[quote]Sifu wrote:
I’m done on this point.[/quote]
One can dream.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
I’m done on this point.[/quote]
One can dream.[/quote]
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/04/25/us-usa-florida-shooting-zimmerman-idUSBRE83O18H20120425
Alan Derschowitz weighs in.
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?[/quote]
It’s illogical to post a fact I found interesting?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?[/quote]
It’s illogical to post a fact I found interesting? [/quote]
Well, it is fascinating that you find that interesting. I find the fact that someone being half black makes them “black” but someone being half white makes them whatever diluted the whiteness hilarious.
LOL
[quote]tom63 wrote:
Alan Derschowitz weighs in.[/quote]
When the champion of all things left-wing thinks there’s a problem here, race baiters need to stop for a second and take notice.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?[/quote]
It’s illogical to post a fact I found interesting? [/quote]
Well, it is fascinating that you find that interesting. I find the fact that someone being half black makes them “black” but someone being half white makes them whatever diluted the whiteness hilarious.
LOL[/quote]
Well that’s an argument made by someone other than me…
What it would make me think however is that his attack may have not been racially motivated. He still could’ve killed this kid and rightfully deserved to go to prison however.
Wouldn’t the likelihood of this killing being racially motivated decrease seeing how he himself has some black lineage in his ancestry?
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?[/quote]
It’s illogical to post a fact I found interesting? [/quote]
Well, it is fascinating that you find that interesting. I find the fact that someone being half black makes them “black” but someone being half white makes them whatever diluted the whiteness hilarious.
LOL[/quote]
Well that’s an argument made by someone other than me…
What it would make me think however is that his attack may have not been racially motivated. He still could’ve killed this kid and rightfully deserved to go to prison however.
Wouldn’t the likelihood of this killing being racially motivated decrease seeing how he himself has some black lineage in his ancestry?[/quote]
No, because there are black people who are racist against other black people. You know this, right? I mean, shit, anyone who grew up with Ricki Lake and Jenny Jones knows this. It changes NOTHING because what we have discussed from the beginning is how racism against blacks in today’s society is more ingrained institutionally than the stereotype of some ancient red neck yelling “nigger”.
This kid was targeted because of his skin color. Yes, I do believe that. Some guy having a black great grandfather doesn’t change how that individual sees the world.
If you would walk past a white man and a black man both dressed the same but clutch your wallet or purse tighter when walking past the black guy at night, you are making a racist decision…no matter how many stats you quote.
And off we go…
Are we forgetting racism entails a hatred for a certain race?
Blacks hate blacks because they’re black. I bet.
[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
Are we forgetting racism entails a hatred for a certain race?
Blacks hate blacks because they’re black. I bet.[/quote]
" . … I walk down the street and hear footsteps and start thinking about robbery. Then I look around and see somebody white and feel relieved…"
Jessie Jackson
Remarks at a meeting of Operation PUSH in Chicago (27 November 1993). Quoted in “Crime: New Frontier - Jesse Jackson Calls It Top Civil-Rights Issue” by Mary A. Johnson, 29 November 1993, Chicago Sun-Times
THE PROFILING BIGOT!
[quote]Professor X wrote:
If you would walk past a white man and a black man both dressed the same but clutch your wallet or purse tighter when walking past the black guy at night, you are making a racist decision…[/quote]
…said the guy, right before carjacking the white people.
Oh wait, that was in Crash. Nevermind 
But then again, these kinds of situations do bring that movie to mind.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
[quote]Professor X wrote:
[quote]therajraj wrote:
So it turns out Zimmerman has black roots.
" He was raised in a racially integrated household and himself has black roots through an Afro-Peruvian great-grandfather - the father of the maternal grandmother who helped raise him."
LOL. if his father being white doesn’t matter, why the fuck would we acknowledge some long distant family member?
LOL @ logic.
We can’t even call him “white hispanic” but we are going to go dig up some ancient relative to prove…what?[/quote]
It’s illogical to post a fact I found interesting? [/quote]
Well, it is fascinating that you find that interesting. I find the fact that someone being half black makes them “black” but someone being half white makes them whatever diluted the whiteness hilarious.
LOL[/quote]
Well that’s an argument made by someone other than me…
What it would make me think however is that his attack may have not been racially motivated. He still could’ve killed this kid and rightfully deserved to go to prison however.
Wouldn’t the likelihood of this killing being racially motivated decrease seeing how he himself has some black lineage in his ancestry?[/quote]
No, because there are black people who are racist against other black people. You know this, right? I mean, shit, anyone who grew up with Ricki Lake and Jenny Jones knows this. It changes NOTHING because what we have discussed from the beginning is how racism against blacks in today’s society is more ingrained institutionally than the stereotype of some ancient red neck yelling “nigger”.
This kid was targeted because of his skin color. Yes, I do believe that. Some guy having a black great grandfather doesn’t change how that individual sees the world.
If you would walk past a white man and a black man both dressed the same but clutch your wallet or purse tighter when walking past the black guy at night, you are making a racist decision…no matter how many stats you quote.[/quote]
I don’t think it has as much to do with race as social class anymore. To me it seems that since I came from a lower middle class background, I tend to fit right in with black people coming from the same background. I have to say that wearing a large baggy hoody, and baggy /saggy clothes is more indicative of being low class than a specific race. And actually now on the UT campus the cool thing is skinny jeans and tight shirts for guys so in a few years I think the baggy clothes and hoodies will be gone for the most part. I have never heard anyone say anything about black people being racists to other blacks, I thought Uncle Ruckus was just a fictional character made for laughs.
[quote]WW3General wrote:
I have never heard anyone say anything about black people being racists to other blacks, I thought Uncle Ruckus was just a fictional character made for laughs.[/quote]
Made me think of this: (especially at 7:10)
[quote]Professor X wrote:
No, because there are black people who are racist against other black people. You know this, right? I mean, shit, anyone who grew up with Ricki Lake and Jenny Jones knows this. It changes NOTHING because what we have discussed from the beginning is how racism against blacks in today’s society is more ingrained institutionally than the stereotype of some ancient red neck yelling “nigger”.
This kid was targeted because of his skin color. Yes, I do believe that. Some guy having a black great grandfather doesn’t change how that individual sees the world.
If you would walk past a white man and a black man both dressed the same but clutch your wallet or purse tighter when walking past the black guy at night, you are making a racist decision…no matter how many stats you quote.[/quote]
Interesting post.
My own father’s grandfather came straight from Ireland. Yet my dad has a certain degree of derision against the Irish. Similarly, his great great grandmother was a full-blooded Crow indian, yet one of my dad’s most revered heroes is Gen. George Custer. I recently asked my dad how he internalizes these things in justification.
He said, “I don’t”.
Good Reuters article on Zimmermans background. It gives good context to the 911 phone conversation:
http://news.yahoo.com/george-zimmerman-prelude-shooting-194235114.html
Not sure if it’s been posted already.
