Bigger Arms

Training Bodybuilding
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[quote]magnetnerd wrote:
BarneyFife wrote:
I am not saying your wrong, but I kinda disagree. Everyone here is talking about stabilizers, and big compound lifts. Lately there has been a lot of articles on that.

But let me ask you this-
If you cut out all three of your deltoid heads, would the posterior deltoid displace even half-as much water as your front deltoid?

I am not smoking something, its just an example to measure volume. Honestly though.

Your wrists- can you reverse wrist curl nearly as much as you can regular wrist curl?
Can you row as much as you can bench?
Preacher curls require very little in the stabilizer department, and they would help anyones arms grow.

Everyone is concentrating on everything but the arms. Would you win a benching contest by squating 3/4 of a ton? Yes squats and deadlifts and everything else are important, but maybe, just maybe, his stabilizers are just fine, and his arms do need some work.

You’re forgetting that the original poster has less than 13" arms.

…and the spelling/grammar skills of a child. A very small child…
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I think you’ll find English is not his first language.

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English is actually my first and only language. I agree with the compound excercise group now. I measure my FOREARMS, and they are 13.5 inches at their thickest. I guess that you all are probably right that it is his whole upper body that is lacking in strength.

My own experience has led me to disagree with the rows/chins/dips/benches are the guarenteed way for arm growth though. I can perform 10 perfect form chin-ups holding a 50 pound dumbell, at 190 in bodyweight. I haven’t really noticed it making a big difference in my arms though. I feel that sometimes you arms are just going to grow enough to get their part of the lift done. Look at it this way, when you row or bench, you dont truly move the arm through its entire range of motion. Isolation excersises can target those few inches that aren’t always covered with compound lifts.

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[quote]jsbrook wrote:
But hitting the compounds hard and heavy …[/quote]

You mean like D-Bol, right?

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
English is actually my first and only language. I agree with the compound excercise group now. I measure my FOREARMS, and they are 13.5 inches at their thickest. I guess that you all are probably right that it is his whole upper body that is lacking in strength.

My own experience has led me to disagree with the rows/chins/dips/benches are the guarenteed way for arm growth though. I can perform 10 perfect form chin-ups holding a 50 pound dumbell, at 190 in bodyweight. I haven’t really noticed it making a big difference in my arms though. I feel that sometimes you arms are just going to grow enough to get their part of the lift done. Look at it this way, when you row or bench, you dont truly move the arm through its entire range of motion. Isolation excersises can target those few inches that aren’t always covered with compound lifts. [/quote]

While that is true, with 12.38inch arms, the boy has a lot of all over growing to do. It doesn’t sound like a case of just needing an extra inch.

Actually, I don’t think 12.38inches qualifies as arms. I think this guy has wrists that extend all the way up to his shoulders.

EDIT - Something that hasn’t been covered. How tall are you? 83 kilos isn’t very heavy to begin with, but if you are 6’6" tall, then your arms are probably proportionate, and you would have to bulk big time to see any difference.

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Age:18
wight:83
hight:173ben lifting for 9 to 7 mounths

Squats: 70kilgs to 80 (4 reps - 6 to 8 sets)Im not playin squats an heavy leg wights cause it’s gitting bigger mix muscle an mass. My whole wight is in my legs an but. My legs are the biggest part in my body.
bench: 70 kigls
Dips:220 kilgs I do it with the michine just can’t do it withought the machine I can only do three to 4 sets only.

I do dead lifts with the machine I dont know whats it name but din’t do the reall dead left your talkin about before. O tried it last week could do about 60 to 50 kilgs.

I don’t do chins. I always done it with the machine ( arent chens an ex for back ???

Chins for back and dips for back and triceps right??

