Big Actors Who Can Act

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[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Bungalow wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Spartiates wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Jamie Fox, Will Smith, etc, got big for their roles, in my mind I don’t even consider them. If that were the case we’d be talking about Jackman as Wolverine, and that Lautner kid in New Moon.

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Why all the hate on this site for Jackman?

How can you compare him to the Lautner kid? Jackman easily got as big as Smith, or any of the other “regular” actors in this thread… I think bigger, I tried some quick net research, and got 220 pounds for Wolverine, not HUGE, but I bet that’s 60 pounds on the twilight kid.

Is it the Wolverine thing? You all thought that a character who in the comic books was like 5’6" should have been played by a 6’6" tall monster, and he was just disappointing? Or is it just a reaction to all the hype, because he looked so “big” compared normal societal standards that every on this board considers puny?

He’s no Arnold, but out of the pool of actors available, he’s one of the larger ones, and can act.

Can anyone explain the hate to me?[/quote]

Hate? I don’t hate the guy…but I also don’t like the fact that fucking SUPER HEROES that used to be drawn like NPC super heavy weights are now played by people who make me look like the super hero. Just once I would like to see one of these movies and not feel like I could bench press the whole cast and crew.

Wolverine is FUCKING SWOLE in the comics and nearly every cartoon series. Why is expecting actors to match up on screen now a bad thing?[/quote]

That’s because everyone in the comics are huge. Even the women. but proportionally speaking they are equal. Likewise, everyone in the movie is relatively proportional. You can’t have one gigantic dude by himself, it wouldn’t make sense.
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What? Everyone in the comics ISN’T huge. Lois Lane is NOT huge. Wonder Woman is a freaking Amazon so yes, she is built like a fitness model.

The SUPER HEROES are huge…like they should be.

Therefore, why pick the skinny guy to play Superman when the actor they chose couldn’t act very well in the first place? I mean, it isn’t like we got some award winning performance out of the guy. Hell, most people couldn’t even tell you the man’s real name.

Good casting? Michael Clarke Duncan as King Pin. The man bulked up to a super heavy 320+lbs just to play that role…and he actually carried the weight well.

Why is it so much to ask to ex[ect the actors to actually LOOK more the part?

If Christian Bale can do it, why the hell can’t the rest of these fuckers?

Somehow, the LOOK was so freaking important for movies like 300…but we let Spiderman turn emo?[/quote]

Just went over to wikipedia to check out what they have on Duncan… The guy was born in 1957! Jesus! He went up to ~320 at that age! He’s 6’5 too… One gifted fucker, shame he never competed… Wonder what weights he was putting up at his best.

No wonder he’s getting smaller now, though… At 52-53 y.o., I’d take it down a notch, too lol

I had no idea man, I thought he was 35-40 or so… Wow.

What excuse do the other “big” actors have again?

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That is truly impressive. If this guy is in his mid to late 50’s, NO ONE has much of an excuse. That explains why he dropped weight back to around 250 though. I can see 300+lbs being a hassle at nearly 60…but I thought everyone was supposed to die before the age of 30 if they got that big?

…but then, Oliva, Schwarzenegger, and Zane are still kicking…so someone lied to me.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

Just once, i would like to see someone my size or bigger just play “regular guy who isn’t a criminal, a villain, or going insane”.[/quote]

You got a ton of those movies in the 80s and 90s.

I’d also have to disagree with the disappointment in Toby Maguire as Spiderman - Spiderman was never big in the comics.

Other than that, I agree the super heroes should be bigger but I imagine the movie producers must walk a fine line between guys who can act, star power and physiques. It’s probably not as easy as everyone here is making it out to be (just cast bigger actors, duh!).

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

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Just once, i would like to see someone my size or bigger just play ‘regular guy who isn’t a criminal, a villain, or going insane’.[/quote]

Not a great picture and I couldn’t find anymore of this guy, but here’s a movie off the top of my head. Harold and Kumar 2 when they pull up to the basketball game. This guy is huge and I think they said he was an orthodontist.

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I think it was already mentioned, but Terry Crews is one funny ass guy. Maybe he’s not the best “actor” but he makes me laugh. “Cheeseburger Eddie” haha

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

Just once, i would like to see someone my size or bigger just play “regular guy who isn’t a criminal, a villain, or going insane”.[/quote]

You got a ton of those movies in the 80s and 90s.

I’d also have to disagree with the disappointment in Toby Maguire as Spiderman - Spiderman was never big in the comics.

