For some reason I like this show to, some of the shit is funny. Got to agree here you play the game you’re going to get smoked by it.
The thing that bothers me most is when they ask winners for advice after the show is done on how to lose weight as if they’ve become a guru. All I want is a bit of honesty.
“Given your success, do you have any advice for those at home struggling with weight loss?”
“Well Barbara, the key is first to be arbitrarily picked for a television show. Leave all responsibilities and commitments behind you for 2 months. Then do exactly what you’re told for fear of being ostracized on national television. Eat what is prepared for and spoon fed to you. Then preach arrogantly about your success on The View until you are fat again in 5 months. Rinse and Repeat.”
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
The thing that bothers me most is when they ask winners for advice after the show is done on how to lose weight as if they’ve become a guru. All I want is a bit of honesty.
“Given your success, do you have any advice for those at home struggling with weight loss?”
“Well Barbara, the key is first to be arbitrarily picked for a television show. Leave all responsibilities and commitments behind you for 2 months. Then do exactly what you’re told for fear of being ostracized on national television. Eat what is prepared for and spoon fed to you. Then preach arrogantly about your success on The View until you are fat again in 5 months. Rinse and Repeat.”[/quote]
They prepare the majority of their own food … granted they are provided the food, but taught how to eat right (well right as in according the “experts” on the show) which is a HUUUUUGE improvement to how they were eating. There are some contestants who put weight back on, but there are far more that keep it off.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Okay so how does this happen that 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever weeks into this thing, that those folks are losing 10 and 15lbs a week? It can’t be all water weight. Wouldn’t they have lost he water weight in the first week?
It is just insane to lose 100lbs in 6 weeks.[/quote]
Nice bump.
I don’t think it’s absurd to lose 10 to 15 a week when you’re still well over 400 lbs. That being said, I think that there’s a lot that we aren’t shown about their caloric intake and assigned independent work outs – they really only show “last chance workouts” and weekly challenges, but I’m pretty sure that they give the contestants a caloric “burn” minimum to achieve everyday and give them sample workouts to reach said burn.
On a side note, have people noticed how sneaky the product plugs have become? [/quote]
Well I saw an episode where they were expected to burn 600 cals a day and they were only taking in 1200cals a day. That just seems INSANE!
I would have a headache and no energy and talk about pitching a bitch-fest, I may even kill someone under those circumstances.
It just seems crazy.
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IIRC it was a lot more than 600 calories per day. I want to say it was 3000, but that could be wrong too.
As for the large amounts of weight loss, people need to keep in mind that the contestants here have several advantages:
- No distractions (work, kids, cleaning the house etc.)
- they are only with people who have the same goal and when they are in pairs or teams, those people are counting on them. People are often less willing to let others down than they are willing to let themselves down.
- no access to junk food or other temptations
- constant guidance
A lot of people seem to complain about what the trainers do, or how they look. But the simple fact is, as people here have stated, the contestants lose weight which means the trainers are getting results.
[quote]lanchefan1 wrote:
For some reason I like this show to, some of the shit is funny. Got to agree here you play the game you’re going to get smoked by it.[/quote]
I like the show also. It is crazy how busy my gym is on Wednesday. At least it seems to get some folks moving.
In regards to the game part of it all, I think you would have to play the game. Don’t you? One bad week and you could be gone. I don’t know if I would want to pass on any advantage.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
[quote]MementoMori wrote:
The thing that bothers me most is when they ask winners for advice after the show is done on how to lose weight as if they’ve become a guru. All I want is a bit of honesty.
“Given your success, do you have any advice for those at home struggling with weight loss?”
“Well Barbara, the key is first to be arbitrarily picked for a television show. Leave all responsibilities and commitments behind you for 2 months. Then do exactly what you’re told for fear of being ostracized on national television. Eat what is prepared for and spoon fed to you. Then preach arrogantly about your success on The View until you are fat again in 5 months. Rinse and Repeat.”[/quote]
They prepare the majority of their own food … granted they are provided the food, but taught how to eat right (well right as in according the “experts” on the show) which is a HUUUUUGE improvement to how they were eating. There are some contestants who put weight back on, but there are far more that keep it off.[/quote]
I do think they cook their own food. And like you say Polo, the food is provided to them so they probably have all the best choices to choose from.
