential social negative based on their race as a minority (which WILL hold them back if not aware of why with understanding of how to work around it)…and telling your kid that black people are more likely to kill you because they are black.
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I see your point.

The damned if you do, damned if you don’t comment in this context is an angle I’ve never really considered as I don’t have a real basis for perception here. Interesting insight and understandable though I do believe parenting racial suspicion in to children perpetuates institutional racism, from either side. A necessary evil perhaps but when people automatically pull the racist card it is honestly a little sad to see, makes you wonder what the world looks like when everyone with white skin is a potential KKK member, not unlike stereotyping blacks as potentially more dangerous at all.

Surely being overly suspicious is more damaging than helpful.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

[/quote]

It’s a fine line between being realistic and crying wolf or just worrying about it too much.

A lot of Apache on the reservation (including my mother, who is very racist against non-Indians) buy into the woe-is-me, the white-man-is-the-Devil, bullshit. In fact, I have cousins I grew up with who bitch and moan about the “white man” and blame “the man” for keeping them down. No, they are “down” because they are lazy, can’t keep a job, and have no ambition. I won’t fucking hire them, and they are the same race as me.

And yes, I’ve had some unpleasant discrimination episodes in my life (and some just annoying – nickname “Tonto” in Basic), but 99% of people don’t give a shit about race, creed, or color.

I am not going to worry about the 1% of assholes in this world.

My step-father (who adopted me when I was 1, so he’s my dad, and is also Apache), raised me to be color blind in a way.

He taught me to judge a man by the content of his character. As a result, I have life-long friends (like 1st grade to adult man) of many races. (In fact, I had to think about what races people are just now; it’s just not relevant.) I’ve been very successful financially and professionally.

Now, in fairness, I think it is easier to be “color blind” in a rural area, because you actually get to know people and generally grow up with them. I’d back a white guy I knew from 1st grade to adulthood before I’d back some Apache from Oklahoma I didn’t know, for example.

Race comes up seldom, if ever out here. When it does, it’s somebody from the outside with an agenda or a chip on their shoulder.

Maybe you all need to move out of cities and get to know your neighbors.

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[quote]thethirdruffian wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

[/quote]

It’s a fine line between being realistic and crying wolf or just worrying about it too much.

A lot of Apache on the reservation (including my mother, who is very racist against non-Indians) buy into the woe-is-me, the white-man-is-the-Devil, bullshit. In fact, I have cousins I grew up with who bitch and moan about the “white man” and blame “the man” for keeping them down. No, they are “down” because they are lazy, can’t keep a job, and have no ambition. I won’t fucking hire them, and they are the same race as me.

And yes, I’ve had some unpleasant discrimination episodes in my life (and some just annoying – nickname “Tonto” in Basic), but 99% of people don’t give a shit about race, creed, or color.

I am not going to worry about the 1% of assholes in this world.

My step-father (who adopted me when I was 1, so he’s my dad, and is also Apache), raised me to be color blind in a way.

He taught me to judge a man by the content of his character. As a result, I have life-long friends (like 1st grade to adult man) of many races. (In fact, I had to think about what races people are just now; it’s just not relevant.) I’ve been very successful financially and professionally.

Now, in fairness, I think it is easier to be “color blind” in a rural area, because you actually get to know people and generally grow up with them. I’d back a white guy I knew from 1st grade to adulthood before I’d back some Apache from Oklahoma I didn’t know, for example.

Race comes up seldom, if ever out here. When it does, it’s somebody from the outside with an agenda or a chip on their shoulder.

Maybe you all need to move out of cities and get to know your neighbors.

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Sounds healthy.

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I don’t know nor do I care about all the existential rhetoric accompanying this case. A paranoid, trigger-happy racist bastard murdered a young boy who was walking, eating candy, and talking to his girlfriend on the phone. The kid was unarmed and didn’t have a record. The boy even yelled for help and this cocksucker hasn’t been charged with anything? The police dispatcher even told the asshole not to follow the kid, but he was bound and determined to murder a “coon.” This is un-fucking-believable.

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[quote]general_lfl wrote:
I don’t know nor do I care about all the existential rhetoric accompanying this case. A paranoid, trigger-happy racist bastard murdered a young boy who was walking, eating candy, and talking to his girlfriend on the phone. The kid was unarmed and didn’t have a record. The boy even yelled for help and this cocksucker hasn’t been charged with anything? The police dispatcher even told the asshole not to follow the kid, but he was bound and determined to murder a “coon.” This is un-fucking-believable.[/quote]
Cool story bro.

