[quote]TDub301 wrote:
But wouldn’t it be that much greater if we got good at that too and beat everyone else at their own game just out of spite?
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Not really. It’s like winning in cricket. Who gives a fuck, it’s cricket.
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I’m not so sure I’d say we’re the ONLY superpower in the world, either…[/quote]
Then you don’t know what you’re talking about.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
But wouldn’t it be that much greater if we got good at that too and beat everyone else at their own game just out of spite?
Not really. It’s like winning in cricket. Who gives a fuck, it’s cricket.
I’m not so sure I’d say we’re the ONLY superpower in the world, either…
Then you don’t know what you’re talking about.[/quote]
Now Mr Irish you have taken a step too far. I can just about let you get away with insulting association football but when you start denigrating Cricket a line has to be drawn.
Name another sport where you can legitimately say to your wife that you are popping off to the match and come back five days later. Name another sport that takes tea breaks. Name another sport where the short quick version still takes a full day to play. Cricket is the real sport that all other sports pale into insignificance alongside. A sport where honour and doing the right thing is still considered more important than winning or losing, a sport with 11 players on a team but 34 fielding positions, a sport where the greatest prize is a tiny trophy that were it not priceless would be worthless.
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
But wouldn’t it be that much greater if we got good at that too and beat everyone else at their own game just out of spite?
Not really. It’s like winning in cricket. Who gives a fuck, it’s cricket.
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Hell it’s probably better than winning at boxing, I can’t believe you’re a boxing fan and are calling out all Euro sports as stoopid and boringzz!! Cuz everyone knows any MMA guy in the WEC could murder the best boxer in the world. //sarcasm (but really sound that stupid) Dude I literally fell asleep when Klitschko beat Chagaev the other day.
And no, I’m not coming from a biased position as I played football and hockey in high school, not soccer. But damn, you all sound like a bunch of hypocritical morons. I mean, we like Bodybuilding, you know the world’s most obscure “sport”.
Or talk about boring, our national pastime is easily the most boring “sport” event ever. It’s everything that’s “wrong” with futbol and football. “The guys juice, play only lasts 10 secs with 2 minute breaks, there’s little to no collisions and none at life threateningzzz enough!!!”
[quote]Cockney Blue wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
red04 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time…
Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.
But if you think it’s popular because it’s easy, perhaps you should try playing with some people who know what they’re doing since “any brokeass” can kick a ball around. Go out and when you get pawned, which you will, at least don’t go back and get all spiteful and continue insulting the sport because you got owned. You don’t have to like it, but the sport deserves respect. At least respect it.
He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.
So can we produce some 40 times for any soccer players? Cuz I’m sure there are plenty who can run just as fast. And no it wasn’t a joke at all, they can run for 40 minutes. It’s not literally full speed the whole time, but they’re constantly moving and making at least short sprints if not long half-field runs regularly. The thing you’re not considering is the size difference. Those football players are bred to run for 15 seconds at a time or less (almost always less than that). So they are capable of running fast and maintaining their size while soccer players obviously don’t have as much mass, which helps them build the endurance to be able to do so. The skill players may be light, but 9 times out of 10, they’re still way more built than most soccer players, obviously in their upper body, since football obviously requires more upper body strength. I’ve played both, please don’t accuse me of being dumb unless you’re refering to that “brokeass” comment which I will admit I completely missed. Good point on that one.
Agreed, there are a number of players in Football that could outsprint a fair chunk of the American football players. David James who is a goal keeper went and trained with the Dolphins in his offseason as something to do and he was keeping up in all of the drills with the wide recievers. Bear in mind that the Goalkeeper position in football requires the least running.[/quote]
Do you realize how much more muscle and overall weight American football players carry vs soccer players? Do you also realize how much more physical American football is? Both delivering or receiving a hit is very draining on the body. Did you happen to know Jerry Rice used to run against race horses as a form of his training? You just cannot compare these two sports at all.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
MaximusB wrote:
Cockney Blue wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
red04 wrote:
TDub301 wrote:
But soccer has all that stuff, too, even the controlled collisions (to a lesser extent, obviously). There’s an immense amount of strategy, team play, and athleticism. There’s a lot more coordination involved because you are not carrying the ball in your hands, you have to keep it around your feet that don’t have an opposable thumb like your hands do. Also, I’m sure there are plenty of soccer players who are as fast as football players, except they can keep up the speed for 40 minutes, not just 10 seconds at a time…
Your first 2 sentences are fine, but after that not so much. Not only do I doubt ANYONE that plays International Football can sprint anywhere near as fast as the average skill position player(or most linebackers and edge linemen), but the second part of that bolded statement is a complete joke. I’m going to assume that you aren’t this dumb and just fell victim to rampant fanaticism towards your sport instead of thinking about how ridiculous that proposed athlete would actually be. The coordination part is probably debatable as well since you only covered handling the ball, which only 1 person at a time does in both games, while 10 others are doing other activities that require great coordination themselves.
But if you think it’s popular because it’s easy, perhaps you should try playing with some people who know what they’re doing since “any brokeass” can kick a ball around. Go out and when you get pawned, which you will, at least don’t go back and get all spiteful and continue insulting the sport because you got owned. You don’t have to like it, but the sport deserves respect. At least respect it.
He didn’t argue that it’s popular because it’s easy to play in the sense that it requires no skill(I don’t think so at least), but that the game is very easy to set up, which is the point of his comment about “any brokeass” kicking a ball around. It is unquestionably one of the cheapest sports to get into, which helps fuel it’s popularity by allowing more people(especially in impoverished countries) to experience and learn the game. American Football will never be as popular because funding a team is expensive, this says nothing about how “good” the sport itself is or how “easy” it is to be an athlete competing in it skill wise.
