[quote]thomas.galvin wrote:
Google Greg Valentino. He’s what you’re talking about.[/quote]
Or anyone who uses synthol for that matter…take a look, this^^ is actually a good post whether it was intended to be or not.
[quote]zamoney55 wrote:
For those who know what I am talking about, you probably already know you have this disorder.[/quote]
That’s a bit of a general statement. I “know what you’re talking about” (I know what bigorexia is, and I’m sure the majority of people here do too) but being a small female I certainly wouldn’t claim to have “this disorder”. And all those V-Diet and low carb and AD and whatever diet logs all point to massive amounts of people with bigorexia, do they? Seems more people are looking to lose weight rather than get bigger these days. You posted in the steroids forum about wanting to inject. Got some of that bigorexia, perhaps?
You’ll get better “research” done if you don’t start out by proclaiming that we have bigorexia and you will now conduct a survey, but rather provide a list of questions and/or statements for people to reflect upon, or at least start out by giving your opinion and telling us about anything in particular you want to know.
I’m not sure its probably healthy to be 300+ lbs at 10% bodyfat, the amount of food drugs and time needed to sustain that kind of lifestyle are pretty crazy.
I remember hearing most bodybuilders are pretty poor since they don’t make much money from competing and spend a lot of money on food and drugs.
I would think all ‘Extreme’ lifestyles have there risks. Whether it is professional sports and the injuries, extreme sports and the dangers ext. There is a risk in trying to be the best, but who wants to be mediocre?
[quote]shizen wrote:
I’m not sure its probably healthy to be 300+ lbs at 10% bodyfat, the amount of food drugs and time needed to sustain that kind of lifestyle are pretty crazy.
I remember hearing most bodybuilders are pretty poor since they don’t make much money from competing and spend a lot of money on food and drugs.
I would think all ‘Extreme’ lifestyles have there risks. Whether it is professional sports and the injuries, extreme sports and the dangers ext. There is a risk in trying to be the best, but who wants to be mediocre? [/quote]
How many people on the planet could get to 300+lbs at only 10% body fat? I think we know of just about all of them.
I just hate when people use the MOST extreme examples to describe an entire group of people.
Most of the bodybuilders who compete NPC never get close to 300lbs in contest shape yet they take it VERY seriously, much more-so than most of the people here.
You are right that there are risks in being the best at just about anything. The only people who seem unable to understand that are those who never have to worry about ever coming close.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
It implies a destruction of an individual’s life (the loss of a job, the loss of all relationships) all in favor of weight training. How many of those people do you really think exist?
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Exactly. Pick up a friend’s Abornmal Psych book and read the first chapter. You may think many “bigorexic’s” choices are eccentric, but it doesn’t mean they go through the same things that anorexics do (implied by calling it “reverse anorexia”). Sure, a BBer could have body dysmorphic disorder or bulimia, but those disorders are fine the way they are - no need for new terms.
No guys this is great. I am glad you are correcting me on this subject, for I am fairly new. Judging from my research I came to the conclusion that this mental illness goes a bit further then ruining lives. I think there are all stages of this illness, but we just do not realize it. This is great info guys; your point of views will be given full thought. Keep them coming�?�
Who chooses the distinction between:
initial dissatisfaction (I want to be bigger/stronger),
habit (I go to the gym regularly),
focused training (I have goal and follow a plan to achieve it),
lifestyle (I schedule my eating and workouts, and sometimes things conflict with them and I place my eating and workouts (i.e., health and goals) first, at least some of the time)
profession (i.e. body builders who look to compete and make money at this),
and bigorexia?
It takes sacrifice and focus to achieve something that others consider unnecessary. Must it necessarily include mental illness?
Oh, and zamoney55, if you are going to toss out a term in the guise of research, you best define that term in a particular way or your data is compromised at best. The alternative is to have your subjects define the term for you, which makes the study about how it is defined within a particular community. This, however, can be interesting in and of itself.
I don’t want to be big.
I want to be huge.