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[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Hmm, just saw this story on TV for the first time today. Apparently the kid was on his phone with his gf as it was happening, and repeatedly asked Zimmerman why he was following him, etc etc…sure seem to throw [even] more suspicion Zimmerman’s way. Glad that they’re protesting this and insisting on a full investigation. How the hell you gonna shoot an unarmed person with no eyewitnesses and not even get taken into custody?

hit the gym, I think it’s a very community-specific thing. My wife is black, and the only “racist” type thing I see even somewhat regularly is black dudes apparently telling her she should get with “a real man” aka them. They should be glad I’ve never seen/heard this happen in person. She’s told me of this happening multiple times though.

Having said that, I’m based in a military town, being in the Marines; so there is a larger than normal “minority” population in the area. On a somewhat related and interesting (to me) note, I VERY rarely see racism popping up in the military, as compared to civilian life…can’t help but wonder if it’s because of the greater interaction with varying races that tends to occur in the military. Thoughts on this from other people with military background?[/quote]

I’d been called names by black men too as I hanged out with white men. I remember one time, a guy came up to me and told me angrily, ‘‘why you gotta betray us, sista?’’ That ‘‘real man’’ talk came up too. And that was in front of that white dude I was fucking at the time. Haha! Crazy.

By the way, congrats on your wedding.[/quote]

Exactly, ain’t that shit ridiculous? I mean damn, I thought bi-racial relationships being stereotyped was supposed to be a thing of the past.

To X, it wasn’t her being complimented that annoyed me. It was the blatant insinuation that somehow a white dude is less of a real man then his bitch-ass is. Go ahead and tell her how hot she is all day long, that won’t bother me a bit, yknow?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS.
[/quote]

This is where you are wrong. Being a minority in this country is a huge advantage. You get preferential treatment everywhere. You are acting like people are still going around hanging blacks from trees when for every Trayvon Martin murdered by a racist there are thousands and thousands of black people who get accepted to college, granted loans or given jobs over equally qualified white people simply because they were born with dark skin.

White people are sick of it, and we are sick of the victim mentality. We are sick of paying for mistakes that our great great great great grandfathers might have made, and we are sick of black people being compensated for crimes they themselves were never a victim of. The vast majority of educated, decent white people don’t have a single racist bone in their body. The percentage of truly racist people is a tiny, tiny fraction of white people as a whole. Quit acting like this is some epidemic when it’s not, it’s a very rare isolated case.

I didn’t even know what racism was until I was 8 or 9 years old. We played in the Texas state youth basketball tournament and an all black team called me a “white devil” and a “honkey”. Petty racism goes both ways buddy.

Google “critical race theory”, and then google its criticisms. I’m not going to hash it out here, but it is clear this is what you believe. Racism is a social construct created entirely in our minds, and by teaching black kids to go into situations expecting prejudice does nothing except perpetuate the ideas.

Also, acting like someone following you around a jewelry store is some huge racist injustice is a joke and Harriet Tubman would probably laugh in your face.

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[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS.
[/quote]

This is where you are wrong. Being a minority in this country is a huge advantage. You get preferential treatment everywhere. You are acting like people are still going around hanging blacks from trees when for every Trayvon Martin murdered by a racist there are thousands and thousands of black people who get accepted to college, granted loans or given jobs over equally qualified white people simply because they were born with dark skin.

White people are sick of it, and we are sick of the victim mentality. We are sick of paying for mistakes that our great great great great grandfathers might have made, and we are sick of black people being compensated for crimes they themselves were never a victim of. The vast majority of educated, decent white people don’t have a single racist bone in their body. The percentage of truly racist people is a tiny, tiny fraction of white people as a whole. Quit acting like this is some epidemic when it’s not, it’s a very rare isolated case.

I didn’t even know what racism was until I was 8 or 9 years old. We played in the Texas state youth basketball tournament and an all black team called me a “white devil” and a “honkey”. Petty racism goes both ways buddy.

Google “critical race theory”, and then google its criticisms. I’m not going to hash it out here, but it is clear this is what you believe. Racism is a social construct created entirely in our minds, and by teaching black kids to go into situations expecting prejudice does nothing except perpetuate the ideas.

Also, acting like someone following you around a jewelry store is some huge racist injustice is a joke and Harriet Tubman would probably laugh in your face.