So can we produce some 40 times for any soccer players? Cuz I’m sure there are plenty who can run just as fast. And no it wasn’t a joke at all, they can run for 40 minutes. It’s not literally full speed the whole time, but they’re constantly moving and making at least short sprints if not long half-field runs regularly. The thing you’re not considering is the size difference. Those football players are bred to run for 15 seconds at a time or less (almost always less than that). So they are capable of running fast and maintaining their size while soccer players obviously don’t have as much mass, which helps them build the endurance to be able to do so. The skill players may be light, but 9 times out of 10, they’re still way more built than most soccer players, obviously in their upper body, since football obviously requires more upper body strength. I’ve played both, please don’t accuse me of being dumb unless you’re refering to that “brokeass” comment which I will admit I completely missed. Good point on that one.
Agreed, there are a number of players in Football that could outsprint a fair chunk of the American football players. David James who is a goal keeper went and trained with the Dolphins in his offseason as something to do and he was keeping up in all of the drills with the wide recievers. Bear in mind that the Goalkeeper position in football requires the least running.
Do you realize how much more muscle and overall weight American football players carry vs soccer players? Do you also realize how much more physical American football is? Both delivering or receiving a hit is very draining on the body. Did you happen to know Jerry Rice used to run against race horses as a form of his training? You just cannot compare these two sports at all.
No, of course he doesn’t understand. He’s a British guy living in Mexico and completely clueless about da USA except what’s he’s seen on TV. He’d last maybe all of 20 minutes at a typical American high school JV football practice before he’d walk off the field to go have afternoon tea.[/quote]
I see what happens every time the US plays Mexico at the LA Coliseum. If they win, they tear up the stadium and streets, if they lose they do it even worse. I HATE watching it, that is my alma mater and I love that stadium. Nothing like coming out of the tunnel with 95,000 people screaming their lungs out.
[quote]pushharder wrote:
We don’t want to be like the rest of the world. Maybe that’s why so much of the rest of the world wants to be like us. Now leave us alone or we’ll stick a pointy-shaped brown FOOTBALL up your ass.
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Now that’s my kind of dirty talk. I can’t wait for football season.
america > the rest of the world
[quote]daneq wrote:
Hell it’s probably better than winning at boxing, I can’t believe you’re a boxing fan and are calling out all Euro sports as stoopid and boringzz!! Cuz everyone knows any MMA guy in the WEC could murder the best boxer in the world. //sarcasm (but really sound that stupid) Dude I literally fell asleep when Klitschko beat Chagaev the other day.
And no, I’m not coming from a biased position as I played football and hockey in high school, not soccer. But damn, you all sound like a bunch of hypocritical morons. I mean, we like Bodybuilding, you know the world’s most obscure “sport”.
Or talk about boring, our national pastime is easily the most boring “sport” event ever. It’s everything that’s “wrong” with futbol and football. “The guys juice, play only lasts 10 secs with 2 minute breaks, there’s little to no collisions and none at life threateningzzz enough!!!”
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I don’t give two shits what your opinion is.
GoTZZ ittTTSZZZZ!!!11111???
[quote]malonetd wrote:
pushharder wrote:
We don’t want to be like the rest of the world. Maybe that’s why so much of the rest of the world wants to be like us. Now leave us alone or we’ll stick a pointy-shaped brown FOOTBALL up your ass.
Now that’s my kind of dirty talk. I can’t wait for football season.[/quote]
Amen. Giants are gonna kick some asses this year. Umenyiora and Tuck, both healthy on both ends of the line… good night.
I hope USA wins tomorrow so all you haters can get annoyed by all the press the U.S will receive. Believe me, Its gonna be a lot.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
I hope USA wins tomorrow so all you haters can get annoyed by all the press the U.S will receive. Believe me, Its gonna be a lot.[/quote]
And it’ll be forgotten by Monday.
It will never happen. I can appreciate that you cheer for the soccer team here, but they pose no serious competition in a World Cup tournament. Wait next summer and you will see. My Trojans are gonna kick ass this year…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
I hope USA wins tomorrow so all you haters can get annoyed by all the press the U.S will receive. Believe me, Its gonna be a lot.
And it’ll be forgotten by Monday.[/quote]
nope. Its gonna make front page news on all newspapers across America monday morning. SO, :P.
Well, it started good.
[quote]Eielson wrote:
Well, it started good.[/quote]
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shitiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt
fuck man!!! what the fuck!!! USA was up 2-0!!! but lost 3-2. Shit man this is the most crushing defeat ever. Damn I’m gonna need some good weed now.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
Eielson wrote:
Well, it started good.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shitiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt
fuck man!!! what the fuck!!! USA was up 2-0!!! but lost 3-2. Shit man this is the most crushing defeat ever. Damn I’m gonna need some good weed now.[/quote]
Relax, at least you aren’t South African…
[quote]FightinIrish26 wrote:
nomorewar wrote:
I hope USA wins tomorrow so all you haters can get annoyed by all the press the U.S will receive. Believe me, Its gonna be a lot.
And it’ll be forgotten by Monday.[/quote]
Hey, more importantly, the Phillies beat the Toronto today 5-4. That’s b-a-s-e-b-a-l-l.
[quote]nomorewar wrote:
Eielson wrote:
Well, it started good.
noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo shitiiiiiiiiiiittttttttttttt
fuck man!!! what the fuck!!! USA was up 2-0!!! but lost 3-2. Shit man this is the most crushing defeat ever. Damn I’m gonna need some good weed now.[/quote]
Oh, oh no! Look, there’s riots in the streets because they lost! Those players faces will shrouded in shame for all eternity! They’ll never be able to walk the streets in their hometown again! It’ll be on the front page of all the papers! The horror, the horror.
Wait a second…