Biden 2021 - A Mediocre Middle Ground

That’s the second time @Mufasa has straight-up assumed I’m racist scum. The first time was when he assumed I’d be offended by a kid wearing an NWA hat.

I don’t have to sit here and put up with that shit. Make your case or fuck off.

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I don’t really want to speak for him but I didn’t read his post the way you do. I read it as they know what they are doing and you know what they are doing. Not that you’re racist scum.

We’ve had racist scum on here. You don’t fit that at all.

More vague nonsense.

I don’t have a problem with racists voting Republican. I have a problem with racists driving Republican policy, but I don’t see any evidence of that. I’ve asked for evidence of that, and all you or anyone does is repeat the broad narratives you’re convinced are true.

That’s a fact.

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I don’t believe you asked me this so not sure how I could or couldn’t be vague.

Republicans don’t have a policy to drive and haven’t for a while. They had a candidate who ran on nonsense ideas that were impossible. Then they pretty much did what he wanted. I’m not sure what Republican policy is right now? Maybe repeal Obamacare? I dunno that was said a million times. Infrastructure week? Maybe that was term 2.

It would be hard for me to name someone current as a driver because I don’t think they have a car. But when you have Bannon and Stephen Miller in high positions maybe white supremacists aren’t solely driving everything but all the white supremacists are fans of the people you’re picking. Which ain’t good.

I’ve asked similar things in similar forms before. Regardless, you still can’t provide an actual example to back up this narrative you believe to be true.

C’mon. Can you at least come up with one concrete example of racism manifesting in Republican policy or law? I don’t care if it is in some backwoods township or whatever county the Klan is strongest in these days. What actions of the Republican party at any level do you find to be the most racist?

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Agreed. I also have issues with states and feds working to makes it easier for non citizens to vote.

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Dude I’ve been pointing one out for numerous posts now. The Republican Party is pushing to get rid of early voting on Sundays because black people are much more likely to vote then.

You do remember a recent Muslim ban right? That wasn’t that long ago to not remember easily.

I don’t think they are doing racist things to be racist or to promote those ideas directly. They are doing things to help then win, which includes limiting democracy in legal ways. I think that is what people are getting at.

Why not just form a winning platform which I think they can do?

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Historical apathy is rampant.

Democrats are same as they ever were. The only change is their tactics. But the motive remains the same.

Republicans just lost there balls over time.

Sorry, I must have missed those posts. Were they in this thread? Can you explain the racist connection to me like I’m a child?

How was what you call the Muslim ban racist? Please explain in clear terms, easily understood by a child or simpleton.

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All good. Yeah they are up there somewhere. Unless I got my threads messed up but don’t think so.

Blacks are more likely to vote on Sundays. Republicans are attempting to ban early voting on Sundays. This is specifically being done to limit black turnout. It’s got nothing to do with anything else.

Honestly if you don’t see it already I don’t think any discussion will get us there. But Trump added countries to his initial ban. Which ones? The ones he called shithole countries like Nigeria who he said wouldn’t go back to their huts.

If we had banned just white Christian countries wouldn’t you call that racist? I dunno maybe we just see things different on what is and what isn’t.

What are the things? Can anyone explain what the things actually are down to a specific law or policy with a link to back it up?

I’m seriously considering registering as a Republican to help sort that question out.

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Thank you for the examples that inform your belief in Republican racism. Where is this taking place at?

I think this is a little dismissive. I don’t really consider Democrats the party of slavery or Republicans the party of unions right now. Viewing the two parties on events that happened before any of us were alive just doesn’t do much to advance any current discussion of their policies.

Georgia is the one I know about. FWIW I don’t think all Republicans are racist and no Dems are. I think you know me better than that. You can’t be parties with millions of people and not have idiots.

But that’s a clearly racist policy specifically aimed at a group of people more likely to vote Democrat. If no black people voted on Sundays that wouldn’t happen. It’s voter suppression nothing more nothing less.

Is it the entire state?

What’s the specific action you find to be racist? Please, link the law, statement, policy, etc. Sorry to be a pest, but I’m looking for some clarity here after spending dozens of posts being accused of outright racism or complicity in racism. I’m sure you can understand why one might not appreciate such accusations or implications, especially without any clear explanation of what is racist and why.

Again, I’m looking for something specific, not a broad statement or narrative that’s open to wide interpretation.

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Yes

Well you shouldn’t, because that would be historically inaccurate.

I know what you’re getting at and I agree to an extent. But the party history’s need to be understood because they help us understand how and why they are what they are. Their history’s have molded their current state.

They have lost court cases in which Democrats showed they were using race to gerrymander districts for their advantage. Putting what would normally would be two or three districtsof black people in one district.

I don’t think they did this to be racist, but attempting to take away voting power from black people is a racist thing to do. Again, it is to win, not to be racist.

I think you should run. I think you have good ideas. I specifically like some of your l more ibertarian and financial stances.

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I believe it’s part of a 48 page bill. It’s racist because black people vote a lot on Sundays and Sundays happen to be purposefully no longer an option.

I would think Christians would be mad about a law that targets Christians who typically vote after church on Sundays. But if they aren’t voting Trump can they really be Christians?

I’m not sure how the policy isn’t racist. It’s aimed at preventing black people from voting in a way they often do. Yes it’s about winning but it’s about deliberately changing something to effect black voters.

Sure, and similar schemes take place at every level of government that draws those kind of lines.

You said it yourself. Racism as a motivating factor explains a lot less than just playing the game to win. If there was a less arbitrary way of making things like congressional districts I’d be all ears, but it is deeply harmful and unproductive to attribute racist motivations just because a flimsy case can be made that will satisfy a freshman at Oberlin.

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