Black Teen Shot by Neighborhood Watch

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
But, to address your point, if crime figures are micro-managed for drug arrests, so are the figures for every other crime. [/quote]

The problem with this is it still assumes that blacks are actually committing these homicide. [/quote]

Does it? Really?[/quote]

… Yes.[/quote]

Explain.[/quote]

Your point is that police will stake out a dealers house and catch the customers rather than the dealer in order to fill a quota. You also contend that this technique could be applied to violent crime. The thing is, under the conditions you laid out, the customers being arrested are actually guilty of buying illegal drugs, so for this same scenario to be applied to violent crime, it is assumed that these black people are actually committing these violent crimes, otherwise this technique doesn’t apply.

For example, maybe the police stake out an area known for being a violent crime hot-spot and await for someone to commit a violent crime rather than making their presence known ahead of time in order to fill a quota. The thing is, if no one is actually committing a violent crime, nobodies getting arrested and the quota isn’t getting filled. If they are committing a violent crime, well that’s the whole argument right there, now isn’t it? [/quote]

The difference is that I know this happens and you are equivocating based on what I’ve told you. Profiling is at work to create crime stats that you’re using to defend the death of a kid who had no record. That’s been your whole argument.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sifu wrote:
I’m guessing that you have never seen this behavior where you live, but if you have ever been to Miami it is something you see. It is part of the Miami “I’m so hood” dress code and is related to the pants down around your ass, fashion statement. To do it properly you don’t just hold onto your waistband or put your hand at your waist. They grab up their pants in such a way that it looks like they are carrying something and are using their pants to conceal it. Then there is the slouch and walk that goes with it that makes it look like there is something in their pants making it difficult to walk normal. The look is meant to give the impression that they are carrying a gun because that is what it looks like. Or as the man says at 3:38 of this I’m so hood video “pants hanging off me now cuz my pistol heavy, I’m so hood” [/quote]

The thing is, we have that in Houston as well and I don’t see “thug with potential gun” when I see it because the style is too widespread and that is NOT what most of the people with their pants sagging are doing.

That means if you attach a blatantly criminal act directly to a style, you would have to be blind to not see the mistakes that could lead to.

This kid had a bunch of store bought goods…IN THE RAIN…he was trying to keep dry. That would make anyone’s pants sag because Arizona Iced tea is pretty heavy.

That means if you see “black man with pants sagging” and immediately think “thug with gun”, you are making the same mistakes as any racist would whether you call yourself one or not. Your limited exposure to that style or the people who use it has led you to purely negative conclusions based on it that you can’t see past.

I see the same guy and none of the same thoughts enter my mind because I grew up around that culture and I’m not afraid of every black person I see who isn’t dressed like Bryant Gumble.[/quote]

The pants around the ass is something I have seen plenty enough of to be used to it. It’s the clutching at their pants near the waistband looking like they have something heavy in them move that looks suspect. I don’t see that every day, but there have been a few times where I have thought to myself it looks like he is packing a gat.

I hope this isn’t a revelation to you Professor X but I have had the misfortune of meeting some really shady white people who sported the thug look. They lived up to their appearance. I feel more comfortable associating with the Black folk. Even my Jamaican friends who look like the Predator.

I don’t know about Bryant Gumble. For some reason after watching Wayne Brady, Bryant Gumble reminds me of Malcom X.

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

Right because, as we all know, there was no slavery in Africa before the white man came…

Black slavery has been blown way out of proportion. I’m actually surprised to see this argument from you. [quote] I’m full of surprises [/quote] Are you aware that when colonists came to South Africa, it was almost completely devoid of African’s? African’s actually moved into South Africa because they saw benefit from European technology.

This is actually part of a much bigger topic that I just don’t have the energy to go into right now. For now, I think it’s enough to say that Africa absolutely had tribal warfare and slavery before the colonists. [/quote]

Debate away…

Warlike races are not inclined to be enslaved, nor do they make “good” slaves (see Mayans and Aztecs and their extinction/ lasting legacy. Oh and vikings) Tribal warfare and inter-tribal captivity are not the same as commercial slavery. In modern terms, tribal warfare is defused during a sports game; the parallel can be be seen in war dances.

You assume that Africa needed to be invaded in order to progress.[/quote]

Dude, it’s simply a matter of fact that Africa had slavery before Europeans went there. Most African slaves the Europeans took with them were bought… as slaves. They were already slaves.

Why are you talking about sports? This is irrelevant.

