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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

That’s Your house. Unless you are doing this for your neighborhood, that isn’t much of a point. [/quote]

Around my house includes the street and other houses.[/quote]

And if the person you question is in the middle of the street and tells you none of your business, what do you do?
[/quote]

Pout.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Easrly last week, an 85-year-old woman was sexually assaulted and battered to death by a home invader who also shot her 90-year-old husband in the face with a BB gun. Nancy and Bob Strait, who had celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary in December, were discovered by their daughter at their home in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Mr Strait, who served in the 101st Airborne Division in World War II, suffered a broken jaw, broken ribs and severe bleeding. He is in a serious condition in a local hospital.

Today, police have arrested 20-year-old Tyrone Dale David Woodfork (pictured above) in connection with the case.

Unlike Mr. “white-hispanic” Zimmerman, Mr. Woodfork’s race is not mentioned anywhere in the article.

Read more: Brutal home invasion of Oklahoma couple ends their 65-year romance after first meeting on a blind date | Daily Mail Online

WHERE IS JESSE JACKSON? WHERE IS AL SHARPTON? WHERE IS THE MEDIA?

Why is this only to be found in an English paper?

Ask yourself: does our media have an agenda?[/quote]

I told you…not enough Black Panther for the good Reverends.

Oh and has anybody on that team come out and denounced the $10,000 bounty the Black Panthers have put on Zimmerman’s head?

What if the KKK did the same thing?

Think that might raise an eyebrow or two?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]
Trayvon had the right not to answer. Asking a question is not a display of power.

In about an hour I could follow some one up a sidewalk and in to a subway and say “Hey, what are you doing here?” and it would be weird considering the circumstance but it wouldn’t give me power over the guy at all. Nor would I be breaking any laws/infringing on any rights.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
WHERE IS JESSE JACKSON? WHERE IS AL SHARPTON?
[/quote]

They were released after questioning because they had solid alibis.

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:
but maybe it was his former OC judge dad with the close ties???[/quote]

Not sure, but I think that was debunked. It apparently started because some TV channel mis-identified someone.[/quote]

I actually am still little suspicious of that(because of the sources)…which is why I haven’t really focused it myself…BUT I have yet to find anything that debunks it.[/quote]

The Orlando Sentenal has a running “what is true and not true” series of articles.

http://www.morrisdailyherald.com/2012/03/28/rumors-in-trayvon-martin-case-abound-but-here-are-facts/a5m84t2/[/quote]

Ahh…thanks. I figured they would be all over the “dad being former judge” already. Guess we’ll have to wait and see.

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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know exactly what happened.
[/quote]

Then why have you been vilifying Zimmermans punk ass (your words)without knowing all the facts now?
[/quote]
I do find it humorous that as Trayvon begins to look like the aggressor, some posters are leaving witch hunts for “Let’s be sensible guys, we don’t have all the facts.”

No personal bias though, right?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know exactly what happened.
[/quote]

Then why have you been vilifying Zimmermans punk ass (your words)without knowing all the facts now?
[/quote]

I think we have enough facts for me to form my opinion of his character.

It would be MY opinion after all. I wasn’t aware I had to clear that by you.[/quote]
Wait, so now it is ok to judge character based on information unrelated to the case?

Martin isn’t exactly a peach.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

That’s Your house. Unless you are doing this for your neighborhood, that isn’t much of a point. [/quote]

Around my house includes the street and other houses.[/quote]

Yeah, and your “authority” doesn’t include any other property than your own unless your neighbors gave you permission to “defend” their houses against non-intruders.

I have great neighbors. Dude called me when I left my garage door up one night. THAT is being a good neighbor.

If he started questioning my friends when they visit, NO.[/quote]

I share property with one of them. And what I do doesn’t require the permission of my neighbors.[/quote]

?

I don’t know if you are just arguing just do it or what, but again, you do NOT have the right to restrain and question someone who is NOT on your property when they are doing nothing wrong but walking down a public street.

I hope you know this already.

Being a good neighbor is noticing that a strange man is looking into your neighbor’s window and climbing in so you call the police.

It is not about running up to people walking and questioning what they are doing there.[/quote]
Are you suggesting Zimmerman restrained Martin?

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[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Easrly last week, an 85-year-old woman was sexually assaulted and battered to death by a home invader who also shot her 90-year-old husband in the face with a BB gun. Nancy and Bob Strait, who had celebrated their 65th wedding anniversary in December, were discovered by their daughter at their home in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Mr Strait, who served in the 101st Airborne Division in World War II, suffered a broken jaw, broken ribs and severe bleeding. He is in a serious condition in a local hospital.