I train bicep’s twice a week start with stright bar 4 reps first. I warm up with the first rep, second rep 15 kilgs I didn’t count the bar weight, 3d set 20 kigs for 6 sets, last rep 21 kilgs for 6 sets and sometimes 25 for only 4 sets then continue with light weight. My second exc is dumbbels ( heaviest weight 17.5 and do the same reps and sets as the stright bar but I change and do less weights more when I can’t do full 6 or 8 sets thats why. My last excer is hammer curls. I change my excer every week but stright bar and dumbbels are basic.

I train bicep’s stright after chest twice week and tricep’s after back excer cause my tricep’s get so fuckin hard when I do chest therefore I can’t train my tri.

I know my english suck sorry it’s my second language.

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Iv’e ben doin lift weighting for 8 to 9 moutns and Im bulking now just gained 6 klgs in 2 mounths but most of it is going to my legs and butt cause im not doing cardio maube.

eat 6 meals
workout 5 times a week I work my chest back and bicep’s twice.

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[quote]alablangy wrote:
Iv’e ben doin lift weighting for 8 to 9 moutns and Im bulking now just gained 6 klgs in 2 mounths but most of it is going to my legs and butt cause im not doing cardio maube.

eat 6 meals
workout 5 times a week I work my chest back and bicep’s twice.[/quote]

You basicly do all you’r lifts on machines and you’r wondering why you’r arms won’t grow?

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[quote]HvRv wrote:
You basicly do all you’r lifts on machines and you’r wondering why you’r arms won’t grow? [/quote]

yeah… . really Id just advise that he eat and look at getting stronger… . fuck rep set perscriptions just take the core lifts and get stronger in them… . not being able to do any dips without assistance is pretty piss poor. …

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Ok, so you’re 5’8" and weigh 183lbs. You don’t squat or bench bodyweight and do deadlifts and chins on machines. I think we are starting to get to the bottom of your problems. This is what I want you to do.

Go to Vroom’s “Are you a Beginner?” thread. Read it. Read it again. Then I want you to pick a program from that thread and follow it. Then pick another and follow it.

Yes, chins work your back and bench works your chest, but they both work your arms as well. Work up to heavy weights on both of these exercises over time and your arms HAVE to grow, just like the rest of you. Don’t use machines. Use free weights.

What you need is basic mass training. Your arms will grow as you get stronger. Follow this advice for twelve months and let us know how you are doing.

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[quote]Massif wrote:
jsbrook wrote:
But hitting the compounds hard and heavy …

You mean like D-Bol, right?
[/quote]

hehe. sure

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How do you even do deadlifts on a machine? I didn’t know that existed.

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get a SOYG package delivered to your home. That is THE best money I ever spent. I can go to my basement whenever I feel like and lift. Not that I focus on arms, but mine are growing like weeds. That is from the pullups and benching that I do, as well as the variants that train the arms for powerlifts. Power cleans aren’t too shabby for arms and shoulders either. Do several sets of those and check out the shakes you get in your arms. They will grow.

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I should design the deadlift machine. I will consist of a barbell with a logo on it. A placard will be attached with a diagram of muscles targeted. Then I’ll attach the barbell to some shitty pulley contraption with weight plates and a pin, with cables leading out to the bar. It will suck, but at least the logo will be kinda cool. I’ll sell it for $40,875 and nobody will understand it’s workings. Genius!

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
English is actually my first and only language. I agree with the compound excercise group now. I measure my FOREARMS, and they are 13.5 inches at their thickest. I guess that you all are probably right that it is his whole upper body that is lacking in strength.

My own experience has led me to disagree with the rows/chins/dips/benches are the guarenteed way for arm growth though. I can perform 10 perfect form chin-ups holding a 50 pound dumbell, at 190 in bodyweight. I haven’t really noticed it making a big difference in my arms though. I feel that sometimes you arms are just going to grow enough to get their part of the lift done. Look at it this way, when you row or bench, you dont truly move the arm through its entire range of motion. Isolation excersises can target those few inches that aren’t always covered with compound lifts. [/quote]

I agree.

Sort of though. My triceps seemed to get built by dips and push ups and heavy benching. Biceps on the other hand, most of my gains unfortonately came from doing wussy ass dumbbell curls with light weights.