Other than that, I agree the super heroes should be bigger but I imagine the movie producers must walk a fine line between guys who can act, star power and physiques. It’s probably not as easy as everyone here is making it out to be (just cast bigger actors, duh!).[/quote]

I agree, spiderman doesn’t need to be HUGE, but he should look more like a gymnast, not simply some skinny guy in a suit. He still didn’t measure up physically.

It is like they were literally running from muscle mass until 300.

I know it isn’t easy, but unless the actor has less than 6 months to prepare, there should be way more effort to build some size on most of these characters.

Superman is one of the biggest. Flash doesn’t need to be huge. Green lantern should probably look more like a soldier or a cop so again, he doesn’t need to be HUGE, but Batman does. Superman definitely does.

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

You got a ton of those movies in the 80s and 90s. [/quote]

Also…no, we didn’t. Most big guys in movies in the 80’s were either the action hero, the villain or “thug 1”. Not portraying these guys as ‘AVERAGE EVERYDAY PEOPLE’ is what we are discussing. That is what keeps really big guys from simply being cast as the “new doctor on House” or “The nice ambulance driver who isn’t killing people”. Big muscles are still seen as an “abnormality”. Name one single role in the 80’s or 90’s where some guy my size played a role that had NOTHING to do with his muscles at all.

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[quote]BobCat77 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
I’m surprised no one mentioned Vin Diesel yet.

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Because its a thread about big guys who CAN act[/quote]

Atta Boy BobCat, nice

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Well, with Arnold in his last few movies (other than T3) they just kind of forget to mention why he has an accent, or that he’s got muscles. It was just a given by then with him!

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[quote]Paste42 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

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Just once, i would like to see someone my size or bigger just play ‘regular guy who isn’t a criminal, a villain, or going insane’.[/quote]

Not a great picture and I couldn’t find anymore of this guy, but here’s a movie off the top of my head. Harold and Kumar 2 when they pull up to the basketball game. This guy is huge and I think they said he was an orthodontist.

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That would have been a good point but the point of making his character an orthodontist was to make a joke, because they played the entire scene out as if he were a typical “thug” playing basketball on the street looking for some “grape soda” and “Koolaid”.

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[quote]ashylarryku wrote:

[quote]Paste42 wrote:

[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]Cephalic_Carnage wrote:

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Just once, i would like to see someone my size or bigger just play ‘regular guy who isn’t a criminal, a villain, or going insane’.[/quote]

Not a great picture and I couldn’t find anymore of this guy, but here’s a movie off the top of my head. Harold and Kumar 2 when they pull up to the basketball game. This guy is huge and I think they said he was an orthodontist.

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That would have been a good point but the point of making his character an orthodontist was to make a joke, because they played the entire scene out as if he were a typical “thug” playing basketball on the street looking for some “grape soda” and “Koolaid”.[/quote]

Dude the whole movie was a stereotypical joke. X asked for an example of someone huge not portrayed as a muscle head. You’re looking too much into it.

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Gerard Butler. He might not have been fucking enormous in 300, but he’s a pretty tall dude as well.

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[quote]Spartiates wrote:

[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

Jamie Fox, Will Smith, etc, got big for their roles, in my mind I don’t even consider them. If that were the case we’d be talking about Jackman as Wolverine, and that Lautner kid in New Moon.

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Why all the hate on this site for Jackman?

How can you compare him to the Lautner kid? Jackman easily got as big as Smith, or any of the other “regular” actors in this thread… I think bigger, I tried some quick net research, and got 220 pounds for Wolverine, not HUGE, but I bet that’s 60 pounds on the twilight kid.

Is it the Wolverine thing? You all thought that a character who in the comic books was like 5’6" should have been played by a 6’6" tall monster, and he was just disappointing? Or is it just a reaction to all the hype, because he looked so “big” compared normal societal standards that every on this board considers puny?

He’s no Arnold, but out of the pool of actors available, he’s one of the larger ones, and can act.

Can anyone explain the hate to me?[/quote]

I don’t think the whole site hates him, I think he played a pretty good wolverine. But wolverine would be a hard for any character to satisfy everybody, there’s too many different visions of wolverine even with his attitude. He’s that athletic loner that does what he wants to do, some people are going to think he should be hercules huge others Safety-athletic build.

