So who was it again that was trying to tell me this bitch was copyrighting the slogan so people couldn’t profit off her son’s death?
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.
I really can’t wait for this trial. I mean guilty is guilty if the facts show it but I have a feeling some conjecture will prove to be more sensible than other conjecture. Just saying.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
hahahah, OH wow man. Ok. I can’t debate if you are going to reach like this.
They found weed residue in his backpack, not a kilo, hahahahahahaha. Lets just say you may have a hard time finding 12 people in florida who even see weed as a issue. The cops didn’t even find it worthy of conversation its why the school had to do something.
Still, has nothing to do with the case. [/quote]
I wrote several paragraphs. You need to be more specific as to how I am reaching or I can’t debate with you either.
Finding a baggy in his book bag with weed residue in it would tend to strongly suggest that at one point in time he had some weed on him and he made it go bye bye. Kids don’t carry around empty weed baggys to show their friends so they can act cool. So get real.
I don’t know where you went to smoke weed when you were a teen but my parents did not let me smoke in the house. It is my understanding of the reality that normal parents don’t let their kids get high in the house. So I was assuming that Trayvon’s parents were normal and he would have to go outside to do it. Am I wrong? Is it normal for black parents to let their kids get high in the family home?
I know a lot of people who work in treatment or are in recovery who would disagree with you that weed is nothing. It is a drug. It may not be a real strong one but it is a drug. The use of drugs is just a symptom of the disease of addiction. Taking away the drugs from an addict just uncovers all the emotional shit that drives them to use.
That is why people can get really irritable when they get clean. If they were using a drug as a coping mechanism to stuff their anger taking away the drug doesn’t take away their anger it just takes away their coping mechanism. In AA they have a term for this they call it a dry drunk. It when a person isn’t drinking but they are a complete mother fucker to be around because they aren’t dealing with their underlying issues.
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[quote]Sifu wrote:
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
LMAO, were you high when you wrote this? How did you come up with all that? Definitely give you credit for the vivid imagination.
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Actually I haven’t done anything like that in years. So where did you smoke weed when you were a teenager? Were you one of those kids who had permissive parents who allowed it in the house or even smoked it with you?
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[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.[/quote]
Whether a drug test came back positive or negative doesn’t matter. Getting high is not a prerequisite to wait somewhere for the dopeman to come and bring you some shit.
It does not matter what drug is preferred there is only one reason why addicts use. It is because they cannot deal with their emotions. Weed is a tranquilizer. If a teenager from a broken home is self medicating with weed as a coping mechanism to deal with his anger and you take away the weed you still have a teen from a broken home with an anger problem. The only thing that has changed is you have taken away his coping mechanism. So now his anger can come out.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.[/quote]
Whether a drug test came back positive or negative doesn’t matter. Getting high is not a prerequisite to wait somewhere for the dopeman to come and bring you some shit.
It does not matter what drug is preferred there is only one reason why addicts use. It is because they cannot deal with their emotions. Weed is a tranquilizer. If a teenager from a broken home is self medicating with weed as a coping mechanism to deal with his anger and you take away the weed you still have a teen from a broken home with an anger problem. The only thing that has changed is you have taken away his coping mechanism. So now his anger can come out. [/quote]
Stop…lol.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.[/quote]
Whether a drug test came back positive or negative doesn’t matter. Getting high is not a prerequisite to wait somewhere for the dopeman to come and bring you some shit.
It does not matter what drug is preferred there is only one reason why addicts use. It is because they cannot deal with their emotions. Weed is a tranquilizer. If a teenager from a broken home is self medicating with weed as a coping mechanism to deal with his anger and you take away the weed you still have a teen from a broken home with an anger problem. The only thing that has changed is you have taken away his coping mechanism. So now his anger can come out. [/quote]
Weed is not a tranquillizer.
I had a similar experience with marijuana . I tried it three times and got very angry and paranoid . It shocked the crap out of the others who smoked regularly. I felt paranoid, angry, and was looking for a fight . It’s not a benign mellow you out thing for everyone .
Things that don’t make me crazy: beer, whiskey etc. I’ve seen two pot users in my family go without and get very irritable .
They are females , but if male I see the potential for violence like a fight.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
This doctor classifies it as a sedative .
http://www.druglibrary.org/schaffer/library/marij.htm
[quote]otar wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.[/quote]
Whether a drug test came back positive or negative doesn’t matter. Getting high is not a prerequisite to wait somewhere for the dopeman to come and bring you some shit.
