Yep, that’s what I mean. Our boys weren’t as racially sensitive as we moderns are, they were products of the limitations of their time, but they didn’t have your reptilian views. Your views are what they showed up on Omaha Beach to whoop and extinguish. And they did. God bless 'em.
Yes, it matters a great, great deal whether it is causal. This is why many people have hammered you repeatedly on it.
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Differences in dog breeds is due to domestication and selective breeding. Ie it is nurture not nature.
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Or that societies will build upon each other, and even if the number of unique instances decreases, the world will still be a better place.
And on the contrary, you fight an unwinnable battle that will inevitably lose to time. Much more miserable worldview imo.
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I disagree with this premise, on multiple fronts.
If you’ve defined it previously, it should be simple enough to copy-and-paste it here. So if you don’t mind…
@anon50325502 beat me to this one when he pointed out:
Gee, what’s so special about my dachshunds coat, long body, short legs, and narrow rib cage, all external appearances that makes me identify her as a dachshund? Why don’t I refer to dachshunds as long bodies? But wait, this brings in another dilemma and a bunch of unwieldy terms. Now we’ll have to go down the list and now refer to all dachshunds as long-haired long bodies, short-hared long bodies, and wire-haired long bodies. But wait, how are we now going to identify German Shepherds considering there are other dog breeds that have relatively similar structured bodies and coats?
Wait, this leads to all sorts of problems in identifying other animals/creatures as well. Why call a hammerhead shark a hammerhead shark? I mean, why should we name a shark simply because of the way it’s head is configured? Why is the shape of it’s head the most dominant characteristic in determining its breed?
How about we all just confuse the shit out of ourselves?
Skin is not the strongest determinant of race and there’s no strongest determinant of race for that matter. There races are as they are, and they’re different from one another in more consequential ways than simply skin color. I already mentioned hair, skin, brain, tendon, ligament, and other organ formation, amongst other characteristics.
I might have it wrong, but I THINK you imply there’s something incorrect with using the terms black, white, and Asian simply because we are using terms respecting how people appear. Of course we identify on appearance in the same way we identify different breeds of animals on appearance! When I see a shark, it’s a goddam shark because that’s the term we’ve established for sharks! If you don’t like the terms white, yellow, red, or black, you or anyone can use European, Aryan, Indian, African, Asian, Asiatic, Oriental, Jew, Middle Eastern, or whatever, most or all of which you likely find offensive, as if such non-expletive terms are like stones!
Or better yet, we can do away with all classifications of humans and other animals. We won’t identify anyone by any term because after all, terms can all of the sudden, in this nutjob world we live in today, out of the blue, become offensive to the tender feelings of grown men.
Anyone can feel free to call me an Ashkenazi, Sephardic (I’m both), Jew, Hebrew, or whatever other terms there are in the various languages for Jews. I frankly don’t give a rat’s ass.
I am a libertarian bordering on ancap. I truly believe in my heart of hearts that when one human has power over another they will abuse that power given time and opportunity. I believe this is an immutable character of human nature. So the idea would be to use the least amount of government necessary to accomplish society’s goals. A minarchy.
Thus I would advocate for individual sovereignty over the collective good as much as possible. Somewhere between the articles of confederation and our constitution as adopted.
Since this is a race thread these ideas about individual sovereignty come mostly from English common law, John Locke and the Founding Fathers… all white people.
What I am about to say is not intended to be disrespectful or belittling.
It is clear you and I do not mesh well when it comes to discussing matters such as this. So out of respect, and as a courtesy (as opposed to ignoring you), I’m letting you know I have decided not to engage further with you on this thread.
I look forward to having productive discussions with you on other topics.
OK, good idea.
That’s a fair point. Although Americans fought race-focused National Socialist Germany and its allies, such Americans were largely race-conscious or racist (whatever the heck term people like) and if I recall correctly couldn’t even break bread with their black colleagues.
If you continue to openly lie like this I’m not going to bother responding to you anymore
Domesticated dogs of every breed are the same species.
If humans of all ‘races’ are the same species, l would presume the comparison of breeds = races, to be offensive mostly from a negative correalation of relegating a group of people to an identity as an animal.
Also not on board with the idea that breeds come from nuture. A breeder is selecting biological traits and trying to reinforce their dominance to set type.
I’m sure the Japanese love to see their culture wiped off the face of the planet. All that
Personally I love many cultures and would hate to see them wiped off the planet.
The issue (for me) is not that the comparison is offensive, but rather that it is inapt (because as you note, breeding is a guided, intentional process).
I took @anon50325502’s use of the term nurture to mean ‘the opposite of nature’; ie, guided as opposed to unguided.
With the rate that cultures (on a large scale) change and merge, it’ll be hard to see a real change even year to year. I’m sure they’ll adapt. You underestimate mankind’s ability to change and persevere.
When you set different standards for different groups you reveal your bigotry.
No one said there is a “European race”. Europe comprises many races; Basques, Celts, Germanic, Slavs etc.
Fantasy. America was a fully segregated society at the time. And black, single parent rates were a fraction of what they are now.