Once again, there were parts of Africa that didn’t even have the wheel before Europeans colonized it. I’m not saying that they would never have progressed, but 50,000 years is a long time to not think up the wheel. [/quote]

Sports are relevant when you want them to be. Where was the wheel invented?[/quote]

Mesopotamia/ Central Europe. [/quote]

Why?[/quote]

Why was it invented there or why was it invented at all?[/quote]

Both are interrelated.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
But, to address your point, if crime figures are micro-managed for drug arrests, so are the figures for every other crime. [/quote]

The problem with this is it still assumes that blacks are actually committing these homicide. [/quote]

Does it? Really?[/quote]

… Yes.[/quote]

Explain.[/quote]

Your point is that police will stake out a dealers house and catch the customers rather than the dealer in order to fill a quota. You also contend that this technique could be applied to violent crime. The thing is, under the conditions you laid out, the customers being arrested are actually guilty of buying illegal drugs, so for this same scenario to be applied to violent crime, it is assumed that these black people are actually committing these violent crimes, otherwise this technique doesn’t apply.

For example, maybe the police stake out an area known for being a violent crime hot-spot and await for someone to commit a violent crime rather than making their presence known ahead of time in order to fill a quota. The thing is, if no one is actually committing a violent crime, nobodies getting arrested and the quota isn’t getting filled. If they are committing a violent crime, well that’s the whole argument right there, now isn’t it? [/quote]

The difference is that I know this happens and you are equivocating based on what I’ve told you. Profiling is at work to create crime stats that you’re using to defend the death of a kid who had no record. That’s been your whole argument.

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I’m not defending his murder.

You can’t brush aside 52% of all homicide as “profiling”. That’s insane.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

Right because, as we all know, there was no slavery in Africa before the white man came…

Black slavery has been blown way out of proportion. I’m actually surprised to see this argument from you. [quote] I’m full of surprises [/quote] Are you aware that when colonists came to South Africa, it was almost completely devoid of African’s? African’s actually moved into South Africa because they saw benefit from European technology.

This is actually part of a much bigger topic that I just don’t have the energy to go into right now. For now, I think it’s enough to say that Africa absolutely had tribal warfare and slavery before the colonists. [/quote]

Debate away…

Warlike races are not inclined to be enslaved, nor do they make “good” slaves (see Mayans and Aztecs and their extinction/ lasting legacy. Oh and vikings) Tribal warfare and inter-tribal captivity are not the same as commercial slavery. In modern terms, tribal warfare is defused during a sports game; the parallel can be be seen in war dances.

You assume that Africa needed to be invaded in order to progress.[/quote]

Dude, it’s simply a matter of fact that Africa had slavery before Europeans went there. Most African slaves the Europeans took with them were bought… as slaves. They were already slaves.

Why are you talking about sports? This is irrelevant.

Once again, there were parts of Africa that didn’t even have the wheel before Europeans colonized it. I’m not saying that they would never have progressed, but 50,000 years is a long time to not think up the wheel. [/quote]

Sports are relevant when you want them to be. Where was the wheel invented?[/quote]

Mesopotamia/ Central Europe. [/quote]

Why?[/quote]

Why was it invented there or why was it invented at all?[/quote]

Both are interrelated.[/quote]

K, I really hope this is going somewhere and you’re not just biding time until you come up with something.

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago.

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
But, to address your point, if crime figures are micro-managed for drug arrests, so are the figures for every other crime. [/quote]

The problem with this is it still assumes that blacks are actually committing these homicide. [/quote]

Does it? Really?[/quote]

… Yes.[/quote]

Explain.[/quote]

Your point is that police will stake out a dealers house and catch the customers rather than the dealer in order to fill a quota. You also contend that this technique could be applied to violent crime. The thing is, under the conditions you laid out, the customers being arrested are actually guilty of buying illegal drugs, so for this same scenario to be applied to violent crime, it is assumed that these black people are actually committing these violent crimes, otherwise this technique doesn’t apply.

For example, maybe the police stake out an area known for being a violent crime hot-spot and await for someone to commit a violent crime rather than making their presence known ahead of time in order to fill a quota. The thing is, if no one is actually committing a violent crime, nobodies getting arrested and the quota isn’t getting filled. If they are committing a violent crime, well that’s the whole argument right there, now isn’t it? [/quote]

The difference is that I know this happens and you are equivocating based on what I’ve told you. Profiling is at work to create crime stats that you’re using to defend the death of a kid who had no record. That’s been your whole argument.

[/quote]
I’m not defending his murder.

You can’t brush aside 52% of all homicide as “profiling”. That’s insane. [/quote]

What’s insane is that you claim not to defend his death, then say the stats can’t be ignored.

