Black Teen Shot 2

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Dr.Matt581 wrote:

[quote]overstand wrote:

It’s used as an insult when someone tries to claim military experience. Sort of like when somebody claims to be a doctor when they are really only a dentist.[/quote]

Dentists are doctors, man. I assume you are referring to MD’s. Just because someone uses the title “Doctor” doesn’t mean that they are claiming to be an MD. A DDS is a relatively difficult degree to get, which is just one of the reasons individuals who obtain one are allowed to claim the title doctor.
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Dude, you are talking to someone who literally follows me around the forums with this…in every forum he posts in.

It isn’t like he will stop because of your correction. Overstand just has issues.

Now…back to the topic.
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He calls himself Overstand because to call himself Understand would mean that he actually has to do that in life.

lol
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[quote]Swolegasm wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Iron Dwarf wrote:
Suddenly Trayvon’s FB page is down.[/quote]
And do you see that as maybe a little suspicious considering the Martin family lawyer spin machine?[/quote]

Innocent until proven guilty eh HG?[/quote]
Care to explain how suspicion and guilt are one in the same?

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I am finding some misleading facts regarding Trayvon here: How big was he ?

Because I see pictures of some little kid and then read a report he was 6’4 and 200 pds.

Which is it?[/quote]

6’2".

People are saying he only weighed 140lbs, but that would make him emaciated.

He might’ve weighed 140 four years ago… when all the pictures his family submitted to the media were taken.

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I am finding some misleading facts regarding Trayvon here: How big was he ?

Because I see pictures of some little kid and then read a report he was 6’4 and 200 pds.

Which is it?[/quote]

The Black guy was large and a very fit football player. The pictures most widely circulated are dated.

The Hispanic guy was a big tub of goo of comparable height.

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You seemed to be making an issue about it not being in the news as if race alone was the issue…to which I just informed you of the other white on black crime in that same city that was NOT on the news…and that one lead to the firing of the previous police chief.[/quote]
I am pointing out that this case, and others like it such as the Duke case an the Tawana Brawley case, receive an inordinate amount of attention when compared to similar cases with the races reversed.

Call it what you want: the media playing on incendiary topics, successful propaganda by AS / JJ, a community drawing together moreso than other communities, whatever.

The point is that very similar circumstances occurred a few years ago and almost no one knew about it and the white community certainly didn’t react the same way. We weren’t having a national debate on the evil racist Roderick Scott. There is a discrepancy there that is so silly it is comical.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I am finding some misleading facts regarding Trayvon here: How big was he ?

Because I see pictures of some little kid and then read a report he was 6’4 and 200 pds.

Which is it?[/quote]

The Black guy was large and a very fit football player. The pictures most widely circulated are dated.

The Hispanic guy was a big tub of goo of comparable height.[/quote]

Ok. So does anyone have a recent photo?

[quote]TheSouthpaw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You seemed to be making an issue about it not being in the news as if race alone was the issue…to which I just informed you of the other white on black crime in that same city that was NOT on the news…and that one lead to the firing of the previous police chief.[/quote]
I am pointing out that this case, and others like it such as the Duke case an the Tawana Brawley case, receive an inordinate amount of attention when compared to similar cases with the races reversed.

Call it what you want: the media playing on incendiary topics, successful propaganda by AS / JJ, a community drawing together moreso than other communities, whatever.

The point is that very similar circumstances occurred a few years ago and almost no one knew about it and the white community certainly didn’t react the same way. We weren’t having a national debate on the evil racist Roderick Scott. There is a discrepancy there that is so silly it is comical. [/quote]
This is true too, there would’ve been a time when all the facts weren’t in and there is no reason why a debate shouldn’t have happened, other than a lack of media interest due to the race roles.

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also…lol at “opening unlocked cars looking for cigarettes”.

yeah, we call that “theft”.[/quote]
Yep, and the shooting should’ve been legally justified. We know this because we have all the facts on this case.

We still don’t have them all down in Florida, however.[/quote]

Hang on their HG, martain is innocent until proven guilty right? We don’t have much that is fact only Zimmerman’s words.

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I am finding some misleading facts regarding Trayvon here: How big was he ?

Because I see pictures of some little kid and then read a report he was 6’4 and 200 pds.

Which is it?[/quote]

The Black guy was large and a very fit football player. The pictures most widely circulated are dated.

The Hispanic guy was a big tub of goo of comparable height.[/quote]

Ok. So does anyone have a recent photo?[/quote]

Are you following the thread?

I posted one a page or two back of him sporting a gold grill. He’s got a tattoo of his mother’s name on his arm (wrist?), so it’s a safe bet that’s him.

Or are you looking for full body mandatories?

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:

[quote]FISCHER613 wrote:
I am finding some misleading facts regarding Trayvon here: How big was he ?

Because I see pictures of some little kid and then read a report he was 6’4 and 200 pds.

Which is it?[/quote]

The Black guy was large and a very fit football player. The pictures most widely circulated are dated.

The Hispanic guy was a big tub of goo of comparable height.[/quote]

Ok. So does anyone have a recent photo?

