Biggest Upset Ever... U.S.A Beats Spain 2-0!!

[quote]engerland66 wrote:
anonym wrote:
asusvenus wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
The US will not do well in the World Cup 2010. Soccer will not catch on in this country, the LA Galaxy figured this out after 250 million dollars spent to bring David Beckham here. Nothing changed. No one cared for longer than a day.

Yeah, that move was fucking stupid.

Beckham is too much of a limey queer to be accepted by American society. And his wife, while hot, comes off as an obnoxiously aloof bitch.

I LOL at the people who actually thought he was the ideal choice for changing soccer in America.

It obviously didn’t work, but he was the best choice for making soccer popular in America.

Great result against Spain.[/quote]

Nooooo Beckham was a terrible choice his style of play was never going to get someone who doesn’t have an interest in football to watch for more than about 5 mins.

I watched the second half and kept thinking, “when is Spain going to rack up like 3 goals in 5 minutes?” I thought the US played like garbage in the half I saw, but, the best team doesn’t always win. I’m still happy for the team though. USA USA USA!

Brazil just won.
So its set…

 USA VS BRAZIL, SUNDAY, 11:30 A.M,  CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!!!!

[quote]tom63 wrote:
BruceLeeFan wrote:
I have no idea why Americans widely regard football (soccer) as a pussy sport. Some of the worst injurys period have came from this sport not to mention some of the most skilled kickers in the world. I know American Football or fancy pants rugby to give it its real name has good kickers but football has some of the most skilled individuals in the world. Look up Ronaldo, Messi, Henry… There are many more, if the largest names you know are Beckham whilst he is a great player he’s very far from being the best in the world.

The majority of the world are very passionate about football and it really goes to show how big it is considering it is an international game which lets face it American Football isn’t outside of North America. Also the amount of money in the game is outstanding. Recently a player has moved clubs for Ã??Ã?£80m that’s $130mil.

So maybe there is more to this sport than you realise. Oh yeah also when you next call it a pussy sport look up the film green street starring elijah wood. It’s about football hooliganism. Or just type those last two words in on google or youtube. You will soon see how much of a pussy sport it really is.

Thankyou thankyou.

We call it a pussy sport for a few reasons. 1. If you play it in this country instead of football, the pussy label might apply. 2. the flopping around and pretending you were fouled. Only punters are allowed to do that or the place kicker in this country. And most football players will think they’re kind of like pussies. Might not be fair to say, but kickers are looked at differently.

  1. We don’t care. In this country soccer is considered so wonderful by people that a lot of regular joes get annoyed at. Mini van driving moms that think football is barbaric and soccer is so much more evolved. People who guys like me don’t think of as being sport’s fans.

I will agree you can get hurt in soccer. I will agree playing it might be fun. But i’s boring as piss to watch.

I will watch the following before soccer. 1. college football. 2. NFL. 3. Baseball. 4. Nascar 5. NBA 6. Tennis 7. Golf 8. old highlights of College or NFL. and in no particular order, women’s BB , lifting events on TV, Track and Field, poker tournaments, ice skating, gymnastics, other boring olympic sports, The Golden Girls, Chick Flicks, The Gilmore Girls, and old reruns of The Land Of The Lost.

Boring.[/quote]

I am pretty sure that if you went to the UK and went to a match live regardless of the level, you would be gripped by the passion of the fans and your opinion of the sport would change.

If you have never been to a match live in Spain, Italy, Brazil, Argentina or the UK then you have never watched a football match.

[quote]nomorewar wrote:
Brazil just won.
So its set…

 USA VS BRAZIL, SUNDAY, 11:30 A.M,  CHAMPIONSHIP GAME!!!!![/quote]

Maybe I will finally sit and watch an entire game of soccer?

Go USA!

That was an awesome game, the U.S. team played really good. In my opinion the U.S. team has a good chance in the finals.

Also I think that after 2009/2010 traditional football will become more popular accross the ocean in the United States :slight_smile:

[quote]TDub301 wrote:

But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time…[/quote]

Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.

He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.

Anyhow, great win, I watched all of it and was amazed at how well Howard played in goal. It is insane that we basically didn’t prevent them from playing “their game” at all and yet shut them out, and found 2 opportunities to score ourselves. If it is like that against Brazil I would expect to be blown away again, but who knows maybe back to back shockers =]

[quote]red04 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:

But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time

Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.

But if you think it’s popular because it’s easy, perhaps you should try playing with some people who know what they’re doing since “any brokeass” can kick a ball around. Go out and when you get pawned, which you will, at least don’t go back and get all spiteful and continue insulting the sport because you got owned. You don’t have to like it, but the sport deserves respect. At least respect it.

He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.

Anyhow, great win, I watched all of it and was amazed at how well Howard played in goal. It is insane that we basically didn’t prevent them from playing “their game” at all and yet shut them out, and found 2 opportunities to score ourselves. If it is like that against Brazil I would expect to be blown away again, but who knows maybe back to back shockers =]

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Exactly Football requires a lot of equipment that costs a lot of money. Soccer requires a ball.