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Slow your roll friend. I get where you’re coming from and yes things have changed to help balance job/college fairness, but you will never be able to tell me that racism is only the small 1% of people in America. When I was growing up in New York my brother and I had to hide from a KKK member who was walking around looking for trouble…hood over his head and an axe. More recently I’vee been spit at at a gas station in Florida. I’ve experienced racial injustice more than your “racist people are only a small minority” arguement suggests. Have I simply been that unfortunate to run into every racially charged person in America? I think not.

I agree with you that some people can take entitlement of benefits and such too far because of civil rights history but that is NOT the majority. If there was no affirmitive action type of law in businesses and schools employment and enrollment would still be prodominately white by a landslide. 100% truth.

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[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS.
[/quote]

This is where you are wrong. Being a minority in this country is a huge advantage. You get preferential treatment everywhere. You are acting like people are still going around hanging blacks from trees when for every Trayvon Martin murdered by a racist there are thousands and thousands of black people who get accepted to college, granted loans or given jobs over equally qualified white people simply because they were born with dark skin.

White people are sick of it, and we are sick of the victim mentality. We are sick of paying for mistakes that our great great great great grandfathers might have made, and we are sick of black people being compensated for crimes they themselves were never a victim of. The vast majority of educated, decent white people don’t have a single racist bone in their body. The percentage of truly racist people is a tiny, tiny fraction of white people as a whole. Quit acting like this is some epidemic when it’s not, it’s a very rare isolated case.

I didn’t even know what racism was until I was 8 or 9 years old. We played in the Texas state youth basketball tournament and an all black team called me a “white devil” and a “honkey”. Petty racism goes both ways buddy.

Google “critical race theory”, and then google its criticisms. I’m not going to hash it out here, but it is clear this is what you believe. Racism is a social construct created entirely in our minds, and by teaching black kids to go into situations expecting prejudice does nothing except perpetuate the ideas.

Also, acting like someone following you around a jewelry store is some huge racist injustice is a joke and Harriet Tubman would probably laugh in your face.

[/quote]

Slow your roll friend. I get where you’re coming from and yes things have changed to help balance job/college fairness, but you will never be able to tell me that racism is only the small 1% of people in America. When I was growing up in New York my brother and I had to hide from a KKK member who was walking around looking for trouble…hood over his head and an axe. More recently I’vee been spit at at a gas station in Florida. I’ve experienced racial injustice more than your “racist people are only a small minority” arguement suggests. Have I simply been that unfortunate to run into every racially charged person in America? I think not.

I agree with you that some people can take entitlement of benefits and such too far because of civil rights history but that is NOT the majority. If there was no affirmitive action type of law in businesses and schools employment and enrollment would still be prodominately white by a landslide. 100% truth.[/quote]

Your anecdotal story could just be countered by any other person’s anecdotal story.

I think your second paragraph isn’t as true as you’d like it to be either. Plenty of fields of society have shown us that left to their own tendencies, performance rules, and people will employ or admit that which serves them best.

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[quote]red04 wrote:

[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS.
[/quote]

This is where you are wrong. Being a minority in this country is a huge advantage. You get preferential treatment everywhere. You are acting like people are still going around hanging blacks from trees when for every Trayvon Martin murdered by a racist there are thousands and thousands of black people who get accepted to college, granted loans or given jobs over equally qualified white people simply because they were born with dark skin.

White people are sick of it, and we are sick of the victim mentality. We are sick of paying for mistakes that our great great great great grandfathers might have made, and we are sick of black people being compensated for crimes they themselves were never a victim of. The vast majority of educated, decent white people don’t have a single racist bone in their body. The percentage of truly racist people is a tiny, tiny fraction of white people as a whole. Quit acting like this is some epidemic when it’s not, it’s a very rare isolated case.

I didn’t even know what racism was until I was 8 or 9 years old. We played in the Texas state youth basketball tournament and an all black team called me a “white devil” and a “honkey”. Petty racism goes both ways buddy.

Google “critical race theory”, and then google its criticisms. I’m not going to hash it out here, but it is clear this is what you believe. Racism is a social construct created entirely in our minds, and by teaching black kids to go into situations expecting prejudice does nothing except perpetuate the ideas.

Also, acting like someone following you around a jewelry store is some huge racist injustice is a joke and Harriet Tubman would probably laugh in your face.

[/quote]

Slow your roll friend. I get where you’re coming from and yes things have changed to help balance job/college fairness, but you will never be able to tell me that racism is only the small 1% of people in America. When I was growing up in New York my brother and I had to hide from a KKK member who was walking around looking for trouble…hood over his head and an axe. More recently I’vee been spit at at a gas station in Florida. I’ve experienced racial injustice more than your “racist people are only a small minority” arguement suggests. Have I simply been that unfortunate to run into every racially charged person in America? I think not.