I’ve done both the chin ups and 120lb curls and got mostly the strength from those. I actua;;y buled up the biceps by starting with a 30 lb dumbbell and stripping it to 5 lbs doing dundreds of reps. I also used a complete 1 arm preacher curl type exercise.

So again whatever works for you. Tricep isolations do nothing for me. Tricep compounds work quite well though. I also have very good bicep genes though. whatever the case, I say they can be built both ways depending on the indivdual. To each his own, I guess.

Peace

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
swivel wrote:
dude… the basics being your body won’t allow growth if you have strength imbalances/weak stabilizers. this means you can do curls till the cows come home but your bi’s ain’t gonna grow unitl you find the weaknesses in your legs, core, and back and strengthen them.

what’s your squat/dl/pullup strength like ?
and why didn’t you answer any of the questions from your other thread ?

did you even read the article posted ?

all the answers you need have already been posted over there.

I am not saying your wrong, but I kinda disagree. Everyone here is talking about stabilizers, and big compound lifts. Lately there has been a lot of articles on that.

But let me ask you this-
If you cut out all three of your deltoid heads, would the posterior deltoid displace even half-as much water as your front deltoid?

I am not smoking something, its just an example to measure volume. Honestly though.

Your wrists- can you reverse wrist curl nearly as much as you can regular wrist curl?
Can you row as much as you can bench?
Preacher curls require very little in the stabilizer department, and they would help anyones arms grow.

Everyone is concentrating on everything but the arms. Would you win a benching contest by squating 3/4 of a ton? Yes squats and deadlifts and everything else are important, but maybe, just maybe, his stabilizers are just fine, and his arms do need some work.[/quote]

Historically the strongest guys in the world also the biggest guys, could squat a lot of weight. Read super squats by Randall J Strossen and you will get a history lesson on some huge mother fuckers along with why those “unrelated” lifts build up the arms. I’m not being an ass here and I’m not in total disagreement with your above comments, but usually begineers or weak and small people have not built a foundation and they are already trying to put the finishing work on the house.

Ever wonder why your typical “natural” bodybuilder today is smaller than the strongmen/bodybuilders of 70 to 100 years ago? Those guys squated and used huge amounts of weights in the basics and they looked much bigger than at least 90% of todays gym rats.

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Anyone every tried clean curls with a thick bar? These will put inches on your arms, be warned though if you have a weak back, the true reason most people have small biceps, that weak back will probably get injured. Try the program Alwyn Cosgrove wrote a few months ago for bigger arms. I bet that will help.

Other wise I’d say bring your squat and deadlift up to double body weight and you’ll see results. Couple that with some bent over rows, I don’t see anyone who can do a body weight bent over row and double bodyweight squat and deadlift with small arms.

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[quote]BarneyFife wrote:
English is actually my first and only language. [/quote]

Was talking about the guy who made the post not you.

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Doing incline curls, wave load, each time you work your biceps.

ex.
5 total sets
1x3
1x5
1x8
1x5
1x3

and there’s always weighted dips and weighted wide grip pull-ups.

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ok ive been flamed in all directions and im 18. in 2 weeks ive got about a 1/2 inch on my arms by doing 100’s that is the most exhausting workout for your arms.
if you havent heard of it hear it is:
curls 100x1
flys 100x1
bench 100x1

every time you rest rest for the amout of reps you have in seconds this is sure to get your arms big and sore when you get to your falure point go down by 5lbs and falure is about 5 reps after you think your arms are going to fall off

oh ive been told a chicken diet
this diet includes 1 whole already cooked chicken from your local grociery store and a gallon of milk have at it i through up my first time just space it out over an hour or so

oh im not an expert just a well flamed guy with new knowledge

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[quote]mdragon wrote:

Other wise I’d say bring your squat and deadlift up to double body weight and you’ll see results. [/quote]

that’s money baby ! so money .