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The wheel was invented to move things a long time ago and I’m biding my time?

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

Right because, as we all know, there was no slavery in Africa before the white man came…

Black slavery has been blown way out of proportion. I’m actually surprised to see this argument from you. [quote] I’m full of surprises [/quote] Are you aware that when colonists came to South Africa, it was almost completely devoid of African’s? African’s actually moved into South Africa because they saw benefit from European technology.

This is actually part of a much bigger topic that I just don’t have the energy to go into right now. For now, I think it’s enough to say that Africa absolutely had tribal warfare and slavery before the colonists. [/quote]

Debate away…

Warlike races are not inclined to be enslaved, nor do they make “good” slaves (see Mayans and Aztecs and their extinction/ lasting legacy. Oh and vikings) Tribal warfare and inter-tribal captivity are not the same as commercial slavery. In modern terms, tribal warfare is defused during a sports game; the parallel can be be seen in war dances.

You assume that Africa needed to be invaded in order to progress.[/quote]

Dude, it’s simply a matter of fact that Africa had slavery before Europeans went there. Most African slaves the Europeans took with them were bought… as slaves. They were already slaves.

Why are you talking about sports? This is irrelevant.

Once again, there were parts of Africa that didn’t even have the wheel before Europeans colonized it. I’m not saying that they would never have progressed, but 50,000 years is a long time to not think up the wheel. [/quote]

Sports are relevant when you want them to be. Where was the wheel invented?[/quote]

Mesopotamia/ Central Europe. [/quote]

Why?[/quote]

Why was it invented there or why was it invented at all?[/quote]

Both are interrelated.[/quote]

K, I really hope this is going somewhere and you’re not just biding time until you come up with something.

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The Incans never thought of using it that way. They used it for a astrological computer calendar you might could call it. And if you’re theory about moving away from Africa means smarter people, shouldn’t the Native Americans be light years ahead of everyone?

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:
But, to address your point, if crime figures are micro-managed for drug arrests, so are the figures for every other crime. [/quote]

The problem with this is it still assumes that blacks are actually committing these homicide. [/quote]

Does it? Really?[/quote]

… Yes.[/quote]

Explain.[/quote]

Your point is that police will stake out a dealers house and catch the customers rather than the dealer in order to fill a quota. You also contend that this technique could be applied to violent crime. The thing is, under the conditions you laid out, the customers being arrested are actually guilty of buying illegal drugs, so for this same scenario to be applied to violent crime, it is assumed that these black people are actually committing these violent crimes, otherwise this technique doesn’t apply.

For example, maybe the police stake out an area known for being a violent crime hot-spot and await for someone to commit a violent crime rather than making their presence known ahead of time in order to fill a quota. The thing is, if no one is actually committing a violent crime, nobodies getting arrested and the quota isn’t getting filled. If they are committing a violent crime, well that’s the whole argument right there, now isn’t it? [/quote]

The difference is that I know this happens and you are equivocating based on what I’ve told you. Profiling is at work to create crime stats that you’re using to defend the death of a kid who had no record. That’s been your whole argument.

[/quote]
I’m not defending his murder.

You can’t brush aside 52% of all homicide as “profiling”. That’s insane. [/quote]

What’s insane is that you claim not to defend his death, then say the stats can’t be ignored.[/quote]

A 17 year old black kid can get shot and killed without falsifying every American victimization study ever made.

Full disclosure, I’m rapidly losing faith in this discussion with you going anywhere.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The wheel was invented to move things a long time ago and I’m biding my time? [/quote]

Hey, this is your train of thought, I’m just playing along. What answer where you hoping for, exactly?

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

A 17 year old black kid can get shot and killed without falsifying every American victimization study ever made.

Full disclosure, I’m rapidly losing faith in this discussion with you going anywhere. [/quote]

What do the studies have to do with his death, then? Simple question requires simple answer…

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[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]four60 wrote:
^ Sorry Sifu,
It seems the quote button does not want to work with this conversation. Both our text seem to blend so I’ll just place it here.

No, its not that I don’t understand what Zimmerman was looking for its that Zimmerman seen it in places even though it was not present.

We use to call it Situational Awareness in my old job. Its strange that wearing a Hooded sweat shirt in the rain and walking is considered a crimminal Modus Operandi.

Let us not forget the kid was found with candy and Ice Tea not a gun in his waist.[/quote]

That is somewhat the point I’ve been trying to make. There was what was going on in Zimmerman’s mind and there is what Martin was thinking. They probably both misread each others intentions to some extent. But with Zimmerman he read way too much into what he was seeing and made things much more serious than they needed to be.