[quote]zamoney55 wrote:
No guys this is great. I am glad you are correcting me on this subject, for I am fairly new. Judging from my research I came to the conclusion that this mental illness goes a bit further then ruining lives. I think there are all stages of this illness, but we just do not realize it. This is great info guys; your point of views will be given full thought. Keep them coming�?� [/quote]
Stages of the illness?
If someone dedicates a large portion of their time to improving their golf game, are they golforexics?
What about folks who punish their bodies relentlessly to compete in a triathlon? Triatharexics?
Why the singling out of people who devote a large portion of their time to put on muscle?
Why the idiotic assumptions?
Like Tex AG said, you either need to define the term, or change the scope of your research to seeing how it is defined by different groups.
I think that the term you be would be best researching on would be body dismorphia. I get the feeling this is what you are aiming at.
[quote]Professor X wrote:
zamoney55 wrote:
No guys this is great. I am glad you are correcting me on this subject, for I am fairly new. Judging from my research I came to the conclusion that this mental illness goes a bit further then ruining lives. I think there are all stages of this illness, but we just do not realize it. This is great info guys; your point of views will be given full thought. Keep them coming�?�
Stages of the illness?[/quote]
Of course there are stages to this dreaded disease. 1. You’re a weenie. 2. You’re still a weenie 3. Weenie 4. You stop being a weenie and put some effort in your training and eat.
- you’re no cocky and think you know something, people even ask you if you work out. Obviously the disease is at an advanced stage.
- You’re no longer asked if you work out, you’re obviously big and strong. This is the terminal stage of not being a fag. You will never go back to faggy behavior again, no matter how much Journey or Celine Dion you listen to.
At this advanced stage you will need to regularly seek help from a priest, psychiatrist, and Oprah.
[quote]meangenes wrote:
I don’t want to be big.
I want to be huge.[/quote]
You better get professional help before this destroys your life and the lives of those you care about…or worse.
(digression: for the life of me, I can’t figure out what’s going on in your avatar, aside from the obvious. From the reaction of the man, it looks like the kid on bottom is hurt and the kid on top is cranking a hold on him and he’s rushing to his defense. But then the kid on bottom starts to get up immediately - not something I would expect from a kid who’s really hurt. Do you know anything about it?)
DB
The “author” of this “paper” should now be able to refute the label he has so generally put on people here.
There is no “rexia” in bodybuilding…
[quote]Professor X wrote:
zamoney55 wrote:
No guys this is great. I am glad you are correcting me on this subject, for I am fairly new. Judging from my research I came to the conclusion that this mental illness goes a bit further then ruining lives. I think there are all stages of this illness, but we just do not realize it. This is great info guys; your point of views will be given full thought. Keep them coming�?�
Stages of the illness?[/quote]
One of them includes shaving your head…what year did you suffer from this stage???
[quote]Gael wrote:
… Upwards of 10% of anorexics and bulimics die, …[/quote]
The rest are immortal. (j/k)
[quote]rainjack wrote:
If someone dedicates a large portion of their time to improving their golf game, are they golforexics?
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Why did you have to call me out like that?
[quote]Professor X wrote:
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How many people on the planet could get to 300+lbs at only 10% body fat? I think we know of just about all of them.
…[/quote]
There is a whole village of them in the Andes, unfortunately they eat anyone that gets near.
[quote]Sentoguy wrote:
<<< [conspiracy theory] Maybe they (the medical industry/drug companies) have some stake in people being sick and know that big, strong, healthy individuals won’t be coming to them as often. So they devise ways to try to convince the public to avoid such activities.[/conspiracy theory] 
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AHHHAA!!! Now we have arrived at the truth, generally anyway. The medical/drug INDUSTRY (and oh how industrious they are) will not be happy until we are all in line to be treated for SOMETHING no matter how many new and innovative “disorders”, diseases and conditions they have to concoct.
[quote]Zap Branigan wrote:
Gael wrote:
… Upwards of 10% of anorexics and bulimics die, …
The rest are immortal. (j/k)[/quote]
Brilliant!