I would think the best advantage would be living at that ranch with no job or family to distract you. All day and everyday it would just be you and getting to focus on your goals. And I doubt they have chips and cookies around the ranch.
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]FutureGL wrote:
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
Okay so how does this happen that 4 or 5 or 6 or whatever weeks into this thing, that those folks are losing 10 and 15lbs a week? It can’t be all water weight. Wouldn’t they have lost he water weight in the first week?
It is just insane to lose 100lbs in 6 weeks.[/quote]
Nice bump.
I don’t think it’s absurd to lose 10 to 15 a week when you’re still well over 400 lbs. That being said, I think that there’s a lot that we aren’t shown about their caloric intake and assigned independent work outs – they really only show “last chance workouts” and weekly challenges, but I’m pretty sure that they give the contestants a caloric “burn” minimum to achieve everyday and give them sample workouts to reach said burn.
On a side note, have people noticed how sneaky the product plugs have become? [/quote]
Well I saw an episode where they were expected to burn 600 cals a day and they were only taking in 1200cals a day. That just seems INSANE!
I would have a headache and no energy and talk about pitching a bitch-fest, I may even kill someone under those circumstances.
It just seems crazy.
[/quote]
IIRC it was a lot more than 600 calories per day. I want to say it was 3000, but that could be wrong too.
As for the large amounts of weight loss, people need to keep in mind that the contestants here have several advantages:
- No distractions (work, kids, cleaning the house etc.)
- they are only with people who have the same goal and when they are in pairs or teams, those people are counting on them. People are often less willing to let others down than they are willing to let themselves down.
- no access to junk food or other temptations
- constant guidance
A lot of people seem to complain about what the trainers do, or how they look. But the simple fact is, as people here have stated, the contestants lose weight which means the trainers are getting results.[/quote]
I think you are right about the calories burned a day being crazy high. I think someone still had 600 calories left to burn and that was what stuck in my head.
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
I hope I didn’t come across as bashing the show. I like the show. I also think though that it is an ideal situation. Thinking about that now, maybe even that can show people they need to simplify and get focussed if they want to achieve their goals before it takes so long they lose their motivation.
It is amazing how these people look at the end of the season. It is also amazing to see these people working so hard and pushing through so much at such heavy weights. They look like they couldn’t walk to shop but would ride those scooter carts and yet they beat it out in the workouts.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
I hope I didn’t come across as bashing the show. I like the show. I also think though that it is an ideal situation. Thinking about that now, maybe even that can show people they need to simplify and get focussed if they want to achieve their goals before it takes so long they lose their motivation.
It is amazing how these people look at the end of the season. It is also amazing to see these people working so hard and pushing through so much at such heavy weights. They look like they couldn’t walk to shop but would ride those scooter carts and yet they beat it out in the workouts.
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That wasn’t directed at you or anyone in particular … Just some of the high and mighty comments on here are ridiculous (especially for the high levels of disdain on this site for obese people … fucking hypocrits) … but you made it clear you appprove of the show 
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Do the contestants maintain their weight loss though? I’d always gotten the impression that the contestants get home and don’t know how to keep the weight off since all they’d been taught was extreme amounts of exercise and very little food.
I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just curious.
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Do the contestants maintain their weight loss though? I’d always gotten the impression that the contestants get home and don’t know how to keep the weight off since all they’d been taught was extreme amounts of exercise and very little food.
I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just curious.
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The final weigh-in is held several (I think at least 8) weeks after all the contestants go home. So they are all doing it (successfully) at home for a while. Some have gained the weight back after since they lose the motivation, but I don’t think that can really be helped.
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Do the contestants maintain their weight loss though? I’d always gotten the impression that the contestants get home and don’t know how to keep the weight off since all they’d been taught was extreme amounts of exercise and very little food.
I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just curious.
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The majority of them do keep off a significant amount of weight.
Unfortunately I know that Erik guy from a couple of seasons go did gain back almost all his weight.