I agree that one would think it normal to wear a hoodie in the rain and cold. But there is also the cultural phenomenon known as the “hood rat” which is a culture that crosses racial lines.
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Dude, this post is just silly. It is making it look like you get all of your knowledge about “black people” from the late night news. “Hood rat” doesn’t have shit to do with wearing a hood. I am really laughing right now that someone thought this.

There is no negative connotation to wearing a shirt with a hood unless you read one into it.

In fact, every negative act Zimmerman thought was going on was only believed to be true because of this kid’s skin color. If he was on the phone, the “suspiciously looking into houses” becomes way more suspect…and with a hood on, acting like he knew what he was looking at is ridiculous anyway.

Bottom line, if you want to see a criminal, you will see one. That goes for this and is likely the reason for greater arrest rates at least to some degree.

This kid was executed while talking on the phone and the shooter WALKED. That shit does not happen to black people. There is no way in hell i could shoot someone tonight, wait for the cops, and then walk home as if nothing happened.

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[quote]Sifu wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]sifu wrote:
I’m guessing that you have never seen this behavior where you live, but if you have ever been to Miami it is something you see. It is part of the Miami “I’m so hood” dress code and is related to the pants down around your ass, fashion statement. To do it properly you don’t just hold onto your waistband or put your hand at your waist. They grab up their pants in such a way that it looks like they are carrying something and are using their pants to conceal it. Then there is the slouch and walk that goes with it that makes it look like there is something in their pants making it difficult to walk normal. The look is meant to give the impression that they are carrying a gun because that is what it looks like. Or as the man says at 3:38 of this I’m so hood video “pants hanging off me now cuz my pistol heavy, I’m so hood” [/quote]

The thing is, we have that in Houston as well and I don’t see “thug with potential gun” when I see it because the style is too widespread and that is NOT what most of the people with their pants sagging are doing.

That means if you attach a blatantly criminal act directly to a style, you would have to be blind to not see the mistakes that could lead to.

This kid had a bunch of store bought goods…IN THE RAIN…he was trying to keep dry. That would make anyone’s pants sag because Arizona Iced tea is pretty heavy.

That means if you see “black man with pants sagging” and immediately think “thug with gun”, you are making the same mistakes as any racist would whether you call yourself one or not. Your limited exposure to that style or the people who use it has led you to purely negative conclusions based on it that you can’t see past.

I see the same guy and none of the same thoughts enter my mind because I grew up around that culture and I’m not afraid of every black person I see who isn’t dressed like Bryant Gumble.[/quote]

The pants around the ass is something I have seen plenty enough of to be used to it. It’s the clutching at their pants near the waistband looking like they have something heavy in them move that looks suspect. I don’t see that every day, but there have been a few times where I have thought to myself it looks like he is packing a gat.

I hope this isn’t a revelation to you Professor X but I have had the misfortune of meeting some really shady white people who sported the thug look. They lived up to their appearance. I feel more comfortable associating with the Black folk. Even my Jamaican friends who look like the Predator.

I don’t know about Bryant Gumble. For some reason after watching Wayne Brady, Bryant Gumble reminds me of Malcom X.

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Dude, once again, like someone else mentioned, that is the worst dress code for a “hit and run”. I know that is what you want to believe but clutching at your waist or crotch has been emulated in rap videos since the early 80’s. Your belief that it is simply “gun related” is so because you want it to be. What handbook are you getting this crap out of?

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[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The wheel was invented to move things a long time ago and I’m biding my time? [/quote]

Hey, this is your train of thought, I’m just playing along. What answer where you hoping for, exactly?[/quote]

Well, since YOU mentioned the wheel, I guess you’re the driver of this train. Where’s the final stop?

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[quote]hungry4more wrote:
Hmm, just saw this story on TV for the first time today. Apparently the kid was on his phone with his gf as it was happening, and repeatedly asked Zimmerman why he was following him, etc etc…sure seem to throw [even] more suspicion Zimmerman’s way. Glad that they’re protesting this and insisting on a full investigation. How the hell you gonna shoot an unarmed person with no eyewitnesses and not even get taken into custody?

hit the gym, I think it’s a very community-specific thing. My wife is black, and the only “racist” type thing I see even somewhat regularly is black dudes apparently telling her she should get with “a real man” aka them. They should be glad I’ve never seen/heard this happen in person. She’s told me of this happening multiple times though.