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I’ve seen it reported that Martin is 6’2-3. If GZ is that tall, he took some serious growth hormone since HS b/c he was about 5’5 when he graduated.

[quote]TheSouthpaw wrote:
The point is that very similar circumstances occurred a few years ago and almost no one knew about it and the white community certainly didn’t react the same way. We weren’t having a national debate on the evil racist Roderick Scott. There is a discrepancy there that is so silly it is comical. [/quote]

Edited to correct for facts:

For that matter, in Mississippi this past weekend: (1) one black male was shot by three black males and (1) one white male was shot by one black male who walked up to him and shot him at a house party. Both wholly seperate incidents. Facts clears as mud.

I am sure the the media and Rev. Al will be there any moment to start marches.

based off a dwarf and houston post a few pages back: Im curious, who here in a fight, with almost anyone of equal physical appearnce, regardless of race, would use deadly force or near deadly force?

I see a lot of street fights and a majority end with someone “trying” to kill someone, even if its a fight in mcdonalds. So Houston guy said something interesting and it makes me wonder because todays fighting isnt the same as it was even 15 years ago. Now everyone has seen a UFC, most people know an armbar or rear naked, mostly everyone scrounges for a weapon. So what would it be?

[quote]Swolegasm wrote:

[quote]HoustonGuy wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Also…lol at “opening unlocked cars looking for cigarettes”.

yeah, we call that “theft”.[/quote]
Yep, and the shooting should’ve been legally justified. We know this because we have all the facts on this case.

We still don’t have them all down in Florida, however.[/quote]

Hang on their HG, martain is innocent until proven guilty right? We don’t have much that is fact only Zimmerman’s words.[/quote]
Your point?

[quote]TheSouthpaw wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:
You seemed to be making an issue about it not being in the news as if race alone was the issue…to which I just informed you of the other white on black crime in that same city that was NOT on the news…and that one lead to the firing of the previous police chief.[/quote]
I am pointing out that this case, and others like it such as the Duke case an the Tawana Brawley case, receive an inordinate amount of attention when compared to similar cases with the races reversed.

Call it what you want: the media playing on incendiary topics, successful propaganda by AS / JJ, a community drawing together moreso than other communities, whatever.

The point is that very similar circumstances occurred a few years ago and almost no one knew about it and the white community certainly didn’t react the same way. We weren’t having a national debate on the evil racist Roderick Scott. There is a discrepancy there that is so silly it is comical. [/quote]

Uh…why would the white community react the same way unless there was a history of racial profiling causing more whites to die as a result?

[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
based off a dwarf and houston post a few pages back: Im curious, who here in a fight, with almost anyone of equal physical appearnce, regardless of race, would use deadly force or near deadly force?

I see a lot of street fights and a majority end with someone “trying” to kill someone, even if its a fight in mcdonalds. So Houston guy said something interesting and it makes me wonder because todays fighting isnt the same as it was even 15 years ago. Now everyone has seen a UFC, most people know an armbar or rear naked, mostly everyone scrounges for a weapon. So what would it be?[/quote]
Hold the context though. A mutual fight and being attacked are not one and the same.

Here we go again.

Just to add…I would assume the “white community” would think, “gee, if I don’t break into cars, I probably won’t get shot”…as opposed to the black community saying, “gee, if I walk outside with a hood on, someone may get scared and shoot me…for NOT doing any crime at all”.

If you can’t see the difference, what would it take for that to happen?

[quote]Professor X wrote:
Just to add…I would assume the “white community” would think, “gee, if I don’t break into cars, I probably won’t get shot”…as opposed to the black community saying, “gee, if I walk outside with a hood on, someone may get scared and shoot me…for NOT doing any crime at all”.

If you can’t see the difference, what would it take for that to happen?[/quote]
When the black community should be saying “Gee, if I respond to people I don’t like with violence, I might get shot.”

The “Who, me?” play at its best.

Just thought I’d throw out these statistics:

The leading cause of death (over half of all deaths) of black males, aged 15 - 24, is murder.

http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2006/BlackMales2006.pdf

94% of black murders were committed by other blacks.

There is an epidemic of murder in this country, but it isn’t white people doing it, and I sense some mis-directed anger going on.

[quote]Jewbacca wrote:
Just thought I’d throw out these statistics:

The leading cause of death (over half of all deaths) of black males, aged 15 - 24, is murder.

http://www.cdc.gov/men/lcod/2006/BlackMales2006.pdf

94% of black murders were committed by other blacks.

There is an epidemic of murder in this country, but it isn’t white people doing it, and I sense some mis-directed anger going on.[/quote]

I think I explained this already…unless you are just dismissing everything I wrote.

I capitalized ‘authority figures’ for a reason.

I don’t live in a low income neighborhood. My neighbors are black, Latino, white, Asian and who knows what else. In fact, it may be the most mixed “nice” neighborhood I’ve been in. My worries are not being gunned down in a gang fight. My worries are getting pulled over while driving through Westheimer after leaving the gym for driving while black…and everything that can lead to.