Today, police have arrested 20-year-old Tyrone Dale David Woodfork (pictured above) in connection with the case.

Unlike Mr. “white-hispanic” Zimmerman, Mr. Woodfork’s race is not mentioned anywhere in the article.

Read more: Brutal home invasion of Oklahoma couple ends their 65-year romance after first meeting on a blind date | Daily Mail Online

WHERE IS JESSE JACKSON? WHERE IS AL SHARPTON? WHERE IS THE MEDIA?

Why is this only to be found in an English paper?

Ask yourself: does our media have an agenda?[/quote]

â??There is another class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs â?? partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do do not want to lose their jobs.â??

â?? â?? Booker T. Washington

Edit:

That picture is talking about the murder of Channon Christian and her boyfriend Chris Newsome.

They were kidnapped by 5 black people and tortured for days. They finally cut Chris’ penis off and burned him alive before shooting him.

You can go read what they did to Channon, it is absolutely disgusting and will ruin your day.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
After reading the last few pages I’m just going to go off topic once:

You dudes can be apologetic about agreeing with me if you want but I’m right about a shit ton across the boards and you all fucking know it.

/hijack[/quote]

nope and so far you are one of the worst with “facts point to”. There are no facts yet.[/quote]
Yep and no facts except all the facts.[/quote]

How about you cite one “fact” then that has been proven besides a kid is dead, there was an altercation and you are a douche.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

That’s Your house. Unless you are doing this for your neighborhood, that isn’t much of a point. [/quote]

Around my house includes the street and other houses.[/quote]

Yeah, and your “authority” doesn’t include any other property than your own unless your neighbors gave you permission to “defend” their houses against non-intruders.

I have great neighbors. Dude called me when I left my garage door up one night. THAT is being a good neighbor.

If he started questioning my friends when they visit, NO.[/quote]

I share property with one of them. And what I do doesn’t require the permission of my neighbors.[/quote]

?

I don’t know if you are just arguing just do it or what, but again, you do NOT have the right to restrain and question someone who is NOT on your property when they are doing nothing wrong but walking down a public street.

I hope you know this already.

Being a good neighbor is noticing that a strange man is looking into your neighbor’s window and climbing in so you call the police.

It is not about running up to people walking and questioning what they are doing there.[/quote]

Who ever mentioned anything about restraining anyone? Do we know Zimmerman did that? No? then what are you talking about?

And it depends, in my situation walking up and asking “looking for somewhere or someone?” is a perfectly reasonable and neighborly thing to do.

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[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Maiden3.16 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
I don’t know exactly what happened.
[/quote]

Then why have you been vilifying Zimmermans punk ass (your words)without knowing all the facts now?
[/quote]

I think we have enough facts for me to form my opinion of his character.

It would be MY opinion after all. I wasn’t aware I had to clear that by you.[/quote]

Oh I forgot opinons go unchallenged in public forums.
[/quote]

LOL

What are you challenging? You are mad because I have an opinion different than your own? You serious?

Zimmerman got has ass whipped by a kid after running after him with a gun acting like a bad ass.

First. I would say the same about anyone who runs into a fight with no skill…ESPECIALLY if they carry a weapon. I am one of those who thinks it is usually the weaker guys mouthing off how “prepared” they are as far as weapons.

If you want to “challenge” that, go right ahead.

Just know I feel little reason to worry about it after this post.

I did want to explain why I think he was weak though.

Pasty out of shape guy chasing kids down in the rain like he was going to do something.

Maybe he should spend more time in the gym than sitting in cars at night following teenagers.

That might have kept him from needing to kill someone just to defend himself

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[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
After reading the last few pages I’m just going to go off topic once:

You dudes can be apologetic about agreeing with me if you want but I’m right about a shit ton across the boards and you all fucking know it.

/hijack[/quote]

nope and so far you are one of the worst with “facts point to”. There are no facts yet.[/quote]
Yep and no facts except all the facts.[/quote]

How about you cite one “fact” then that has been proven besides a kid is dead, there was an altercation and you are a douche.[/quote]

Ok, your butt is awfully hurt, Zimmerman was beaten, the DA didn’t see enough evidence to make an arrest and evidence supports Zimmermans version of events. And I am more handsome than you.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

Depends on the questions and how they are asked. Also, anyone can tell you to fuck off and mind your own business and if you don’t they may, under certain conditions, legally consider you a threat (if they notice the gun they probably will) and act accordingly. Walk up to woman in a parking garage at night to ask a question and see if you don’t get peppered sprayed…legally. I don’t get how everyone seems to think they have the right to play sheriff…is it carrying a gun that empowers them? [/quote]

You are making huge incorrect assumptions about my situation. There aren’t parking garages in 30 miles of where I live.