Having said that, I’m based in a military town, being in the Marines; so there is a larger than normal “minority” population in the area. On a somewhat related and interesting (to me) note, I VERY rarely see racism popping up in the military, as compared to civilian life…can’t help but wonder if it’s because of the greater interaction with varying races that tends to occur in the military. Thoughts on this from other people with military background?[/quote]

Honestly, my time in the military was very positive. If I noticed anything at all it was either from the older people who were civilians in the area (this was Florida and the area seemed to attract that “retirement crowd”) or older officers who were nearing or over 50. Other than that, everybody else pretty much made it work as a team. I actually miss that aspect because you could actually count on the people around you. My main issue in was that I stood out everywhere. It caused me to really have my shit together since I seemed to catch the eye of others easier.

Also, the comments your girl gets should only cause one emotion…pride that she looks good enough to get that hassle from others. i think I would be more pissed if no one wanted to talk to her at all.

Edit: I do remember one time an Asian airman wouldn’t let me work on him and literally questioned whether I was an actual officer (all docs wore scrubs on the floor so it wasn’t dress code related). I think that was the only truly blatant display of it.

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[quote]Fletch1986 wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

Right because, as we all know, there was no slavery in Africa before the white man came…

Black slavery has been blown way out of proportion. I’m actually surprised to see this argument from you. [quote] I’m full of surprises [/quote] Are you aware that when colonists came to South Africa, it was almost completely devoid of African’s? African’s actually moved into South Africa because they saw benefit from European technology.

This is actually part of a much bigger topic that I just don’t have the energy to go into right now. For now, I think it’s enough to say that Africa absolutely had tribal warfare and slavery before the colonists. [/quote]

Debate away…

Warlike races are not inclined to be enslaved, nor do they make “good” slaves (see Mayans and Aztecs and their extinction/ lasting legacy. Oh and vikings) Tribal warfare and inter-tribal captivity are not the same as commercial slavery. In modern terms, tribal warfare is defused during a sports game; the parallel can be be seen in war dances.

You assume that Africa needed to be invaded in order to progress.[/quote]

Dude, it’s simply a matter of fact that Africa had slavery before Europeans went there. Most African slaves the Europeans took with them were bought… as slaves. They were already slaves.

Why are you talking about sports? This is irrelevant.

Once again, there were parts of Africa that didn’t even have the wheel before Europeans colonized it. I’m not saying that they would never have progressed, but 50,000 years is a long time to not think up the wheel. [/quote]

Sports are relevant when you want them to be. Where was the wheel invented?[/quote]

Mesopotamia/ Central Europe. [/quote]

Why?[/quote]

Why was it invented there or why was it invented at all?[/quote]

Both are interrelated.[/quote]

K, I really hope this is going somewhere and you’re not just biding time until you come up with something.

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The Incans never thought of using it that way. They used it for a astrological computer calendar you might could call it. And if you’re theory about moving away from Africa means smarter people, shouldn’t the Native Americans be light years ahead of everyone?[/quote]

Amerindian are descendants of South East Asians. They didn’t come to the America’s until about 14,000 years ago. Out of Africa theory suggests Homo Erectus left Africa 1.5 million years ago and bred with behaviourally modern homo sapiens some 60,000 years ago. The damage had already been done, so to speak.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

A 17 year old black kid can get shot and killed without falsifying every American victimization study ever made.

Full disclosure, I’m rapidly losing faith in this discussion with you going anywhere. [/quote]

What do the studies have to do with his death, then? Simple question requires simple answer…[/quote]

Maybe you should go back a couple pages to my first post in this thread and see for yourself before jumping to conclusions.

Simple problem requires simple solution.

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[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

[quote]roybot wrote:

[quote]TigerTime wrote:

The wheel was invented because it has utility in moving things and as it happens, somebody in that area first figured this out about 65,000 years ago. [/quote]

The wheel was invented to move things a long time ago and I’m biding my time? [/quote]

Hey, this is your train of thought, I’m just playing along. What answer where you hoping for, exactly?[/quote]

Well, since YOU mentioned the wheel, I guess you’re the driver of this train. Where’s the final stop?[/quote]

We were talking about slavery. I brought up the wheel to make a point and you, for some reason, ran with it.

I see now that you’re just “saying things” and I don’t find small talk entertaining. Unless you actually bring something to the table, this will be my last response to you.

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Good Gawd there has been WAAAAAAY too much “tiger time” in this thread.

Fucker needs a tiger time out.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
Good Gawd there has been WAAAAAAY too much “tiger time” in this thread.

Fucker needs a tiger time out.[/quote]

What a coincidence, I just ran out of contenders. Guess I’m out for now.