I agree with you that some people can take entitlement of benefits and such too far because of civil rights history but that is NOT the majority. If there was no affirmitive action type of law in businesses and schools employment and enrollment would still be prodominately white by a landslide. 100% truth.[/quote]

Your anecdotal story could just be countered by any other person’s anecdotal story.

I think your second paragraph isn’t as true as you’d like it to be either. Plenty of fields of society have shown us that left to their own tendencies, performance rules, and people will employ or admit that which serves them best.[/quote]

Deep Sigh I’m sorry but I have to disagree. Maybe…MAYBE…but it wouldve taken a hella of a long time…like 100 years…I’m not even kidding!

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[quote]anonym wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I guess realizing they aren’t just fighting one black guy changes the responses.[/quote]

And who, pray tell, might this “they” group be who used to beat up on the only black guy posting in these sorts of threads four years ago and are now acting much more civil in this discussion?

Or, are we back to thinking that one or two posters speak for an entire race, again?[/quote]

Still waiting on an answer to this.

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BTW…these stories aren’t just “stories.” They are true events that have shaped how I deal with situations. If you’re implying that I’m lying…well that’s a bit insulting. My experience with racist/racism runs deep. If you don’t believe it because you wanna drink the koolaid and pretend like these things don’t happen anymore then it’s up to you to continue to live in ignorance.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DarkNinjaa wrote:

This is what happens when we go along with this bullshit ‘‘colorblind’’ agenda and don’t teach our kids the truth. Obviously people are not colorblind and have deep seated views about different cultures whether we discuss it openly or not.

This reminds me of the scene in Crash where that guy ends up shooting the black man in his car because he was afraid of him pulling a gun out of his pocket.[/quote]

Well, warning your kid that they are more likely to be profiled as a criminal because of race is now “racist”. It sort of leaves blacks in America with “damned if you do, damned if you don’t”.

From the comments, the ideal black parent is one who raises their kid to be clueless about discrimination since it isn’t an issue anyway…let’s just sweep the execution and racial profiling under the table and try our best to explain it away like it had NOTHING to do with skin color.

It makes me wonder what parents teach their kids when they ask why this happened. Do they just ignore the profiling part and try to make it seem like wearing a hood made this man a threat?

Do they equate grabbing at the waist with guns and violence to justify the action?[/quote]
Should white parents teach their kids that minorities commit the majority of violent crimes even though they make up a small portion of society and should therefore be viewed with suspicion if unknown?[/quote]

They should be taught about socioeconomic differences, not that one race is more likely to kill you because they are black.

This kid died by the hands of AUTHORITY FIGURES, not random drive bys. Big difference, homie.

A black person is more likely to be discriminated against is NORMAL SOCIAL SITUATIONS. I would raise a black kid to be on their guard in certain neighborhoods as well but RACE would not be why.

There is a pretty HUGE difference in making your child aware that more eyes will be on them as a potential social negative based on their race as a minority (which WILL hold them back if not aware of why with understanding of how to work around it)…and telling your kid that black people are more likely to kill you because they are black.
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I see your point.

The damned if you do, damned if you don’t comment in this context is an angle I’ve never really considered as I don’t have a real basis for perception here. Interesting insight and understandable though I do believe parenting racial suspicion in to children perpetuates institutional racism, from either side. A necessary evil perhaps but when people automatically pull the racist card it is honestly a little sad to see, makes you wonder what the world looks like when everyone with white skin is a potential KKK member, not unlike stereotyping blacks as potentially more dangerous at all.

Surely being overly suspicious is more damaging than helpful.
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I have been told by students that they assumed I was racist because I am from Texas. This is usually said at the end of the semester after they have not been able to prove their assumption right.

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[quote]FrozenNinja wrote:
BTW…these stories aren’t just “stories.” They are true events that have shaped how I deal with situations. If you’re implying that I’m lying…well that’s a bit insulting. My experience with racist/racism runs deep. If you don’t believe it because you wanna drink the koolaid and pretend like these things don’t happen anymore then it’s up to you to continue to live in ignorance.[/quote]

How is calling an anecdotal story an anecdotal story an implication of untruth? My statement merely means that your personal experiences could be countered by someone like myself(even if I chose not to disclose said counter anecdote).