[quote]OctoberGirl wrote:
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Do the contestants maintain their weight loss though? I’d always gotten the impression that the contestants get home and don’t know how to keep the weight off since all they’d been taught was extreme amounts of exercise and very little food.
I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just curious.
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The majority of them do keep off a significant amount of weight.
Unfortunately I know that Erik guy from a couple of seasons go did gain back almost all his weight.
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Thanks, I guess that changes my views on the show!
EDIT: I mean now I don’t think the show is as bad as I thought it was.
[quote]OBoile wrote:
[quote]chimera182 wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Do the contestants maintain their weight loss though? I’d always gotten the impression that the contestants get home and don’t know how to keep the weight off since all they’d been taught was extreme amounts of exercise and very little food.
I’m not saying I’m right, I’m just curious.
[/quote]
The final weigh-in is held several (I think at least 8) weeks after all the contestants go home. So they are all doing it (successfully) at home for a while. Some have gained the weight back after since they lose the motivation, but I don’t think that can really be helped.[/quote]
Thanks for the info! I only watch the show when my girlfriend makes me so I don’t have much experience on it.
I know one of the ladies on the show this season very well. She eats about 1200 calories a day and is supposed to burn 6000. Most of those calories are from meat + veggies. She works out twice a day. Oh, and the “weekly” weigh ins are every 2-2.5 weeks, not every week. They just leave that little fact out, so when you see someone drop 14 lbs in a “week” its more like 2 weeks.
[quote]Vestiaz wrote:
I know one of the ladies on the show this season very well. She eats about 1200 calories a day and is supposed to burn 6000. Most of those calories are from meat + veggies. She works out twice a day. Oh, and the “weekly” weigh ins are every 2-2.5 weeks, not every week. They just leave that little fact out, so when you see someone drop 14 lbs in a “week” its more like 2 weeks.
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So do they have to keep working out twice a day after the show or is she still part of the show and trying to win? That just seems sooooo brutal.
But I guess if you want to change your life it doesn’t happen without some effort.
I have no idea how she did i just know she lost a ton of weight. I’ve only seen her once since she left for LA. She’s works out from 5-7 am and then for 2 hours in the late afternoon as well. She went from eating total fast food crap 24/7 to eating great. The money is a big motivator to keep pushing even if you feel like crap.
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Damn Polo, you always bring tears to my eyes with your literary skills. I can almost see you in front of a teleprompter adressing the nation.
[quote]3hitter wrote:
[quote]polo77j wrote:
To everyone who has a gripe about this show: I think you’re overlooking a few things. The majority, if not all, of the contestants on this show want to be of normal weight. They’ve stood out in crowds for the wrong reasons their whole lives and have been subject to ridicule and are now given a chance to acheive some sort of success in acheiving a goal.
They aren’t competitve strength athletes…shit most of them haven’t played sports. They’re being introduces (the term thrown into the deep end comes to mind) to exercises they never knew existed and taught about nutrition. The majority of them, once they are off the show, continue down the path towards benefitting their lives with exercises and nutrition and I’m sure more than a few have researched both those subjects for themselves.
It’s easy to look down on these people from the pedastal we’ve put ourselves on iin contempt and ridicule them, but we forget most of us were very skinny, or very fat, or very out of shape. We took the initiative to change that on our own, but we’re not normal. Not too long ago CT did a Body Transfomation experiment with some of the members here; this isn’t much different from this show.
For all of the threads ridiculing fat people that have been created by the members of this site there should be praise for something that has inspired obese people to make a difference and change their habits and live a more positive healthy life. Some of you really need to get off the internet and out of the gym and experience the real world.
Go be a trainer and look a 30 yr old woman who wants to lose 100 pounds and keep it off and make fun of her for it. I’ve sat on the other side of that desk and have seen those tears and for that I’m glad this show’s on. I hope it helps more people and inspires them to persue their own change.[/quote]
Damn Polo, you always bring tears to my eyes with your literary skills. I can almost see you in front of a teleprompter adressing the nation.:)[/quote]
Nah, I just write notes on my hand