It does not matter what drug is preferred there is only one reason why addicts use. It is because they cannot deal with their emotions. Weed is a tranquilizer. If a teenager from a broken home is self medicating with weed as a coping mechanism to deal with his anger and you take away the weed you still have a teen from a broken home with an anger problem. The only thing that has changed is you have taken away his coping mechanism. So now his anger can come out. [/quote]
Weed is not a tranquillizer.[/quote]
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Actually I haven’t done anything like that in years. So where did you smoke weed when you were a teenager? Were you one of those kids who had permissive parents who allowed it in the house or even smoked it with you? [/quote]
No, you weren’t off base on that part. I would leave the house and take a walk if I wanted to smoke that bad, but not unless I knew the neighborhood very well. There are so many other reasons why your conjecture was way out there:
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If he was high, he would’ve tested positive or someone would have smelt it on him. If not, his clothes his fingers.Your fingers will smell for a couple hours after you’ve smoked a joint.
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If he was waiting for the “dopeman”, he would’ve met him at the convenience store where people constantly come and go. I don’t think a dealer would want to be making sales in private gated communities.
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He doesn’t live in that area so I doubt he even knew where to buy pot or had a connection.
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They didn’t report that he had paraphernalia on him, so what was he going to smoke the pot in? No papers, no blunt, no pipe.
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I’ve abused both alcohol and pot and have even been to a few AA meetings. There is no way you can compare the withdrawal symptoms of pot to a true alcoholic. Withdrawal from alcohol has physical symptoms and can literally make you sick and even cause seizures. Your body becomes chemically dependent on the alcohol similar to a heroin addicts withdrawal. I’ve seen people go through this. Being a little edgy from not smoking pot doesn’t compare.
http://www.alcohol-drug-rehab-directory.com/alcohol.html
I think the kid was probably bored so he took a walk to yap on the phone with his girl and buy some snacks. He probably was in a bad mood and took exception to GZ harassing him so he kicked his ass. This is admittedly conjecture as well.
If Sifu isn’t playing games, somebody needs a psychologist.
STFU, SIFU!
lol
[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Does the information regarding Trayvon being in possession of women’s jewelry that admittedly did not belong to him and from a source he refused to name, make anyone question his true intent while walking around at night in the rain? [/quote]
NOPE, and neither did Zimmermans altercations with the police make me question why Zimmerman went to the same 7/11 that night. Zimmerman was not found with booze in his truck or a I hate police sticker that night and Martin was not found with any burglary tools or weapons or any jewlry that night.
It was 2 people who went to the store and had an altercation on the way back. The story/crime is in what happened on the way back from the store.
People want you to look into everything other than what happened that night. Its a game both sides are playing [/quote]
I don’t think that Zimmerman’s run in with the police almost a decade ago can be viewed equally to Martin’s run in with the school authorities a week prior. For the simple fact that Zimmerman had a decade to grow out of his bad teen behavior while with Martin something that happened just a week prior could point to ongoing, current problems.
It does make make Martin look a little less than completely innocent. Even more significant though is the fact that Martin was at that time serving a suspension from school for possession of marijuana. I’m surprised that more hasn’t been made of that by Zimmerman’s defense because it would explain a lot. [/quote]
This was still apart of Zimmermans life in 2005 and 2006. Both charges delt with Violence and Domestic Abuse charges.
Trayvon was supsended from School and had not seen a court or police station. It was all delt with thru the school system not the Courts.
Does any of this have a bearing on that night…NOPE.
I see Trayvon as no more than a 17yr old. No angel and no demon.
I also Don’t see zimmerman as a Klansman or a guy patroling to kill someone.
Lets not make this into a He said she said thing. What happened betwen them two on that night had nothing to do with the weed residue found in Trayvons book bag. Or the police violence and Girlfriend troubles Zimmerman had in 2005 and 2006.
Its about that night. [/quote]
On the contrary. One week prior to the night in question Martin was caught with weed. That is quite relevant. It strongly suggests that Martin was a marijuana smoker. Which could explain a lot of things.
For example if I was 17 and I wanted to go burn one, I would use a legitimate reason to leave the house like going to 7/11 to get my brother some skittles as my way to get out of the house for a little while.
Trying to get one lit in the rain can be a little difficult. It would explain why he was loitering and speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious. It can also make you a little paranoid of Five O. Which would explain taking a closer look at someone sitting in a car.
Or if he was waiting to score that would explain his loitering in the rain. Speaking from personal experience it makes you look damned suspicious which can be stressful and cause paranoia. It could also explain approaching Zimmerman sitting in his car before he bolted. He might have thought that was his hook up, then when he saw it was Zimmerman he got scared.
Then there is the issue of Martin’s mental state being affected by withdrawal. Speaking from personal experience marijuana withdrawal causes two weeks of irritability and short temper. I would hate to go through that along pussy withdrawal because I was stuck with the hicks in the sticks a hundred miles away from my girlfriend in Miami!
Under those circumstances I think I could snap on some douche from neighborhood watch. Which could explain him getting into a fight with Zimmerman. [/quote]
I’m pretty sure they tested Martin and it came back negative.
Besides, it’s weed, not coke. I doubt it was a significant factor in all of this.[/quote]
Whether a drug test came back positive or negative doesn’t matter. Getting high is not a prerequisite to wait somewhere for the dopeman to come and bring you some shit.
