[quote]hipsr4runnin wrote:
Ever been to Utah, Utah? No radicals there right? No one bending words of a book, trying to sell it to others. Caffeine isn’t a sin right? What about my NO Explode??
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I live in Utah…sure their are hard core mormons here. But they don’t kill you if you don’t want to be one. They don’t put a hit out on your life and your families life if you speak out in public against the LDS church.
Sorry for the FOX source, but this is what happens if you speak out in an Islamic country.
There are extremists in every religion to be sure. But the extremists in Christianity are not running countries.[/quote]
The extremists in Islam is in the range of 30-40% while the extremists in Christianity is around 1% or less. There is a big difference. The extremists in Islam are almost the majority.
I don’t think the nation was entirely shocked when we learned who did this.
If we can be honest, and we took a poll of which passengers you would be most concerned with on a flight, I doubt those goddam Norwegians would top the list.
Ok so killing is out but oppression is still prevalent… you neglected to dialogue all of points of Christianity that are almost exactly like Islam. So a few people, with to no power are extremists…There is still that in other religions. To just point the finger at one group of radicals does not justify the righteous counter reactions. It cracks me up that all the Hell Christians are the first ones that wanted death.
Turn thy cheek and love thy neighbor though prayed for the souls of the lost…There is no difference between the two group. Some of the actions, now at this point in time are louder, in a way. But no difference.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
If we can be honest, and we took a poll of which passengers you would be most concerned with on a flight, I doubt those goddam Norwegians would top the list.[/quote]
Thanks mate
Also: just to see what peeps think.
Islam uses extremists to carry out the dogmatic dictations of their holy figures. They use their extremists as a form of military with intelligence and so forth…What is the difference between that and what the US does? For god and country. We rely on the military to carry out our acts. We drone some villages, we sleep better that we are making a democratic difference over seas… They convert some kids who start a DIY project…big difference…
We too have a military system that carries out orders? They blew up some buildings, we invaded a country. They make threats against our leaders, we kill theirs. They kill a couple thousand, we imprison, torture and wipe out villages. People want to start drawing lines in the sand at some point?
Btw, I am not for or against either of this. I would still like to reference the main point: Maher is an idiot. His ideology, philosophy, (anti)theology is completely incorrect. So some of Islam got upset about the infidels and have been trying damn hard to “make things right” for what…the past hundred years? And why? Why did they turn against us? All of a sudden, since like what the '60s? Where are the terrorist attacks of the middle east that should be painted throughout American history books? What changed? We just assume they are like this and have always been this way? Really? Always at war?
We have been at war since we landed here. Hell before we landed hear, when we thought we landed somewhere else. Populations were eradicated. All under the Cross and the Christian/Catholic lord. Those extremists did it for thousands of years. This is modern. Its not old Islam its new, and yeah its dangerous. It is dangerous to give an uninformed, uneducated, very moldable group of people a type of false religion by way of word bending and propaganda and order them to carry out acts in the name of. It does not concern the entire population of believers.
30-40% are extremists?? We would have way more acts of violence. You cant even begin to compare what we have gone through since 2001 to what other countries see daily. 1st world problems. We have seen this before during the 20’s-40’s. Its nothing new, just our generation(s) is dealing with it. It has to do with ignorance and I think its ignorant to condemn an entire religion.
[quote]MaximusB wrote:
I don’t think the nation was entirely shocked when we learned who did this.
If we can be honest, and we took a poll of which passengers you would be most concerned with on a flight, I doubt those goddam Norwegians would top the list.
Let us not pretend we all live under rocks. [/quote]
This. Any fringe lunatic can kill in the name of any religion, and Christianity has certainly had its turn as a cause of bloodbaths, but there is only one religion threatening me when I go to work in New York City.
Put another way: the good Muslim down the street is not to be held responsible for the things that the extremists who share a God with him have done. However, if you took an opinion poll–attitudes toward dissent, violence, women, etc.–of every Christian on the planet and then of every Muslim on the planet, it would be the latter set of results, taken as a whole, that would be by far the most troubling. [And you’d find that the troubling Muslim opinions are much closer to seats of power in their respective countries than are the troubling Christian ones].
… A lot of this turned out to be bullshit–e.g., aluminum tubes…
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Ahh yes, ye ol’ bullshit accusation once again.
Sure thing.
Maybe if you’d tiptoed through the tulips of northern Iraq in the lat 1980’s you’d admit you were remiss with your inaccurate comment.
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What does the Kurdish Genocide have to do with the aluminum tubes canard?
You’ll notice that nowhere in my treatment of the Iraq War did I deny that Hussein was a mass murdering piece of trash or that he used chemical weapons on his own people. What I did say, though, was exactly accurate–the aluminum tubes nonsense was a deliberate misrepresentation, as was the Niger yellowcake bullshit. There is no amount of late-1980’s photography that reverses this.
Push: I made one reference and you concluded several more, you pushed my point forward. History is a dirty thing. Slavery is biblical so its pre-muslim as well. Just because I don’t quote all history doesn’t mean ignorance btw but I am glad someone is paying attention.