And no, they don’t have any duty to respond or answer in the same way they don’t have the right to not be asked.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

That’s Your house. Unless you are doing this for your neighborhood, that isn’t much of a point. [/quote]

Around my house includes the street and other houses.[/quote]

And if the person you question is in the middle of the street and tells you none of your business, what do you do?
[/quote]

Pout. [/quote]

Depends on what they were doing and how they answered. watch them or call the police if I thought it was the reasonable thing. But telling me to fuck off would probably make me more suspicious.

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[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Big_Boss wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]DoubleDuce wrote:

So is this about race or “authority”? If he had a white brother, do you have more right to champion this social outrage, or does he?

It is my understanding that a neighborhood watch guy has exactly 0 more power than a regular guy.[/quote]

If he has zero power, why is he questioning anyone? Trayvon deserves every right to defend himself against some jackass trying to restrain him for questioning if they have no power.[/quote]

Cause anyone can ask anyone questions.

I question anyone I see around my house that I don’t know and I always carry a gun when I do it too.[/quote]

DD…it’s been a while. There is nothing wrong with that. But where is the line drawn as far as your actions…IF the person is not committing a crime and/or threatening to harm you.

EDIT But as X pointed out that’s your home…so that does change dynamics of situation.[/quote]

I’ve even followed (in a car, not on foot) and called the cops on a guy. [/quote]

AGAIN…within your “authority.” However,there is still a line you didn’t cross…which you just highlighted. [/quote]

The guy was in a car though. Following someone on foot isn’t the line. I actually followed the guy to his house and gave the cops his description, tag number, and address.

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I also do wonder what Zimmerman’s next step was going to be in his own mind.

Let’s assume for an instant that Zimmerman’s absolute belief that this kid was a criminal and did not belong (as it sounds on those tape) is why he ran after him.

What was plan B?

After you run up to the criminal…with weapon…the next step was…?

Just a note…I don’t think for a second that this pasty guy ran after a “criminal” WITHOUT his gun ready to fire or with no intention of restraining the person.

If you do believe that…wow.

If he was trying to “deter” a criminal, simply following them in the car IN PLAIN SIGHT would be enough…but to chase?

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I also do wonder what Zimmerman’s next step was going to be in his own mind.

Let’s assume for an instant that Zimmerman’s absolute belief that this kid was a criminal and did not belong (as it sounds on those tape) is why he ran after him.

What was plan B?

After you run up to the criminal…with weapon…the next step was…?

Just a note…I don’t think for a second that this pasty guy ran after a “crminal” WITHOUT his gun ready to fire.

If you do believe that…wow.[/quote]

If your gun isn’t ready to fire, you have no business carrying one.

maybe to find out who he was, or keep track to tell police where he went? There are about a million possibilities.

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[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Testy1 wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:
After reading the last few pages I’m just going to go off topic once:

You dudes can be apologetic about agreeing with me if you want but I’m right about a shit ton across the boards and you all fucking know it.

/hijack[/quote]

nope and so far you are one of the worst with “facts point to”. There are no facts yet.[/quote]
Yep and no facts except all the facts.[/quote]

How about you cite one “fact” then that has been proven besides a kid is dead, there was an altercation and you are a douche.[/quote]

Ok, your butt is awfully hurt, Zimmerman was beaten, the DA didn’t see enough evidence to make an arrest and evidence supports Zimmermans version of events. And I am more handsome than you.
[/quote]

Not butthurt, irked that this shit keeps being portrayed as fact. Apparently you can’t differentiate between fact and blogs.

Zimmerman could have caused his own injuries, you don’t know why there wasn’t a case brought forth and the third is speculation until it is testimony.

Also, I wouldn’t want to be the handsomest man in the world if it included your personality.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:
I also do wonder what Zimmerman’s next step was going to be in his own mind.

Let’s assume for an instant that Zimmerman’s absolute belief that this kid was a criminal and did not belong (as it sounds on those tape) is why he ran after him.

What was plan B?

After you run up to the criminal…with weapon…the next step was…?

Just a note…I don’t think for a second that this pasty guy ran after a “crminal” WITHOUT his gun ready to fire.

If you do believe that…wow.[/quote]

Is it not possible he was only foot because he wanted to direct police to the correct location once they arrived? That he never intended to confront Trayvon at all?

And now you think Trayvon attacked a guy with his gun drawn? This isn’t Hollywood dude.

Keep calling him a “pasty” guy, your true colors are showing.