Big Deal About CrossFit?

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]eddiek098 wrote:
Its all about the $$$, the fact that it has a certification makes me sick

…along with the points in this vid

Does RKC make you sick, How about the AKC certification, how about the Westside certs, or the USAW certs, or the Rippetoe Barbell cert. It is crazy that these fuckers want to make money off of shit that people WANT to pay for. I fucking hate capitalism. Sickening.

That is why I use this site, they are not in it for the money. T-Nation has no interest in Profit. That is why they have been around for so long: they hate money. I guess you do too.[/quote]

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Demonstrating fitness is not a sport.

And as tough as Crossfit workouts might be, they are not tougher than a wrestling practice. Try what Jim Ryun would do, in HS: 40 400 meters (a total of 10 miles) in a single workout.

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[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Demonstrating fitness is not a sport.

And as tough as Crossfit workouts might be, they are not tougher than a wrestling practice. Try what Jim Ryun would do, in HS: 40 400 meters (a total of 10 miles) in a single workout. [/quote]

I am starting to think it is pointless bantering with you. How about this: all wrestlers are better than all people who do CrossFit. They work harder, and are alot tougher, and they are real athletes since they do not demonstrate fitness when they wrestle.

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]zecarlo wrote:
Demonstrating fitness is not a sport.

And as tough as Crossfit workouts might be, they are not tougher than a wrestling practice. Try what Jim Ryun would do, in HS: 40 400 meters (a total of 10 miles) in a single workout. [/quote]

I am starting to think it is pointless bantering with you. How about this: all wrestlers are better than all people who do CrossFit. They work harder, and are alot tougher, and they are real athletes since they do not demonstrate fitness when they wrestle.[/quote]

Agree on all points except one: wrestlers do demonstrate fitness but they demonstrate it within the context of an actual sport.

And also agree with Irish.

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I’ve seen a few crossfit promotionals and T-Shirts with the slogan “The sport of fitness has arrived.” that’s kinda lame IMO

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I guess he is no longer an athlete.

I am sure you have never heard of Chris Spealler. He is a total pansy.

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If a person or athlete could go out there and absolutely dominate the Crossfit Games why WOULDN’T they?

$250 grand??? That’s enough money to get almost any athlete (especially Olympic athletes because they don’t make the money that NFl and NBA guys make) out there.

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troll

dude, stick to your amature boxing…

its guys like fighting irish that are at best average athletes that poke fun at crossfit athletes… bet my house a ton of crossfit girls can lift more than you and can out pullup you, and do moe handstand pushups than you…

stick to your boxing…

why dont you give us all a report on your last fight, your boxing record, and your sporting background? you making fun of the crossfit people… how good are you???

this oughta be good!!!

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i just knew you wouldnt post your athletic background…

so when your done making fun of the crossfit workout names, try the one called “fran”… bet my house you cant post a better time than a lot of the women crossfitters…

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^^why would you expect someone who doest train crossfit to be better at crossfit than crossfitters? Your arguments are very flawed.

That would be like telling crossfit people who don’t train boxing to out box fighting Irish (assuming he boxes)… It’s just not going to happen.

Apples to oranges my man… Apples to oranges.

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fightingirish is saying crossfit sucks and is gay and all…

here you go fightingirish.

you ought to be able to do double what a crossfit person can do… if they are gay and their workouts sucks… here’s a girl doing 39 pullups…

i imagine you will double this very ez cause crossfit sucks and its gay…

( bet my house you cant do half of what she did) STRONG GIRL DOES PULL UPS (39) - YouTube

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bottom line fightingirish, dont make fun of anyones training…they are all out there trying to get fitter, faster and stronger…

its not good to open your mouth the way you do, all we gotta do is look at your personal blog and, well, the tables can be turned… big time…

personally, i am not a crossfitter like you think… i’m a troll… remember you called me one…

i race bicycles at the pro level… years back i was a 4:03 miler…

dont make fun of anybody… there’s a million athletes better than you are…

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[quote]spk wrote:
bottom line fightingirish, dont make fun of anyones training…
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^^This

and then in the same post this^^

oh the irony.