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[quote]Paste42 wrote:

Dude the whole movie was a stereotypical joke. X asked for an example of someone huge not portrayed as a muscle head. You’re looking too much into it.[/quote]

I think you missed X’s point entirely. The whole joke in Harold and Kumar revolved around that guys size. So no, it’s actually not an example of a big guy who’s size has nothing to do with the role.

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[quote]Professor X wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

You got a ton of those movies in the 80s and 90s. [/quote]

Also…no, we didn’t. Most big guys in movies in the 80’s were either the action hero, the villain or “thug 1”. Not portraying these guys as ‘AVERAGE EVERYDAY PEOPLE’ is what we are discussing. That is what keeps really big guys from simply being cast as the “new doctor on House” or “The nice ambulance driver who isn’t killing people”. Big muscles are still seen as an “abnormality”. Name one single role in the 80’s or 90’s where some guy my size played a role that had NOTHING to do with his muscles at all.[/quote]

Jingle All the Way?

Btw, that isn’t originally what you wrote. If that’s what you meant than I misunderstood.

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Jon Pall Sigmarsson acted in some movie, can’t remember which one though.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Paste42 wrote:

Dude the whole movie was a stereotypical joke. X asked for an example of someone huge not portrayed as a muscle head. You’re looking too much into it.[/quote]

I think you missed X’s point entirely. The whole joke in Harold and Kumar revolved around that guys size. So no, it’s actually not an example of a big guy who’s size has nothing to do with the role.[/quote]

Any role that is filled with a huge guy will have to be based on the guy’s size. It’s like if bodybuilders were walking around in every film and no one ever mentions it, how retarded would that be? You know people look at huge guys and think “Holy shit, that guy is huge!”

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[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Paste42 wrote:

Dude the whole movie was a stereotypical joke. X asked for an example of someone huge not portrayed as a muscle head. You’re looking too much into it.[/quote]

I think you missed X’s point entirely. The whole joke in Harold and Kumar revolved around that guys size. So no, it’s actually not an example of a big guy who’s size has nothing to do with the role.[/quote]

Any role that is filled with a huge guy will have to be based on the guy’s size. It’s like if bodybuilders were walking around in every film and no one ever mentions it, how retarded would that be? You know people look at huge guys and think “Holy shit, that guy is huge!”[/quote]

I agree with you on that. I just disagreed with Paste’s logic in the context of this discussion.

I think putting someone bodybuilder big in a role that has nothing to do with his size is just odd. It puts unnecessary attention on him and doesn’t really add to the story. It’s kind of like when you’re watching a bad movie and they add these weird extra lines in that doesn’t further the plot or foreshadow anything. You think “Whats was all that about?”. It just makes it feel off. The people who make these movies probably feel the same way about casting.

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The guy who plays Crixus on Spartacus had some decent size at the beginning of the season, but, like all the actors, he seems to be losing mass fast as the show goes on. The guy who plays Doctore is not big, but he is awesomely lean and has badass definition in his delts.

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[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]LankyMofo wrote:

[quote]sam_sneed wrote:

[quote]Paste42 wrote:

Dude the whole movie was a stereotypical joke. X asked for an example of someone huge not portrayed as a muscle head. You’re looking too much into it.[/quote]

I think you missed X’s point entirely. The whole joke in Harold and Kumar revolved around that guys size. So no, it’s actually not an example of a big guy who’s size has nothing to do with the role.[/quote]

Any role that is filled with a huge guy will have to be based on the guy’s size. It’s like if bodybuilders were walking around in every film and no one ever mentions it, how retarded would that be? You know people look at huge guys and think “Holy shit, that guy is huge!”[/quote]

I agree with you on that. I just disagreed with Paste’s logic in the context of this discussion.

I think putting someone bodybuilder big in a role that has nothing to do with his size is just odd. It puts unnecessary attention on him and doesn’t really add to the story. It’s kind of like when you’re watching a bad movie and they add these weird extra lines in that doesn’t further the plot or foreshadow anything. You think “Whats was all that about?”. It just makes it feel off. The people who make these movies probably feel the same way about casting.
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How weird would it have been if Matthew Perry’s character in The Whole Nine Yards was played by Jay Cutler?

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[quote]BradTGIF wrote:

[quote]BobCat77 wrote:

[quote]skaz05 wrote:
I’m surprised no one mentioned Vin Diesel yet.

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Because its a thread about big guys who CAN act[/quote]

A man apart
Saving Private Ryan
Riddick movies
Knockaround guys

hell even in xXx he wasn’t bad, he was great in all of those movies, at the very least better than average.