It does not matter what drug is preferred there is only one reason why addicts use. It is because they cannot deal with their emotions. Weed is a tranquilizer. If a teenager from a broken home is self medicating with weed as a coping mechanism to deal with his anger and you take away the weed you still have a teen from a broken home with an anger problem. The only thing that has changed is you have taken away his coping mechanism. So now his anger can come out. [/quote]
Stop…lol.[/quote]
What’s so funny? Do you have education in the treatment of drug addiction? All addicts use because they don’t want to deal with their emotions and the use of drugs becomes their only coping mechanism for dealing with life. Ask any licensed substance abuse counselor and they will tell you the same thing.
[quote]otar wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Weed is not a tranquillizer.[/quote]
What is it then? It sure as hell isn’t a stimulant.
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]otar wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Weed is not a tranquillizer.[/quote]
What is it then? It sure as hell isn’t a stimulant. [/quote]
hahahahhaha, Not sure if you are serious about any of this but Excellent Derail if nothing else.
[quote]sam_sneed wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
Actually I haven’t done anything like that in years. So where did you smoke weed when you were a teenager? Were you one of those kids who had permissive parents who allowed it in the house or even smoked it with you? [/quote]
No, you weren’t off base on that part. I would leave the house and take a walk if I wanted to smoke that bad, but not unless I knew the neighborhood very well. There are so many other reasons why your conjecture was way out there:
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If he was high, he would’ve tested positive or someone would have smelt it on him. If not, his clothes his fingers.Your fingers will smell for a couple hours after you’ve smoked a joint.
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If he was waiting for the “dopeman”, he would’ve met him at the convenience store where people constantly come and go. I don’t think a dealer would want to be making sales in private gated communities.
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He doesn’t live in that area so I doubt he even knew where to buy pot or had a connection.
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They didn’t report that he had paraphernalia on him, so what was he going to smoke the pot in? No papers, no blunt, no pipe.
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I’ve abused both alcohol and pot and have even been to a few AA meetings. There is no way you can compare the withdrawal symptoms of pot to a true alcoholic. Withdrawal from alcohol has physical symptoms and can literally make you sick and even cause seizures. Your body becomes chemically dependent on the alcohol similar to a heroin addicts withdrawal. I’ve seen people go through this. Being a little edgy from not smoking pot doesn’t compare.
http://www.alcohol-drug-rehab-directory.com/alcohol.html
I think the kid was probably bored so he took a walk to yap on the phone with his girl and buy some snacks. He probably was in a bad mood and took exception to GZ harassing him so he kicked his ass. This is admittedly conjecture as well.
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So you can relate to popping out of the house to burn one and giving the parents a cover story.
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I guess you can’t relate to waiting for the dopeman. Back in the 80’s I would call my hookup and leave my number on his pager, he would call me back and tell me to meet him somewhere. I would get there on time and end up waiting for half an hour or more while getting curious looks from the person whose house we were parked in front of, or the neighbors. I wouldn’t have thought some would want to do that in one of the “copper canyon” areas of Detroit. But there you are. It happens.
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It ain’t that hard to find a hook up. It’s why “the geographical cure” doesn’t work.
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A) Besides skittles and Ice Tea 7/11 also sells Zig Zags, swishers and blunt wraps.
B) Zimmerman lost sight of him so he could have ditched it. -
Having been through both I can tell you pot withdrawal was not bad as alcohol withdrawal. I don’t need to read about it. But for two weeks it made me irritable and short tempered not my usual self. It wasn’t a good time for me to deal with douches. If I had encountered Zimmerman during that time I might have wanted to smack the shit out of him and that’s without being separated from my girlfriend which would have been the icing on the cake for me.
You are right it is all just conjecture. My guess then is that possibly Zimmerman is a bit of a douchebag and Martin wasn’t in the right frame of mind to deal with it well because of what he had going on in his life.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]otar wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]TigerTime wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]Sifu wrote:
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Weed is not a tranquillizer.[/quote]
What is it then? It sure as hell isn’t a stimulant. [/quote]
hahahahhaha, Not sure if you are serious about any of this but Excellent Derail if nothing else. [/quote]
Well it wasn’t my plan. I can’t even believe that this is debatable or arguable. It makes me hungry, sleepy, paranoid and I rediscovered my record collection. It is fairly well accepted that weed is a sedative. It may not make you nod out like Heroin but it’s effect sure is a lot closer to that than crack or meth. I’m done on this point.
Yeah, drugs get delivered to exclusive neighborhoods.
Real ones. Not townhomes that have a gate and are occupied by car salesmen.
[quote]four60 wrote:
[quote]cwill1973 wrote:
Weed is not a tranquillizer.[/quote]
What is it then? It sure as hell isn’t a stimulant. [/quote]
It is a magical plant that used to make Pink Floyd even more awesome than they normally are.