You’re comparing two different training styles and philosophies… do you know this? You’re comparing, i’ll say it again, an “apple” to an “orange.”

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Irish: over exaggerations that they are all assholes, that clearly cannot be true because you do not know or have met everyone who crossfits. If it is your experience that the people you have met, ie argue with online, are asshole that also crossfit well thats because most people come off as an asshole online.

Also, if anything significantly impacts a persons life that person will hold that thing to a high standard. If you are saved by jesus you will defend christianity and hold it to the highest standards. If you think pepsi is the shit you will do the same. Thats basically what “some” people who crossfit have experienced. For you to go around and say “youre all a bunch of jackoffs and your training blows” is childish and shallow. Youre picking on people online and ridiculing their beliefs and opinions. Nothing on tv?

Crossfit-lover-person: stop defending it so badly. The dude isnt going to change. No one you flat out argue with, especially online is going to “convert” just let it go and find something else to do with your time.

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I dont understand crossfit at all, can someone in the know tell me what benefits you get from doing cardio rows, followed up with single leg squat and finnish off with max rep cleans?

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that’s the point right there Florelius: they cannot. Except to say that it will make them the “fittest” athletes and people on the planet. Yet know one has been able to define exactly what “FIT” constitutes other than it is NOT OLYMPIC/ELITE level SPORT !

Take into account that there are 270 (yikes) registered Kenyans who can run a marathon time of 2:15 or better.
Yet appearantly they are not “elite fitness” athletes because they do not have a good “fran” time…

See where I am going with this ? ? ?

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[quote]florelius wrote:
I dont understand crossfit at all, can someone in the know tell me what benefits you get from doing cardio rows, followed up with single leg squat and finnish off with max rep cleans? [/quote]

At a CrossFit competition it is no longer about benefit. It is a test of work capacity and overall fitness. You have to be a very well rounded athlete to do a workout like that in the first place, but doing it in a short amount of time is what makes it extremely impressive. To me at least.

The arguments against CrossFit will always exist because of the frustration of people within themselves. It is hard for people to appreciate athletic endeavors that they have never tried, or would never be willing to try. I think long distance running is boring and the top athletes look like walking death.

This has no bearing on what other people think though. I have tried long distance running (long for me anyway). I know how hard it is for me. That is why I don’t do/like it, but I have respect for runners, just like I do for powerlifters.

The thing that bothers me about the people on thes boards is the lack of respect for athletes in their chosen sport. CrossFitters are generally not better than anyone else, at anything but CrossFit. CrossFit is a sport, activity, training program, brand, etc. Being a brand is what people dislike the most about CrossFit.

They think CrossFit is trying to pretend they invented circuits, and metabolic conditioning. The fact is, people who are ignorant to the history of Strength athletics, and new to exercise are the ones who swear that everything hard and fast is CrossFit, and that CrossFit is the best way for everyone to train.

It is out of ignorance that most people say these things. For some it is arrogance, but that exists in all sports.

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They think CrossFit is trying to pretend they invented circuits, and metabolic conditioning. The fact is, people who are ignorant to the history of Strength athletics, and new to exercise are the ones who swear that everything hard and fast is CrossFit, and that CrossFit is the best way for everyone to train.

Thank you Fatty. This is one of your statements that I completely agree with, for what it is worth.

It is the participants religious fervor like those newborn born again christian shits that gets my

inner Satan going ; ) I have had more than enough confrontations with them while working with elite athletes

who tell us that said elite athlete would be SO SO much better if they incorporated crossfit into there

training regime…yeah, palm to face. I have said my final piece so peace out all . . .