[quote]krebcycle wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
krebcycle wrote:
to be honest I don’t care who likes a sport or not, just stop calling it soccer.

um, make me?

erm, no[/quote]

didnt think so.

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[quote]LiveFromThe781 wrote:
krebcycle wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
krebcycle wrote:
to be honest I don’t care who likes a sport or not, just stop calling it soccer.

um, make me?

erm, no

didnt think so.

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wow, is that the famous American sense of humour at work?

There is no such word as soccer!

[quote]red04 wrote:
It is insane that we basically didn’t prevent them from playing “their game” at all and yet shut them out, and found 2 opportunities to score ourselves.
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We did prevent them from playing their game. Spain thrives in the center of the pitch. We took that away from them and forced them to the outside. We forced them to try and score by crossing the ball and we bet that our center backs could beat them when they did that. Onyewu and Demerit did just that. All the corners Spain got were just set pieces with the same theme.

One problem I think Americans face is they don’t have any sports that are primarily defensive in nature. Futbol is first a defensive game. You have to not lose before you can win.

Also, futbol is more like a war than football or baseball or basketball. You’ve got to watch all 11 players to see what’s taking place on the battlefield. You’ve got to watch the entire field. Football and baseball and basketball condense and dumb down the action so that even women can watch the games and kinda understand what’s going on.

[quote]krebcycle wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
krebcycle wrote:
LiveFromThe781 wrote:
krebcycle wrote:
to be honest I don’t care who likes a sport or not, just stop calling it soccer.

um, make me?

erm, no

didnt think so.

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wow, is that the famous American sense of humour at work?[/quote]

no its a recession stupid, no one’s at work.

Come on America, let’s all like soccer now.

Yeah, I don’t think so.

[quote]red04 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:

But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time

Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.

But if you think it’s popular because it’s easy, perhaps you should try playing with some people who know what they’re doing since “any brokeass” can kick a ball around. Go out and when you get pawned, which you will, at least don’t go back and get all spiteful and continue insulting the sport because you got owned. You don’t have to like it, but the sport deserves respect. At least respect it.

He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.
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So can we produce some 40 times for any soccer players? Cuz I’m sure there are plenty who can run just as fast. And no it wasn’t a joke at all, they can run for 40 minutes. It’s not literally full speed the whole time, but they’re constantly moving and making at least short sprints if not long half-field runs regularly. The thing you’re not considering is the size difference. Those football players are bred to run for 15 seconds at a time or less (almost always less than that). So they are capable of running fast and maintaining their size while soccer players obviously don’t have as much mass, which helps them build the endurance to be able to do so. The skill players may be light, but 9 times out of 10, they’re still way more built than most soccer players, obviously in their upper body, since football obviously requires more upper body strength. I’ve played both, please don’t accuse me of being dumb unless you’re refering to that “brokeass” comment which I will admit I completely missed. Good point on that one.

GL U.S.A
It will be very tough for U.S to beat Brazil.It will be an interesting game.

[quote]TDub301 wrote:
red04 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:

But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time

Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.

But if you think it’s popular because it’s easy, perhaps you should try playing with some people who know what they’re doing since “any brokeass” can kick a ball around. Go out and when you get pawned, which you will, at least don’t go back and get all spiteful and continue insulting the sport because you got owned. You don’t have to like it, but the sport deserves respect. At least respect it.

He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.

So can we produce some 40 times for any soccer players? Cuz I’m sure there are plenty who can run just as fast. And no it wasn’t a joke at all, they can run for 40 minutes. It’s not literally full speed the whole time, but they’re constantly moving and making at least short sprints if not long half-field runs regularly. The thing you’re not considering is the size difference. Those football players are bred to run for 15 seconds at a time or less (almost always less than that). So they are capable of running fast and maintaining their size while soccer players obviously don’t have as much mass, which helps them build the endurance to be able to do so. The skill players may be light, but 9 times out of 10, they’re still way more built than most soccer players, obviously in their upper body, since football obviously requires more upper body strength. I’ve played both, please don’t accuse me of being dumb unless you’re refering to that “brokeass” comment which I will admit I completely missed. Good point on that one.[/quote]

Agreed, there are a number of players in Football that could outsprint a fair chunk of the American football players. David James who is a goal keeper went and trained with the Dolphins in his offseason as something to do and he was keeping up in all of the drills with the wide recievers. Bear in mind that the Goalkeeper position in football requires the least running.

[quote]malonetd wrote:
Come on America, let’s all like soccer now.

Yeah, I don’t think so.[/quote]

Not going to happen. Rest of the world uses the metric system, we use our own. Rest of the world plays one boring shitty sport, we made up our own. And after years of making up our own crap, we’re the only superpower in the world. I’d say we’re on the right course. F soccer.

[quote]khatari wrote:
GL U.S.A
It will be very tough for U.S to beat Brazil.It will be an interesting game.[/quote]

not as hard as it will be for most Americans to find Brazil on a map.

But wouldn’t it be that much greater if we got good at that too and beat everyone else at their own game just out of spite?

I’m not so sure I’d say we’re the ONLY superpower in the world, either…