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[quote]fattymcfatso wrote:

[quote]florelius wrote:
I dont understand crossfit at all, can someone in the know tell me what benefits you get from doing cardio rows, followed up with single leg squat and finnish off with max rep cleans? [/quote]

At a CrossFit competition it is no longer about benefit. It is a test of work capacity and overall fitness. You have to be a very well rounded athlete to do a workout like that in the first place, but doing it in a short amount of time is what makes it extremely impressive. To me at least.

The arguments against CrossFit will always exist because of the frustration of people within themselves. It is hard for people to appreciate athletic endeavors that they have never tried, or would never be willing to try. I think long distance running is boring and the top athletes look like walking death.

This has no bearing on what other people think though. I have tried long distance running (long for me anyway). I know how hard it is for me. That is why I don’t do/like it, but I have respect for runners, just like I do for powerlifters.

The thing that bothers me about the people on thes boards is the lack of respect for athletes in their chosen sport. CrossFitters are generally not better than anyone else, at anything but CrossFit. CrossFit is a sport, activity, training program, brand, etc. Being a brand is what people dislike the most about CrossFit.

They think CrossFit is trying to pretend they invented circuits, and metabolic conditioning. The fact is, people who are ignorant to the history of Strength athletics, and new to exercise are the ones who swear that everything hard and fast is CrossFit, and that CrossFit is the best way for everyone to train.

It is out of ignorance that most people say these things. For some it is arrogance, but that exists in all sports.[/quote]

My goal was not to be disrespectfull, but to understand the benefits of doing strenght and conditioning togheter instead of doing it apart as more traditional type of training modalitys do. Just wanted to say that.

I agree that long distance running is boring as fuck, well for me any form of slow pace cardio sucks, I rather go play soccer with my friends or similar than be stuck on a treadmill or on the road in a pair of jogging shoes. I like hikes and crosscountry skiing though.

And I agree that the crossfits athletes are probably good at crossfit and many of them are probably stronger and in better shape than I will ever be.

I also agree that people are probably put off by that it is a brand or gimmicky or trendy if you will, but what isnt gimmicky or trendy in todays fitness world, even 5/3/1 wich is a training program I love is at the moment trendy within the strenght community and I understand does who joke with us 5/3/1 “fans” ( think about that daraz guy, hes spot on with hes mockery of all the brand PL programs ), It does not however make 5/3/1, sheiko or crossfit bad because of that.

My objections to crossfit( yes I have some ) is based on what I have read here and they are: 1. overly expensive, 2. kipping pullups. 3. some CF`er are supposedly doing high rep OL lifting with bad form( ouch ). 4. It doesnt seem to be the fastest road to become big and strong and since thats my goal I believe conventional strenght training are better for me. Then again if people want to pay alot of cash to be a CF gym member, do kipping pullups, do high rep OL lifting with bad form, Then I have no problem with that.

Okay this became rant, but hopefully there is a point in there LOL.

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I really dont know where the idea that Crossfit invented Meta conditioning and circut training came from. I have never seen that posted by glassman or HQ. If some nerd posted it online then thats a different story.

Benefits and overall testing for a “sport” are 2 different things. Its very similar to testing for football. (Sprint a 40, max bench at 225 and so on) except this “test” has been drawn out longer, in a more ridiculous fashion and held over 3 days. But I mean come on, curling is an oly sport. Throwing a ball is an oly sport. Throwing a stick is an oly sport. Long distance running is a profession and oly sport. Tons of people are injured doing shit everyday ie fucking, picking things up, riding a bike, walking, driving. If we slowed down the process or viewed it on video we could say “well that asian chick was driving with bad form and thats dangerous and exactly why she crashed into a wall” Bad form in lifting takes place all over the country. How many people have seen multiple teens and others fuck up the simple act of curling a dumbell or barbell???

It really is a damn shame that some people had their “fitness life” saved by CF and now “preach” about it trying to convert everyone who will or will not listen. I own a box and even that is highly annoying. But there are tons of Pwrlifters I have met who think that if you are not plifting your weak and retarded. Ive met vegans who think im going to hell because of eating meat. Scientologists you think i have too many theatens and so on. Its a ridiculous arguement.